3am thoughts

sorry you are having a rough time. As to the cravings, I read an article
once that said cravings are the way our bodies tell us we are lacking
something, chocolate for example contains lots of magnesium and some other
mineral that escapes me at the moment. I found that I no longer craved
chocolate when I took a good mineral supplement for about three months, have
never craved it since. good luck, Lee
skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the nap

that

Quoted message said:

I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing the walls down. Naps aren't my friend. I wake
up cranky.

I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier choices this week and that

is

Quoted message said:

annoying me. First it was the french bread that I bought to have with french onion soup. I like
white bread a bit too much and always have. I started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to be
fair most of my

points

Quoted message said:

came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher on the points. Tuesday and Wednesday same
thing. I've noticed that the veggies have been lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the
desire to deal with it right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.

I've made some changes to the bread I use at lunchtime. I traded in the Atkins less points bread
for a more substantial wheat bread (difference 1 point). I think it tastes better. I've also been
having Trader Joe's yogurt at lunch and while it is good...I prefer the cottage cheese singles
with fruit.

TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it difficult to control the cravings. Anyone
know why?

Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.

Sorry things aren't going well right now Julie. I can relate. I had a difficult time over the last 5
months or so, then all of a sudden things changed. This week has been going great so far. I feel as
though I did a year ago when I first joined WW. I've been journalling, drinking my water, and
staying OP. Just do the best you can, sooner or later things will fall back into place. We're all
here for you if you need the support. Just post your little heart out!

Take care, Brenda

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the nap

that

Quoted message said:

I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing the walls down. Naps aren't my friend. I wake
up cranky.

I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier choices this week and that

is

Quoted message said:

annoying me. First it was the french bread that I bought to have with french onion soup. I like
white bread a bit too much and always have. I started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to be
fair most of my

points

Quoted message said:

came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher on the points. Tuesday and Wednesday same
thing. I've noticed that the veggies have been lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the
desire to deal with it right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.

I've made some changes to the bread I use at lunchtime. I traded in the Atkins less points bread
for a more substantial wheat bread (difference 1 point). I think it tastes better. I've also been
having Trader Joe's yogurt at lunch and while it is good...I prefer the cottage cheese singles
with fruit.

TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it difficult to control the cravings. Anyone
know why?

Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.

That's an interesting thought.

You don't happen to remember the article do you?

Julie

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

sorry you are having a rough time. As to the cravings, I read an article once that said cravings
are the way our bodies tell us we are lacking something, chocolate for example contains lots of
magnesium and some other mineral that escapes me at the moment. I found that I no longer craved
chocolate when I took a good mineral supplement for about three months,

have

Quoted message said:

never craved it since. good luck, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gC-dnZSryrFeZNvd3cwC-
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the nap

that

Quoted message said:

I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing the walls down. Naps aren't my friend. I wake
up cranky.

I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier choices this week and

that

Quoted message said:

is

Quoted message said:

annoying me. First it was the french bread that I bought to have with french onion soup. I like
white bread a bit too much and always have.

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to be fair most of my

points

Quoted message said:

came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher on the points. Tuesday and Wednesday same
thing. I've noticed that the veggies have

been

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the desire to deal with it right now. Hopefully
Thursday will be better.

I've made some changes to the bread I use at lunchtime. I traded in the Atkins less points bread
for a more substantial wheat bread (difference

1

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

point). I think it tastes better. I've also been having Trader Joe's yogurt at lunch and while
it is good...I prefer the cottage cheese

singles

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with fruit.

TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it difficult to

control

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the cravings. Anyone know why?

Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.

Thanks Brenda.

I've been journaling and drinking my water all week, so that has helped tremendously because I am
still aware of what I'm eating. I'm trying real hard to adjust my 'tude this week. If I'm reading my
scale I've still dropped some weight this week, but maybe all of 1/2 pound or so.

Julie

"Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Sorry things aren't going well right now Julie. I can relate. I had a difficult time over the last
5 months or so, then all of a sudden things changed. This week has been going great so far. I feel
as though I did a year ago when I first joined WW. I've been journalling, drinking my

water,

Quoted message said:

and staying OP. Just do the best you can, sooner or later things will

fall

Quoted message said:

back into place. We're all here for you if you need the support. Just

post

Quoted message said:

your little heart out!

Take care, Brenda

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the nap

that

Quoted message said:

I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing the walls down. Naps aren't my friend. I wake
up cranky.

I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier choices this week and

that

Quoted message said:

is

Quoted message said:

annoying me. First it was the french bread that I bought to have with french onion soup. I like
white bread a bit too much and always have.

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to be fair most of my

points

Quoted message said:

came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher on the points. Tuesday and Wednesday same
thing. I've noticed that the veggies have

been

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the desire to deal with it right now. Hopefully
Thursday will be better.

I've made some changes to the bread I use at lunchtime. I traded in the Atkins less points bread
for a more substantial wheat bread (difference

1

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

point). I think it tastes better. I've also been having Trader Joe's yogurt at lunch and while
it is good...I prefer the cottage cheese

singles

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with fruit.

TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it difficult to

control

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the cravings. Anyone know why?

Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.

