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  1. Sorry about the long post but it was quite a weekend.

    This weekend my wife and I tried to go to Pt. Reyes area via
    CA 37 as indicated on the Krebs Cycling map
    (krebscycleproducts.comT1.html). Not knowing the
    town of Vallejo AT ALL we were very lost. According to the
    map we are supposed to ride over the "Freeway" looking
    bridge but we couldnt find any way to get on the bridge. The
    onramp we found explicitly stated "Bicycles prohibited" and
    there was no way we were brave enough to get on a freeway?

    The map also showed a way to get across the water over Mare
    Island so we tried that. We were told by a very grumpy
    official looking person that the island was contaminated, we
    could go over at "our own risk" but that the "Northgate" was
    closed and we couldnt get through. The official volunteered
    that after spending some time on the island she vomited the
    color of the yellow paint on the ground and that was enough
    to deter us.

    We stopped at the Ferry building to see if there was a way
    across the water there but it was already getting late and
    it was looking like our ill planned trip was going nowhere.
    We talked to several people in the Ferry building (not
    cyclists) that thought riding a bike on CA 37 was insane and
    probably illegal. Dejectedly we biked all the way back home
    (a 53 mile trip for "nothing"😉, showered and got in the car,
    bikes in tow, to drive the route.

    Going west on CA 37 we went over the scary bridge and took
    the Mare Island exit. Thinking the grumpy official meant
    "cars" coudnt get through, we wanted to take a look. The
    gates were obviously meant to keep people out as well and
    unless we either threw the bikes over the gate and crawled
    on our bellies under the gate we didnt see anyway for us
    to get through either. The signs warning about
    contamination were also quite scary. Continuing along 37
    we were debating whether we could bike the route. We ended
    up thinking that if we could have found a way to get on,
    we would have done it.

    So we drove on to our destination, had a great dinner at the
    Olema Inn. Next morning we biked a loop climbing Marshall
    then to Novato then to Lucas Valley Rd and back to Olema. We
    drove home via 101, to CA37. The two very narrow bridges on
    the west side of Sears point were the only places we thought
    we would absolutely not ride (maybe walk the bikes) but the
    rest seemed doable although unpleasant (due to road
    conditions and lots of very fast traffic). When we got back
    to the bridge starting across to Vallejo were amazed to find
    two things:

    1) There was a "prohibited" sign right before the bridge but
    it was missing a line as if the "bicycles" part had been
    erased!?!?!

    2) something hanging off the side of the bridge almost like
    a separate walkway. This was only visible from the
    eastbound side of 37 and it looked like possibly this was
    the way across the "bicycles prohibited" bridge?
    Consulting the map again it looked as if the way onto
    that little passway from the Vallejo side might be
    Wilson? but we couldnt figure out how you would get to
    the west bound side of 37 once you got across? Maybe you
    get dumped out at Mare Island and have to take the onramp
    on the west bound side (where we did NOT see a "bicycles
    prohibited" sign)?

    Can anyone fill me in on what this is all about and if CA 37
    is really ridable on a bicycle? How does one get on the
    bridge from the Vallejo side and how does one get going west
    bound on the other side of the bridge. How does a bicycle
    navigate the narrow bridges on the west side of Sears Point?
    How does one get on the east bound side in Novato and is CA
    37 (both directions) worth riding or is it a near death
    experience?

    k

  2. It has been a number of years since I've ridden out of
    Vallejo, but I recall that the route from the Vallejo Ferry
    Terminal is north along the river front onto Wilson Ave.,
    which passes under the CA37 bridge before turning northeast
    and then back upon itself at the entrance to CA37 just prior
    to the ramp up onto the bridge. The shoulder was adequately
    wide, and I don't recall seeing any prohibitions against
    bicycles on this bridge, although I do recall that the
    railing at the edge seemed uncomfortably low (from the seat
    of an upright bike) for a bridge that climbs about 100 feet
    above the water.

    Most of CA37 between Vallejo and Novato has a nice wide
    shoulder. The two bridges over Petaluma River and Sonoma
    Creek are a bit scary when traffic is heavy. The best way to
    ride them is as quickly as possible, riding in the center of
    the right-hand lane.

    A nice multi-modal loop ride could be ridden around San
    Pablo Bay, crossing the new span of the Carquinez Bridge,
    CA37, and the Golden Gate Bridge, and using BART to get from
    SF to one of the stations nearest Crockett such as El
    Cerrito Del Norte.

