Inside frametube corrosion protection

"Duncan Cooper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just finished building a new bike. Now that the paint's
cured it's time to address coating the inside of the
frametubes to prevent rust (steel frame).

I know about JP Weigels Framesaver (spelling ?), but I
suspect there are other ways to do the job. Linseed
Oil ? Other methods ? Do I really want to put
something petroleum down the seat tube (dont want the
seatpost to slip) ?

Before I do something I regret, I seek the "wisdom of the
hive". Someone has crossed this bridge before.

Thanks

Coop (freezing in Cleveland)

There are other ways of accomplishing what you want, but
IMO FrameSaver is the easiest and best way to do it.
Serotta, among others, use it at their factory on all their
steel frames.

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"Duncan Cooper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Just finished building a new bike. Now that the paint's
cured it's time to address coating the inside of the
frametubes to prevent rust (steel frame).

I know about JP Weigels Framesaver (spelling ?), but I
suspect there are other ways to do the job. Linseed Oil
? Other methods ? Do I really want to put something
petroleum down the seat tube (dont want the seatpost to
slip) ?

Before I do something I regret, I seek the "wisdom of
the hive". Someone has crossed this bridge before.

Thanks

Coop (freezing in Cleveland)

There are other ways of accomplishing what you want, but
IMO FrameSaver is the easiest and best way to do it.
Serotta, among others, use it at their factory on all
their steel frames.

I've used linseed oil in the past but when you combine the
ease of use with Framesavers reasonable price it is the way
to go... I don't remember if they tell you to use under WELL
ventilated conditions but I would recomend it...

On 11 Mar 2004 07:38:10 -0800 [email hidden] (Duncan Cooper)

Quoted message said:

Just finished building a new bike. Now that the paint's
cured it's time to address coating the inside of the
frametubes to prevent rust (steel frame).

I know about JP Weigels Framesaver (spelling ?), but I
suspect there are other ways to do the job. Linseed Oil ?
Other methods ? Do I really want to put something petroleum
down the seat tube (dont want the seatpost to slip) ?

Framesaver is probably fine. I like LPS-3.

You DEFINITELY DO want to put something petroleum down your
seat tube. Slipping is never a problem if the seat post is
the right size and the seat clamp region is round. OTOH, dry
seat tubes often rust onto seat posts and create BIG
problems when they eventually seize up.

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Jim Adney [email hidden] Madison, WI 53711 USA
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Quoted message said:

Just finished building a new bike. Now that the paint's
cured it's time to address coating the inside of the
frametubes to prevent rust (steel frame).

I know about JP Weigels Framesaver (spelling ?), but I
suspect there are other ways to do the job.

Since you know about the best product why would you want to
use anything else? And you must use grease or-better-anti-seize-
for the ST/seat post or it will seize. The grease or anti-
sieze will not cause a correctly fitting ST/SP to slip.
Phil Brown

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mix anti seize with lnseed oil for the seat tube.

linseed alone for a used bike or clean and apply white rusto
on a hot day to drive out h20 of, and i don't know, the
framsaver is a latex coating then its probably inferior to
the linseed.

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mix anti seize with lnseed oil for the seat tube.

linseed alone for a used bike or clean and apply white rusto
on a hot day to drive out h20 of, and i don't know, the
framsaver is a latex coating then its probably inferior to
the linseed.

White lithium grease comes in spray cans at auto stores and
the auto section of Wal-Mart. About $1.79 a can. Probably
very close to where they keep the WD-40 type products. When
I built up my new steel bike 6 years ago I sprayed the
inside of all the tubes through the vent holes. And on the
subsequent complete overhauls and stripping of all
components off the frame, I have sometimes remembered to
spray some more grease inside the frame tubes. Same can I
bought 6 years ago. And if for some reason I need to spray
grease onto something or into an area to stop a squeak, I
have a can of grease handy. Or if I run out of Pennzoil
wheel bearing grease in the middle of repacking my hub
bearings, I have plenty of reserve grease in the can. Can't
do that with the pricey Frame Saver product. Of course I
could just go to Wal-Mart and buy a tub of Pennzoil wheel
bearing grease for $1.99 24 hours a day.

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Quoted message said:

Just finished building a new bike. Now that the paint's
cured it's time to address coating the inside of the
frametubes to prevent rust (steel frame).

I know about JP Weigels Framesaver (spelling ?), but I
suspect there are other ways to do the job. Linseed
Oil ? Other methods ? Do I really want to put
something petroleum down the seat tube (dont want the
seatpost to slip) ?

Before I do something I regret, I seek the "wisdom of the
hive". Someone has crossed this bridge before.

Thanks

Coop (freezing in Cleveland)

Duncan Cooper said:

Just finished building a new bike. Now that the paint's
cured it's time to address coating the inside of the frame
tubes to prevent rust (steel frame).

You don't need anything inside the frame from my experience.
The only frames that I saw rust out were those where a
painter left a newspaper or rag in the seat tube. These get
moist and can cause tube failure. I've ridden a few bicycles
over 100,000's of miles in all kinds of weather here and in
Europe with no rust problems. My frame builders, Johnson and
Ritchey can tell you the same. They don't coat the insides
of their steel frames with exotic preparations.

Quoted message said:

I know about JP Weigle Framesaver, but I suspect there are
other ways to do the job. Linseed Oil ? Other methods ? Do
I really want to put something petroleum down the seat
tube (don't want the seatpost to slip) ?

Putting grease on the seat post and frame tube is a good
idea, rather than one to be avoided. This prevents water
from intruding between aluminum and steel, a high corrosion
pair if there is one.

Quoted message said:

Before I do something I regret, I seek the "wisdom of the
hive". Someone has crossed this bridge before.

Just skip the effort that will not improve your frame's
durability.

Jobst Brandt [email hidden]

jdcooper<< I know about JP Weigels Framesaver (spelling
?), but I suspect there are other ways to do the job.
Linseed Oil ? Other methods ? Do I really want to put
something petroleum down the seat tube (dont want the
seatpost to slip) ?

Framesaver works well, use that and remember you grease the
seattube for the seatpost..most greases are just oil and
soap(petroleum).

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the weigel: i tried rusto rustsolver. a temp solution.

the hot dea was to switch from cirtic acid carriers for the
latex to phosphoric acid carriers? Phos acids change the
FEO to PhosFEO. problem. acids are solutions in WATER the
stuff plus O2 that causes FEO and heartburn or worse. so,
how to get rid of the H2O after the phos changes the FEO to
PhosFEO? why it goes thru the paint film's holes as the
film cures.

Imagine.Amazing.

all the H20 leaves the steel surface after
transmogrification leaving no WATER under the now blackend
pits and as the last water molecule leaves THE FILM'S HOLES
SLAM SHUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow. hey, give me a
break. HOLY STP Batman, where's my eggnog?

try the heatgun rawbin.ead the specs. consult your palm
reader check the entrails

a very difficult proposition, an imperfect technology.

A little petroleum won't make the seatpost slip. I always
smear waterproof grease on my seat post as an antisieze and
have never had any slipage problems.

"May you have the wind at your back. And a really low gear
for the hills!"

Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

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"Chris Zacho "The Wheelman"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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How exactly do you use framesaver? I can understand
easy to reach places, like the seat and head tubes, but
how do you get the insides of the top and down tubes?
or the stays?

You use that tiny tube that comes with it and sticks into
the spray nozzle like with WD-40. Obviously the bike has to
be disassembled at key points (BB for chain stays, etc.).

JF