No this was so long ago I am sure it wasn't on the net where I read it, so I
read it in a healtfood or nutritional magazine. You might try doing a
googol search for cravings and see what you get, this was at least twenty
years ago, Lee
skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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That's an interesting thought.

You don't happen to remember the article do you?

Julie

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

sorry you are having a rough time. As to the cravings, I read an

article

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

once that said cravings are the way our bodies tell us we are lacking something, chocolate for
example contains lots of magnesium and some

other

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

mineral that escapes me at the moment. I found that I no longer craved chocolate when I took a
good mineral supplement for about three months,

have

Quoted message said:

never craved it since. good luck, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gC-dnZSryrFeZNvd3cwC-
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the nap

that

Quoted message said:

I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing the walls down. Naps aren't my friend. I wake
up cranky.

I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier choices this week and

that

Quoted message said:

is

Quoted message said:

annoying me. First it was the french bread that I bought to have with french onion soup. I
like white bread a bit too much and always have.

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to be fair most of my

points

Quoted message said:

came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher on the points. Tuesday and Wednesday
same thing. I've noticed that the veggies have

been

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the desire to deal with

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.

I've made some changes to the bread I use at lunchtime. I traded in

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Atkins less points bread for a more substantial wheat bread

(difference

Quoted message said:

1

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

point). I think it tastes better. I've also been having Trader Joe's yogurt at lunch and while
it is good...I prefer the cottage cheese

singles

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with fruit.

TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it difficult to

control

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the cravings. Anyone know why?

Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.

Welcome to my world of the late nite hours (or early morning, depends on how you look at it). <grin>
Look on the bright side, during this time not one single person is demanding anything of you ...
this time is entirely for YOU!

Now this is just my thinking, but I would be willing to guess that the hard time this week could
very well be due to TOM. Wish I could give you a scientific reason as to why, but I have no clue.
When all else fails, blame it on the hormones. <grin> Only know that I tend to go through the same
thing, feeling like I could eat anything that isn't nailed down. I really have to put in so much
more thought and effort in keeping things in line during this time (and am not always successful).
BUT ... any damage that might be done, can always be undone. We have the knowledge, we have the
tools - it's up to us to do the work.

I was eating the wonder light wheat bread, tastes great (to me) - but recently have made another
switch to SaraLee Delightfuls. It still comes out to 1 point for 2 slices but tastes much better to
me. Very soft and light, not heavy. I know me and bread, like it all too well - so will not make the
switch back to regular versions as I tend to eat too much of it.

Cravings can also be due to lacking *something* in nutrients, I haven't figured out how to decipher
what my body is telling me though. When I remembered to take the multivitamins, I did notice the
cravings were less frequent. Admittedly, I am horrid at taking them though - hate pills of any kind,
they just aren't a routine in my life. I do think it is a good thing to get back into the habit of
though, and might be something you want to give some thought to.

Joyce

skiur said:

It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the nap that I had and dh's snoring
like he plans on bringing the walls down. Naps aren't my friend. I wake up cranky.

I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier choices this week and that is annoying me. First it
was the french bread that I bought to have with french onion soup. I like white bread a bit too
much and always have. I started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to be fair most of my points
came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher on the points. Tuesday and Wednesday same
thing. I've noticed that the veggies have been lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the
desire to deal with it right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.

I've made some changes to the bread I use at lunchtime. I traded in the Atkins less points bread
for a more substantial wheat bread (difference 1 point). I think it tastes better. I've also been
having Trader Joe's yogurt at lunch and while it is good...I prefer the cottage cheese singles
with fruit.

TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it difficult to control the cravings. Anyone
know why?

Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.

Well 1/2 a pound is better than none at all and if you keep this up, you'll get there sooner or
later. Losing takes time and patience, so try to be as patient as you can and it'll happen.
Good luck.

Brenda

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Thanks Brenda.

I've been journaling and drinking my water all week, so that has helped tremendously because I am
still aware of what I'm eating. I'm trying real hard to adjust my 'tude this week. If I'm reading
my scale I've still dropped some weight this week, but maybe all of 1/2 pound or so.

Julie

"Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Sorry things aren't going well right now Julie. I can relate. I had a difficult time over the
last 5 months or so, then all of a sudden things changed. This week has been going great so far.
I feel as though I did

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

year ago when I first joined WW. I've been journalling, drinking my

water,

Quoted message said:

and staying OP. Just do the best you can, sooner or later things will

fall

Quoted message said:

back into place. We're all here for you if you need the support. Just

post

Quoted message said:

your little heart out!

Take care, Brenda

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the nap

that

Quoted message said:

I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing the walls down. Naps aren't my friend. I wake
up cranky.

I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier choices this week and

that

Quoted message said:

is

Quoted message said:

annoying me. First it was the french bread that I bought to have with french onion soup. I
like white bread a bit too much and always have.

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to be fair most of my

points

Quoted message said:

came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher on the points. Tuesday and Wednesday
same thing. I've noticed that the veggies have

been

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the desire to deal with

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.

