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  1. Stage 4 - June 10: Bédoin - Le Mont Ventoux ITT, 21.6 km
    Results
    1 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
    55.51.49 (23.202 km/h)
    2 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems
    0.35.26
    3 Oscar Sevilla (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
    1.03.09
    4 Juan Miguel Mercado (Spa) Quick.Step-Davitamon
    1.48.44
    5 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal presented by Berry Floor
    1.57.89
    6 Inigo Landaluze (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
    2.22.75
    7 José Gutierrez (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
    2.44.09
    8 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Rabobank
    3.21.18
    9 Michael Rasmussen (Den) Rabobank
    3.33.38
    10 Stéphane Goubert (Fra) Ag2R Prevoyance
    3.35.81

    ____________

    Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.

    /H

  2. Henrik said:

    Stage 4 - June 10: Bédoin - Le Mont Ventoux ITT, 21.6 km
    Results
    1 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
    55.51.49 (23.202 km/h)
    2 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems
    0.35.26
    3 Oscar Sevilla (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
    1.03.09
    4 Juan Miguel Mercado (Spa) Quick.Step-Davitamon
    1.48.44
    5 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal presented by Berry Floor
    1.57.89
    6 Inigo Landaluze (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
    2.22.75
    7 José Gutierrez (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
    2.44.09
    8 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Rabobank
    3.21.18
    9 Michael Rasmussen (Den) Rabobank
    3.33.38
    10 Stéphane Goubert (Fra) Ag2R Prevoyance
    3.35.81

    ____________

    Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.

    /H

    Going out on a limb there? Personally, I think it's still up in the air.

    --
    Bob in CT
    Remove ".x" to reply

  3. <<snip>>

    Quoted message said:

    Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.

    /H

    Lance is just sandbagging.
    Jeff

  4. "J Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    <<snip>>

    Quoted message said:

    Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.

    /H

    Lance is just sandbagging.
    Jeff

    Armstrong's coach Chris Carmichael recently called Lance "the master of
    psychological warfare" and his less than all-out performance on the Ventoux
    , just measured out enough to test himself but not go "au bloc"

    Hate to say this, but No. # 6 seems to be the jinx.
    -tom

  5. "Tom Nakashima" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "J Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    <<snip>>

    Quoted message said:

    Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.

    /H

    Lance is just sandbagging.
    Jeff

    Armstrong's coach Chris Carmichael recently called Lance "the master of
    psychological warfare" and his less than all-out performance on the


    Ventoux

    Quoted message said:

    , just measured out enough to test himself but not go "au bloc"

    Hate to say this, but No. # 6 seems to be the jinx.
    -tom

    Way too early to tell - after all, anything can happen in le Tour.

    Let's all just take a deep breath and see how it goes...
    Jeff

  6. "Tom Nakashima" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "J Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    <<snip>>

    Quoted message said:

    Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.

    /H

    Lance is just sandbagging.
    Jeff

    Armstrong's coach Chris Carmichael recently called Lance "the master of
    psychological warfare" and his less than all-out performance on the


    Ventoux

    Quoted message said:

    , just measured out enough to test himself but not go "au bloc"

    Hate to say this, but No. # 6 seems to be the jinx.

    Even if Armstrong isn't anymore the climber he used to be, he still doesnt
    have to worry. There are hardly any mountains in the Tour. Nothing above the
    2000m. Even Cipollini can win ...

    Benjo Maso

  7. I think Lance is the biggest favorite winning the TdF.

    BUT.... The excuses groping of his fanboysx stands UGLY considering how
    they have been badmouthing Jan Ulrich.

    It is okay for LA to loose a minute to super TT specialist Oscar
    babyface Sevilla, yet Jan can not loose a minute to "non-TT" Rich in
    a flat TT?

    Yes... that was sarcasm... if LA's loss isn't saying anything, it is
    nothing that JU looses in a flat TT of an absolute worldspecialist.

    Nuff said fanboys

    --

  8. I think Lance is the biggest favorite winning the TdF.

    BUT.... The excuses groping of his fanboys stands UGLY considering how
    they have been badmouthing Jan Ulrich.

    It is okay for LA to loose a minute to super TT specialist Oscar
    babyface Sevilla, yet Jan can not loose a minute to "non-TT" Rich in
    a flat TT?

    Yes... that was sarcasm... if LA's loss isn't saying anything, it is
    nothing that JU looses in a flat TT of an absolute worldspecialist.

    Nuff said fanboys

    --

  9. No one mentions peaking? How fast do you want to be 6 weeks out from
    the most cirtical days of racing? Lance should still be training hard
    and testing his day-to-day recovery.

    -WG

  10. "warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    No one mentions peaking? How fast do you want to be 6 weeks out from
    the most cirtical days of racing? Lance should still be training hard
    and testing his day-to-day recovery.

    -WG

    As is Tyler who was > 1 min. faster.

  11. "Tuschinski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    It is okay for LA to loose a minute to super TT specialist Oscar
    babyface Sevilla, yet Jan can not loose a minute to "non-TT" Rich in
    a flat TT?

    Wasn't Rich a silver medalist in the Worlds TT ?