    --
    Bill Bushnell

  3. Personally, I do not like Hwy 37 ... even in a car. You did not say where
    you started, just that it must have been 25 miles or so from Vallejo. If it
    were me I would opt for one of several alternatives:

    1) Ride north from Vallejo toward Napa, then go west on Hwy
    121, 116, and Pt Reyes-Petaluma Rd.

    2) Take the ferry to SF and then head around, over the GG
    bridge, and make my way to Pt Reyes.

    3) Head south, get to Baypointe BART, take BART to SF and
    then make my way over the GG bridge and up to Pt Reyes.

    Some roads suck, mostly because they are not designed
    for bikes and the drivers are bad enough ... and 37 is
    that way IMO.

    - rick

  4. I concur. Hiway 37 has a reputation of being one of the
    deadliest hiways around the Bay Area, and that is inside 2+
    tons of steel. I agree with the other workarounds mentioned
    and might add another. The Golden Gate Transit (bus system)
    runs Route 40 across the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge which
    gets you to downtown San Rafael's Transit Hub (or
    Transportation Center). I believe it starts in Richmond at
    one of the BART stations there. From San Rafael, you are at
    4th or 3rd St., it is a straight shot. Get a map. You want
    to go W. on 2nd or 3rd or 4th (I can't remember, I think
    they all merge at a point called Red Hill - near a shopping
    center by the same name). Once there you'll get (easily) to
    Sir Francis Drake Blvd which is there. It goes all the way
    across Marin Co. to Pt. Reyes! Kevin

  5. In article <7fH7c.61452$po.555226@attbi_s52>,

    Karstens Rage said:

    The official volunteered that after spending some time on
    the island she vomited the color of the yellow paint on
    the ground and that was enough to deter us.

    And you were gullible enough to believe that.

    --
    Mike DeMicco <[email hidden]> (Remove the
    REMOVE_THIS from my email address to reply.)

  6. In article <[email hidden]-
    berlin.de>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <7fH7c.61452$po.555226@attbi_s52>,

    Karstens Rage said:

    The official volunteered that after spending some time
    on the island she vomited the color of the yellow paint
    on the ground and that was enough to deter us.

    And you were gullible enough to believe that.

    It may well have been true, but not due to the
    contamination; she probably got a bad batch of sushi the
    night before.

    --
    Dave Kerber Fight spam: remove the ns_ from the return
    address before replying!

    REAL programmers write self-modifying code.

  7. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by David Kerber
    In article <[email hidden]-
    berlin.de>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <7fH7c.61452$po.555226@attbi_s52>,

    Karstens Rage said:

    The official volunteered that after spending some time
    on the island she vomited the color of the yellow paint
    on the ground and that was enough to deter us.

    And you were gullible enough to believe that.



    It may well have been true, but not due to the
    contamination; she probably got a bad batch of sushi the
    night before.

    --
    Dave Kerber Fight spam: remove the ns_ from the return
    address before replying!

    REAL programmers write self-modifying code.

    I actually LIVED on Mare Island when I was in the Navy and the ground contamination is bad enough that most developers wouldn't touch it but there's nothing there that would make you puke any color just by riding through... it's mostly gasoline and diesel from leaky old tanks and buried equipment from the days before there were environmental laws.

    Hwy 37 used to be a three-lane road from Vallejo to Sear's Point with the middle "suicide" lane being the passing lane and it alternated every couple miles so eastbound traffic could pass for one mile, then west bound traffic for the next mile - it was insanely dangerous and they got rid of it a few years ago. The ride over the 37 bridge is fine on the separated bike/pedestrian lane but it is tricky to get to. No way I would consider riding anywhere west of the bridge... it's just not do-able.

    K - you didn't miss anything. Drive to Marin and then ride, or start in Santa Rosa or someplace or ride from Vallejo to Calistoga through the Napa Valley.

  8. David Kerber <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]-
    berlin.de>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <7fH7c.61452$po.555226@attbi_s52>,

    Karstens Rage said:

    The official volunteered that after spending some time
    on the island she vomited the color of the yellow
    paint on the ground and that was enough to deter us.

    And you were gullible enough to believe that.

    It may well have been true, but not due to the
    contamination; she probably got a bad batch of sushi the
    night before.

    Good point. I wouldn't expect to find good sushi in Vallejo.

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