I've made some changes to the bread I use at lunchtime. I traded in

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Atkins less points bread for a more substantial wheat bread

(difference

Quoted message said:

1

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

point). I think it tastes better. I've also been having Trader Joe's yogurt at lunch and while
it is good...I prefer the cottage cheese

singles

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with fruit.

TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it difficult to

control

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the cravings. Anyone know why?

Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.

Very true. I like alone time. What keeps you up this late?

I think it is TOM. Next month will be better. I also passed on two lunches out because I knew that
if it wasn't nailed down it was going to my tummy.

I'll keep the SaraLee in mind when I go to the store tonight. Tomorrow we're going to a
coworker/friend's place and we're doing crab cakes and making sushi. It should be fun. We're meeting
at Mitsuwa to do the shopping there so it's authentic.

I am not surprised that cravings mean a lack of nutrients, but I feel really sick when I take my
vitamins. I was told that there are a lot of people who get dizzy after taking One-a-days on an
empty stomach. I am apparently one of them. I don't know what in them that does it either.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Welcome to my world of the late nite hours (or early morning, depends on

how you

Quoted message said:

look at it). <grin> Look on the bright side, during this time not one

single

Quoted message said:

person is demanding anything of you ... this time is entirely for YOU!

Now this is just my thinking, but I would be willing to guess that the

hard time

Quoted message said:

this week could very well be due to TOM. Wish I could give you a

scientific

Quoted message said:

reason as to why, but I have no clue. When all else fails, blame it on

the

Quoted message said:

hormones. <grin> Only know that I tend to go through the same thing,

feeling

Quoted message said:

like I could eat anything that isn't nailed down. I really have to put in

so much

Quoted message said:

more thought and effort in keeping things in line during this time (and am

not

Quoted message said:

always successful). BUT ... any damage that might be done, can always be

undone.

Quoted message said:

We have the knowledge, we have the tools - it's up to us to do the work.

I was eating the wonder light wheat bread, tastes great (to me) - but

recently

Quoted message said:

have made another switch to SaraLee Delightfuls. It still comes out to 1

point for

Quoted message said:

2 slices but tastes much better to me. Very soft and light, not heavy. I

know me

Quoted message said:

and bread, like it all too well - so will not make the switch back to

regular

Quoted message said:

versions as I tend to eat too much of it.

Cravings can also be due to lacking *something* in nutrients, I haven't

figured

Quoted message said:

out how to decipher what my body is telling me though. When I remembered

to take

Quoted message said:

the multivitamins, I did notice the cravings were less frequent.

Admittedly, I am

Quoted message said:

horrid at taking them though - hate pills of any kind, they just aren't a

routine

Quoted message said:

in my life. I do think it is a good thing to get back into the habit of

though,

Quoted message said:

and might be something you want to give some thought to.

Joyce

skiur said:

It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the nap

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing the walls down. Naps aren't my friend. I wake up
cranky.

I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier choices this week and that

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

annoying me. First it was the french bread that I bought to have with french onion soup. I like
white bread a bit too much and always have. I started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to
be fair most of my

points

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher on the points. Tuesday and Wednesday same
thing. I've noticed that the veggies have been lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the
desire to deal with it right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.

I've made some changes to the bread I use at lunchtime. I traded in the Atkins less points bread
for a more substantial wheat bread (difference 1 point). I think it tastes better. I've also been
having Trader Joe's yogurt at lunch and while it is good...I prefer the cottage cheese

singles

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with fruit.

TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it difficult to control the cravings. Anyone
know why?

Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.

Thanks Brenda.

"Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Well 1/2 a pound is better than none at all and if you keep this up,

you'll

Quoted message said:

get there sooner or later. Losing takes time and patience, so try to be

as

Quoted message said:

patient as you can and it'll happen. Good luck.

Brenda

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Thanks Brenda.

I've been journaling and drinking my water all week, so that has helped tremendously because I
am still aware of what I'm eating. I'm trying

real

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

hard to adjust my 'tude this week. If I'm reading my scale I've still dropped some weight this
week, but maybe all of 1/2 pound or so.

Julie

"Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Sorry things aren't going well right now Julie. I can relate. I had

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

difficult time over the last 5 months or so, then all of a sudden

things

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

changed. This week has been going great so far. I feel as though I

did

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

year ago when I first joined WW. I've been journalling, drinking my

water,

Quoted message said:

and staying OP. Just do the best you can, sooner or later things will

fall

Quoted message said:

back into place. We're all here for you if you need the support.

Just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

post

Quoted message said:

your little heart out!

Take care, Brenda

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
>
> It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the

nap

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that
> I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing the walls down.