    -T

  12. "Tom Schulenburg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Tuschinski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    It is okay for LA to loose a minute to super TT specialist Oscar
    babyface Sevilla, yet Jan can not loose a minute to "non-TT" Rich in
    a flat TT?

    Wasn't Rich a silver medalist in the Worlds TT ?

    -T

    Yes. 2000 & 2002

    http://www.gerolsteiner.de/cycling-english/index.html

  13. In article <[email hidden]>, B.

    Lafferty said:

    "warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    No one mentions peaking? How fast do you want to be 6 weeks out from
    the most cirtical days of racing? Lance should still be training hard
    and testing his day-to-day recovery.

    -WG

    As is Tyler who was > 1 min. faster.

    Different guys will work on different aspects of their fitness leading
    up to a peak. They're not comparable to any great degree until
    everybody is together at the most important days of the most important
    race.

    -WG

  14. In article <[email hidden]>, warren

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, B.

    Lafferty said:

    "warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    No one mentions peaking? How fast do you want to be 6 weeks out from
    the most cirtical days of racing? Lance should still be training hard
    and testing his day-to-day recovery.

    -WG

    As is Tyler who was > 1 min. faster.

    Different guys will work on different aspects of their fitness leading
    up to a peak. They're not comparable to any great degree until
    everybody is together at the most important days of the most important
    race.

    -WG

    To add to my earlier post...

    Now, from someone (else) who knows, CC's recent comments about Lance
    being a bit coy about his current abilities are on the mark. Best to
    encourage a high amount of interest in the TOUR.

    -WG

  15. "benjo maso" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Armstrong's coach Chris Carmichael recently called Lance "the master of
    psychological warfare" and his less than all-out performance on the


    Ventoux

    Quoted message said:

    , just measured out enough to test himself but not go "au bloc"

    Hate to say this, but No. # 6 seems to be the jinx.

    Even if Armstrong isn't anymore the climber he used to be, he still doesnt
    have to worry. There are hardly any mountains in the Tour. Nothing above the
    2000m.

    I'm sure JU would love that.

  16. [email hidden] (Henrik) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Stage 4 - June 10: Bédoin - Le Mont Ventoux ITT, 21.6 km
    Results
    1 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
    55.51.49 (23.202 km/h)
    2 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems
    0.35.26
    3 Oscar Sevilla (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
    1.03.09
    4 Juan Miguel Mercado (Spa) Quick.Step-Davitamon
    1.48.44
    5 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal presented by Berry Floor
    1.57.89
    ____________

    Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.

    /H

    I'm afraid Iban will be over the top in the decisive last week of the tour.

  17. Tom Schulenburg said:

    "Tuschinski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:H75-
    [email hidden]:H75yc.102751$Ov2.102203@-
    fe26.usenetserver.com...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    It is okay for LA to loose a minute to super TT specialist Oscar
    babyface Sevilla, yet Jan can not loose a minute to "non-TT" Rich in a
    flat TT?


    Wasn't Rich a silver medalist in the Worlds TT ?
    -T

    That was my Sarcasm... LA looses from a NON TT specialist (agreed, it is
    mountainous, but it is still a TT), JU looses from a flat TT super-
    specialist.

    My point is that JU was shot down by some, yet LA can't do anything
    wrong by the same people.... it annoys me.

    --

  18. Tuschinski said:
    Tom Schulenburg said:

    "Tuschinski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:H75- >

    [email hidden]:H75yc.102751$Ov2.102203@-

    Quoted message said:

    fe26.usenetserver.com... > >> > > It is okay for LA to loose a


    minute to super TT specialist Oscar > > babyface Sevilla, yet Jan can
    not loose a minute to "non-TT" Rich in a > > flat TT? > > > Wasn't
    Rich a silver medalist in the Worlds TT ? > -T

    That was my Sarcasm... LA looses from a NON TT specialist (agreed, it
    is mountainous, but it is still a TT), JU looses from a flat TT super-
    specialist.

    My point is that JU was shot down by some, yet LA can't do anything
    wrong by the same people.... it annoys me.

    So you would have been less annoyed by folks comments if it had been TT
    specialist Millar who beat Armstrong up the Ventoux instead of Mayo?

  19. "warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    No one mentions peaking? How fast do you want to be 6 weeks out from
    the most cirtical days of racing? Lance should still be training hard
    and testing his day-to-day recovery.

    -WG

    But so is everyone else....
    I thought it was good strategy that LA didn't show his hand in the Dauphine
    Libere. It was noted in the L-Chronicles yesterday, that last year by
    winning the DL, it took too much out of him. This year LA wanted to get a
    good prep in and to see what the otheres have. So we know now Mayo has a
    pair of aces and Hamilton a pair of Kings. I think Ham should have held back
    a bit in the DL, as well as his team, their strong showing makes them a
    heavy contender in the Tour, Team Phonak looks pretty strong.
    -tom

  20. Tom Nakashima said:

    This year LA wanted to get a
    good prep in and to see what the otheres have. So we know now Mayo has a
    pair of aces and Hamilton a pair of Kings.

    Big deal. LA was misquoted. He isn't peaking for the TdF, he is
    'packing'. Two Colts trumps two aces. Wait for the great photo shot
    when Mayo and Hamilton are lined up and in line...

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

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