Naps

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> aren't my friend. I wake up cranky.
>
> I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier choices this week and

that

Quoted message said:

is
> annoying me. First it was the french bread that I bought to have

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> french onion soup. I like white bread a bit too much and always

have.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

> started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to be fair most of my
points
> came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher on the

points.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Tuesday and Wednesday same thing. I've noticed that the veggies have

been

Quoted message said:

> lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the desire to deal with

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.
>
> I've made some changes to the bread I use at lunchtime. I traded in

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Atkins less points bread for a more substantial wheat bread

(difference

Quoted message said:

1

Quoted message said:

> point). I think it tastes better. I've also been having Trader

Joe's

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> yogurt at lunch and while it is good...I prefer the cottage cheese

singles

Quoted message said:

> with fruit.
>
> TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it difficult to

control

Quoted message said:

> the cravings. Anyone know why?
>
> Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.
>
>

As far as the vitamins go, among the very long list of things I am allergic
to is any high concentration of iron. I can eat spinach and other
vegetables but can't take a pill or eat liver of any kind. I mean liver
smells good to me and when I am chewing the second bite the first bite is on
its way back up. I "think" I like the taste of it but am still not sure.
Because of the things I am allergic to I have to be careful and usually end
up taking separate supplements as a result, at least when I am being good
and taking them, Lee
skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Very true. I like alone time. What keeps you up this late?

I think it is TOM. Next month will be better. I also passed on two

lunches

Quoted message said:

out because I knew that if it wasn't nailed down it was going to my tummy.

I'll keep the SaraLee in mind when I go to the store tonight. Tomorrow we're
going to a coworker/friend's place and we're doing crab cakes and making sushi.
It should be fun. We're meeting at Mitsuwa to do the shopping there so it's
authentic.

I am not surprised that cravings mean a lack of nutrients, but I feel

really

Quoted message said:

sick when I take my vitamins. I was told that there are a lot of people

who

Quoted message said:

get dizzy after taking One-a-days on an empty stomach. I am apparently

one

Quoted message said:

of them. I don't know what in them that does it either.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Welcome to my world of the late nite hours (or early morning, depends on

how you

Quoted message said:

look at it). <grin> Look on the bright side, during this time not one

single

Quoted message said:

person is demanding anything of you ... this time is entirely for YOU!

Now this is just my thinking, but I would be willing to guess that the

hard time

Quoted message said:

this week could very well be due to TOM. Wish I could give you a

scientific

Quoted message said:

reason as to why, but I have no clue. When all else fails, blame it on

the

Quoted message said:

hormones. <grin> Only know that I tend to go through the same thing,

feeling

Quoted message said:

like I could eat anything that isn't nailed down. I really have to put

in

Quoted message said:

so much

Quoted message said:

more thought and effort in keeping things in line during this time (and

am

Quoted message said:

not

Quoted message said:

always successful). BUT ... any damage that might be done, can always

be

Quoted message said:

undone.

Quoted message said:

We have the knowledge, we have the tools - it's up to us to do the work.

I was eating the wonder light wheat bread, tastes great (to me) - but

recently

Quoted message said:

have made another switch to SaraLee Delightfuls. It still comes out to 1

point for

Quoted message said:

2 slices but tastes much better to me. Very soft and light, not heavy.

I

Quoted message said:

know me

Quoted message said:

and bread, like it all too well - so will not make the switch back to

regular

Quoted message said:

versions as I tend to eat too much of it.

Cravings can also be due to lacking *something* in nutrients, I haven't

figured

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out how to decipher what my body is telling me though. When I

remembered

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to take

Quoted message said:

the multivitamins, I did notice the cravings were less frequent.

Admittedly, I am

Quoted message said:

horrid at taking them though - hate pills of any kind, they just aren't

a

Quoted message said:

routine

Quoted message said:

in my life. I do think it is a good thing to get back into the habit of

though,

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and might be something you want to give some thought to.

Joyce

skiur said:

It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the nap

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing the walls down. Naps aren't
my friend. I wake up cranky.

I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier choices this week and

that

Quoted message said:

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

annoying me. First it was the french bread that I bought to have with french
onion soup. I like white bread a bit too much and always have.

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to be fair most of my

points

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher on the points. Tuesday
and Wednesday same thing. I've noticed that the veggies have

been

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the desire to deal with it
right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.

I've made some changes to the bread I use at lunchtime. I traded in the
Atkins less points bread for a more substantial wheat bread (difference

1

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

point). I think it tastes better. I've also been having Trader Joe's yogurt
at lunch and while it is good...I prefer the cottage cheese

singles

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with fruit.

TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it difficult to

control

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the cravings. Anyone know why?

Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.

I've never been a good sleeper, probably get it from my mom
- she was a night owl also. Sometimes I blame it on working
night shifts in my youth, but I know that isn't really true.
<G> I just like the quiet time, can get a lot done with no
one bugging me. Tonite it's primarily due to taking a much
too long nap on the couch earlier in the evening, bad habit
I've gotten into. I sit to watch the 10PM news and before I
know it I fall asleep ... wake up about 3 hours later,
raring to go. <sigh> And I hate going to bed before the kids
are home, can't sleep until I know everyone is safely where
they belong. So here I sit, 2:20 am and waiting for youngest
daughter to get her butt in the door. <g>

The saralee bread is good, but it is very light. If you like
heavier, more substantial bread you might not like this. I
like soft and light, so it works well for me.

I have problems with vitamins also - not becoming ill, but
anything with iron gives me a big problem. Will stop me
totally up for days and days. I did a lot of looking,
finally found a *senior* vitamin that contained no iron. It
works well for me, when I remember to take it. <G> If the
vitamins upset your stomach, then make them a part of your
breakfast or lunch or dinner routine. Nothing says they
can't be taken with food, or that they have to be taken in
the morning. Hub used to just put his pills right next to
his dinner plate ... eat dinner, pop the pills - became a
routine, and still is. I do remember reading something about
vitamins not being taken with acidic juices though,
something about absorbtion of some nutrients. But I figure
whatever little bit is not absorbed is more than likely made
up by what I eat anyway. I've also heard of many adults that
take childrens vitamins. We probably don't need 100% of
whatever is in the adult versions anyway.

Joyce

skiur said:

Very true. I like alone time. What keeps you up this late?

I think it is TOM. Next month will be better. I also passed
on two lunches out because I knew that if it wasn't nailed
down it was going to my tummy.

I'll keep the SaraLee in mind when I go to the store
tonight. Tomorrow we're going to a coworker/friend's place
and we're doing crab cakes and making sushi. It should be
fun. We're meeting at Mitsuwa to do the shopping there so
it's authentic.

I am not surprised that cravings mean a lack of nutrients,
but I feel really sick when I take my vitamins. I was told
that there are a lot of people who get dizzy after taking
One-a-days on an empty stomach. I am apparently one of
them. I don't know what in them that does it either.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Welcome to my world of the late nite hours (or early
morning, depends on

how you

Quoted message said:

look at it). <grin> Look on the bright side, during this
time not one

single

Quoted message said:

person is demanding anything of you ... this time is
entirely for YOU!

Now this is just my thinking, but I would be willing to
guess that the

hard time

Quoted message said:

this week could very well be due to TOM. Wish I could
give you a

scientific

Quoted message said:

reason as to why, but I have no clue. When all else
fails, blame it on

the

Quoted message said:

hormones. <grin> Only know that I tend to go through the
same thing,

feeling

Quoted message said:

like I could eat anything that isn't nailed down. I
really have to put in

so much

Quoted message said:

more thought and effort in keeping things in line during
this time (and am

not

Quoted message said:

always successful). BUT ... any damage that might be
done, can always be

undone.

Quoted message said:

We have the knowledge, we have the tools - it's up to us
to do the work.

I was eating the wonder light wheat bread, tastes great
(to me) - but

recently

Quoted message said:

have made another switch to SaraLee Delightfuls. It still
comes out to 1

point for

Quoted message said:

2 slices but tastes much better to me. Very soft and
light, not heavy. I

know me

Quoted message said:

and bread, like it all too well - so will not make the
switch back to

regular

Quoted message said:

versions as I tend to eat too much of it.

Cravings can also be due to lacking *something* in
nutrients, I haven't

figured

Quoted message said:

out how to decipher what my body is telling me though.
When I remembered

to take

Quoted message said:

the multivitamins, I did notice the cravings were less
frequent.

Admittedly, I am

Quoted message said:

horrid at taking them though - hate pills of any kind,
they just aren't a

routine

Quoted message said:

in my life. I do think it is a good thing to get back
into the habit of

though,

Quoted message said:

and might be something you want to give some thought to.

Joyce

skiur said:

It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot to
do with the nap

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing the
walls down. Naps aren't my friend. I wake up cranky.

I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier choices
this week and that

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

annoying me. First it was the french bread that I bought
to have with french onion soup. I like white bread a bit
too much and always have. I started out pretty well with
it on Sunday, but to be fair most of my

points

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher on
the points. Tuesday and Wednesday same thing. I've
noticed that the veggies have been lacking at dinner
time and I just don't have the desire to deal with it
right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.

I've made some changes to the bread I use at lunchtime.
I traded in the Atkins less points bread for a more
substantial wheat bread (difference 1 point). I think it
tastes better. I've also been having Trader Joe's yogurt
at lunch and while it is good...I prefer the cottage
cheese

singles

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with fruit.

TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it
difficult to control the cravings. Anyone know why?

Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.

I've done that too many times too, that's when I figure that I really should
just go to bed and figure out what the news has to say later :-)

I hope she got in at a reasonable hour so that you could
go to bed.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've never been a good sleeper, probably get it from my
mom - she was a

night owl

Quoted message said:

also. Sometimes I blame it on working night shifts in my
youth, but I

know that

Quoted message said:

isn't really true. <G> I just like the quiet time, can get
a lot done

with no one

Quoted message said:

bugging me. Tonite it's primarily due to taking a much too
long nap on

the couch

Quoted message said:

earlier in the evening, bad habit I've gotten into. I sit
to watch the

10PM news

Quoted message said:

and before I know it I fall asleep ... wake up about 3
hours later, raring

to go.

Quoted message said:

<sigh> And I hate going to bed before the kids are home,
can't sleep

until I know

Quoted message said:

everyone is safely where they belong. So here I sit, 2:20
am and waiting

for

Quoted message said:

youngest daughter to get her butt in the door. <g>

The saralee bread is good, but it is very light. If you
like heavier,

more

Quoted message said:

substantial bread you might not like this. I like soft and
light, so it

works

Quoted message said:

well for me.

I have problems with vitamins also - not becoming ill, but
anything with

iron

Quoted message said:

gives me a big problem. Will stop me totally up for days
and days. I did

a lot

Quoted message said:

of looking, finally found a *senior* vitamin that
contained no iron. It

works

Quoted message said:

well for me, when I remember to take it. <G> If the
vitamins upset your

stomach,

Quoted message said:

then make them a part of your breakfast or lunch or dinner
routine.

Nothing says

Quoted message said:

they can't be taken with food, or that they have to be
taken in the

morning. Hub

Quoted message said:

used to just put his pills right next to his dinner plate
... eat dinner,

pop the

Quoted message said:

pills - became a routine, and still is. I do remember
reading something

about

Quoted message said:

vitamins not being taken with acidic juices though,
something about

absorbtion of

Quoted message said:

some nutrients. But I figure whatever little bit is not
absorbed is more

than

Quoted message said:

likely made up by what I eat anyway. I've also heard of
many adults that

take

Quoted message said:

childrens vitamins. We probably don't need 100% of
whatever is in the

adult

Quoted message said:

versions anyway.

Joyce

skiur said:

Very true. I like alone time. What keeps you up
this late?

I think it is TOM. Next month will be better. I also
passed on two

lunches

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

out because I knew that if it wasn't nailed down it was
going to my

tummy.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'll keep the SaraLee in mind when I go to the store
tonight. Tomorrow we're going to a coworker/friend's
place and we're doing crab cakes and making sushi. It
should be fun. We're meeting at Mitsuwa to do the
shopping there so it's authentic.

I am not surprised that cravings mean a lack of
nutrients, but I feel

really

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sick when I take my vitamins. I was told that there are a
lot of people

who

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

get dizzy after taking One-a-days on an empty stomach. I
am apparently

one

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of them. I don't know what in them that does it either.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Welcome to my world of the late nite hours (or early
morning, depends

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

how you

Quoted message said:

look at it). <grin> Look on the bright side, during
this time not one

single

Quoted message said:

person is demanding anything of you ... this time is
entirely for YOU!

Now this is just my thinking, but I would be willing to
guess that the

hard time

Quoted message said:

this week could very well be due to TOM. Wish I could
give you a

scientific

Quoted message said:

reason as to why, but I have no clue. When all else
fails, blame it on

the

Quoted message said:

hormones. <grin> Only know that I tend to go through
the same thing,

feeling

Quoted message said:

like I could eat anything that isn't nailed down. I
really have to put

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

so much

Quoted message said:

more thought and effort in keeping things in line
during this time (and

am

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not

Quoted message said:

always successful). BUT ... any damage that might be
done, can always

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

undone.

Quoted message said:

We have the knowledge, we have the tools - it's up to
us to do the

work.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I was eating the wonder light wheat bread, tastes great
(to me) - but

recently

Quoted message said:

have made another switch to SaraLee Delightfuls. It
still comes out to

1

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

point for

Quoted message said:

2 slices but tastes much better to me. Very soft and
light, not heavy.

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

know me

Quoted message said:

and bread, like it all too well - so will not make the
switch back to

regular

Quoted message said:

versions as I tend to eat too much of it.

Cravings can also be due to lacking *something* in
nutrients, I haven't

figured

Quoted message said:

out how to decipher what my body is telling me though.
When I

remembered

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to take

Quoted message said:

the multivitamins, I did notice the cravings were less
frequent.

Admittedly, I am

Quoted message said:

horrid at taking them though - hate pills of any kind,
they just aren't

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

routine

Quoted message said:

in my life. I do think it is a good thing to get back
into the habit

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

though,

Quoted message said:

and might be something you want to give some
thought to.

Joyce

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 03:27:56 -0600, "skiur"
<[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
>It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot to
>do with the nap

that

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>I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing the
>walls down. Naps aren't my friend. I wake up cranky.
>
>I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier choices
>this week and

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is

Quoted message said:

>annoying me. First it was the french bread that I
>bought to have with french onion soup. I like white
>bread a bit too much and always have.

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to be
>fair most of my

points

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>came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher
>on the points. Tuesday and Wednesday same thing. I've
>noticed that the veggies have

been

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the
>desire to deal with

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.
>
>I've made some changes to the bread I use at
>lunchtime. I traded in

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>Atkins less points bread for a more substantial wheat
>bread

(difference 1

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>point). I think it tastes better. I've also been
>having Trader Joe's yogurt at lunch and while it is
>good...I prefer the cottage cheese

singles

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>with fruit.
>
>TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it
>difficult to

control

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>the cravings. Anyone know why?
>
>Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.
>

Guess it all depends on what your idea of reasonable is. <g>
I received a phone call at midnite ... well actually it was
a voice mail message, as I slept through my ringing cell
phone. Said she was going to use her friends hot tub for
awhile. She and friend rolled in at 2 AM, with bags of white
castle and a bad case of the giggles. At 3:15 I told them
they had two choices ... either I would take friend home
(was past curfew and they already pushed their luck once) or
he could spend the night. They opted to sleep on the couch
and chair, giggled until about 5 when I finally fell asleep.
Currently they are still in the family room, watching
television and planning the rest of their day. Tonite will
be an early bedtime nite for darling daughter. <g>

Joyce

skiur said:

I've done that too many times too, that's when I figure
that I really should just go to bed and figure out what the
news has to say later :-)

I hope she got in at a reasonable hour so that you could
go to bed.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've never been a good sleeper, probably get it from my
mom - she was a

night owl

Quoted message said:

also. Sometimes I blame it on working night shifts in my
youth, but I

know that

Quoted message said:

isn't really true. <G> I just like the quiet time, can
get a lot done

with no one

Quoted message said:

bugging me. Tonite it's primarily due to taking a much
too long nap on

the couch

Quoted message said:

earlier in the evening, bad habit I've gotten into. I sit
to watch the

10PM news

Quoted message said:

and before I know it I fall asleep ... wake up about 3
hours later, raring

to go.

Quoted message said:

<sigh> And I hate going to bed before the kids are home,
can't sleep

until I know

Quoted message said:

everyone is safely where they belong. So here I sit, 2:20
am and waiting

for

Quoted message said:

youngest daughter to get her butt in the door. <g>

The saralee bread is good, but it is very light. If you
like heavier,

more

Quoted message said:

substantial bread you might not like this. I like soft
and light, so it

works

Quoted message said:

well for me.

I have problems with vitamins also - not becoming ill,
but anything with

iron

Quoted message said:

gives me a big problem. Will stop me totally up for days
and days. I did

a lot

Quoted message said:

of looking, finally found a *senior* vitamin that
contained no iron. It

works

Quoted message said:

well for me, when I remember to take it. <G> If the
vitamins upset your

stomach,

Quoted message said:

then make them a part of your breakfast or lunch or
dinner routine.

Nothing says

Quoted message said:

they can't be taken with food, or that they have to be
taken in the

morning. Hub

Quoted message said:

used to just put his pills right next to his dinner plate
... eat dinner,

pop the

Quoted message said:

pills - became a routine, and still is. I do remember
reading something

about

Quoted message said:

vitamins not being taken with acidic juices though,
something about

absorbtion of

Quoted message said:

some nutrients. But I figure whatever little bit is not
absorbed is more

than

Quoted message said:

likely made up by what I eat anyway. I've also heard of
many adults that

take

Quoted message said:

childrens vitamins. We probably don't need 100% of
whatever is in the

adult

Quoted message said:

versions anyway.

Joyce

skiur said:

Very true. I like alone time. What keeps you up this
late?

I think it is TOM. Next month will be better. I also
passed on two

lunches

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

out because I knew that if it wasn't nailed down it was
going to my

tummy.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'll keep the SaraLee in mind when I go to the store
tonight. Tomorrow we're going to a coworker/friend's
place and we're doing crab cakes and making sushi. It
should be fun. We're meeting at Mitsuwa to do the
shopping there so it's authentic.

I am not surprised that cravings mean a lack of
nutrients, but I feel

really

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sick when I take my vitamins. I was told that there are
a lot of people

who

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

get dizzy after taking One-a-days on an empty stomach. I
am apparently

one

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of them. I don't know what in them that does it either.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> Welcome to my world of the late nite hours (or early
> morning, depends

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

how you
> look at it). <grin> Look on the bright side, during
> this time not one
single
> person is demanding anything of you ... this time is
> entirely for YOU!
>
> Now this is just my thinking, but I would be willing
> to guess that the
hard time
> this week could very well be due to TOM. Wish I could
> give you a
scientific
> reason as to why, but I have no clue. When all else
> fails, blame it on
the
> hormones. <grin> Only know that I tend to go through
> the same thing,
feeling
> like I could eat anything that isn't nailed down. I
> really have to put

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

so much
> more thought and effort in keeping things in line
> during this time (and

am

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not
> always successful). BUT ... any damage that might be
> done, can always

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

undone.
> We have the knowledge, we have the tools - it's up to
> us to do the

work.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
> I was eating the wonder light wheat bread, tastes
> great (to me) - but
recently
> have made another switch to SaraLee Delightfuls. It
> still comes out to

1

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

point for
> 2 slices but tastes much better to me. Very soft and
> light, not heavy.

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

know me
> and bread, like it all too well - so will not make the
> switch back to
regular
> versions as I tend to eat too much of it.
>
> Cravings can also be due to lacking *something* in
> nutrients, I haven't
figured
> out how to decipher what my body is telling me though.
> When I

remembered

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to take
> the multivitamins, I did notice the cravings were less
> frequent.
Admittedly, I am
> horrid at taking them though - hate pills of any kind,
> they just aren't

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

routine
> in my life. I do think it is a good thing to get back
> into the habit

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

though,
> and might be something you want to give some
> thought to.
>
> Joyce
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 03:27:56 -0600, "skiur"
> <[email hidden]>

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Quoted message said:

>
> >
> >It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot
> >to do with the nap
that
> >I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing the
> >walls down. Naps aren't my friend. I wake up cranky.
> >
> >I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier
> >choices this week and

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is
> >annoying me. First it was the french bread that I
> >bought to have with french onion soup. I like white
> >bread a bit too much and always have.

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to be
> >fair most of my
points
> >came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was higher
> >on the points. Tuesday and Wednesday same thing. I've
> >noticed that the veggies have

been

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Quoted message said:

> >lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the
> >desire to deal with

it

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Quoted message said:

> >right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.
> >
> >I've made some changes to the bread I use at
> >lunchtime. I traded in

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >Atkins less points bread for a more substantial wheat
> >bread

(difference 1

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >point). I think it tastes better. I've also been
> >having Trader Joe's yogurt at lunch and while it is
> >good...I prefer the cottage cheese
singles
> >with fruit.
> >
> >TOM is right around the corner too and that makes it
> >difficult to

control

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Quoted message said:

> >the cravings. Anyone know why?
> >
> >Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.
> >
>

Reasonable = before you passed out from waiting too long ;-)

You mean there are curfew licenses in IL? I didn't read that
part of the manual closely...

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Guess it all depends on what your idea of reasonable is.
<g> I received a

phone

Quoted message said:

call at midnite ... well actually it was a voice mail
message, as I slept

through

Quoted message said:

my ringing cell phone. Said she was going to use her
friends hot tub for

awhile.

Quoted message said:

She and friend rolled in at 2 AM, with bags of white
castle and a bad case

of the

Quoted message said:

giggles. At 3:15 I told them they had two choices ...
either I would take

friend

Quoted message said:

home (was past curfew and they already pushed their luck
once) or he could

spend

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nite for darling daughter. <g>

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should

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just go to bed and figure out what the news has to say
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also. Sometimes I blame it on working night shifts in
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know that

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isn't really true. <G> I just like the quiet time, can
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with no one

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bugging me. Tonite it's primarily due to taking a much
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to go.

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more

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with

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iron

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gives me a big problem. Will stop me totally up for
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a lot

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of looking, finally found a *senior* vitamin that
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works

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well for me, when I remember to take it. <G> If the
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stomach,

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then make them a part of your breakfast or lunch or
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morning. Hub

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used to just put his pills right next to his dinner
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> Very true. I like alone time. What keeps you up this
> late?
>
>I think it is TOM. Next month will be better. I also
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>out because I knew that if it wasn't nailed down it
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>
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>Mitsuwa to do the shopping there so it's authentic.
>
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>
>Julie
>
>
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>> Welcome to my world of the late nite hours (or early
>> morning,

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>> I was eating the wonder light wheat bread, tastes
>> great (to me) -

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>> light, not

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>> though. When I

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>> less frequent.
>Admittedly, I am
>> horrid at taking them though - hate pills of any
>> kind, they just

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>> in my life. I do think it is a good thing to get
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of

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>though,
>> and might be something you want to give some thought
>> to.
>>
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 03:27:56 -0600, "skiur"
>> <[email hidden]>

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>>
>> >
>> >It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a lot
>> >to do with the

nap

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>that
>> >I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing
>> >the walls down.

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>> >
>> >I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier
>> >choices this week

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>is
>> >annoying me. First it was the french bread that I
>> >bought to have

with

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>> >much and always

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>> >be fair most of

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>> >came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was
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>> >desire to deal

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it

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>> >right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.
>> >
>> >I've made some changes to the bread I use at
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>> >having Trader

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>> >yogurt at lunch and while it is good...I prefer the
>> >cottage cheese
>singles
>> >with fruit.
>> >
>> >TOM is right around the corner too and that makes
>> >it difficult to

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>> >the cravings. Anyone know why?
>> >
>> >Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.
>> >
>>
>

Seeing that I rarely pass out before 4AM, then I guess she
was still in the reasonable limit. <G> Not really though,
due to the curfew thing. Get in an accident and insurance is
invalid - it's considered driving without a valid license.

It's not a curfew *license* - there are curfew laws. Under
the age of 17, must be in by 11PM on weekdays, midnite on
weekends (Fri. and Sat.). IL passed a restricted driving
law for teens last summer, it officially went into effect
in January. This states that any driver holding a license
for less than 6 months is only allowed to carry one
passenger under the age of 18. They also have a law that
has been in effect for several years, which I think is
absolutely ridiculous ... any driver under the age of 21
can/will have their license suspended if they receive two
ticket convictions in a two year period of time. This used
to be (and still may be for everyone over the age of 21)
three tickets in one year. I could understand the validity
of 2 tickets in one year ... but in a two year period of
time seems ridiculous to me. Especially in my area, where
weekly news reports are printed in the papers as how the
police have to start issuing more tickets to build revenue
... or make cuts in employment. Needless to say, we have
traps set up all over. Let's see ... here's another one,
but this one I think is great. Anyone caught passing a
fake id immediately has their drivers license revoked -
not suspended - taken away for 9 months minimum. At that
time you can go to court and request a work or school
priveledge license, while waiting (and hoping) to get your
regular license reinstated. This happened to my neighbor 2
years ago.

Joyce

skiur said:

Reasonable = before you passed out from waiting too long
;-)

You mean there are curfew licenses in IL? I didn't read
that part of the manual closely...

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Guess it all depends on what your idea of reasonable is.
<g> I received a

phone

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call at midnite ... well actually it was a voice mail
message, as I slept

through

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my ringing cell phone. Said she was going to use her
friends hot tub for

awhile.

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She and friend rolled in at 2 AM, with bags of white
castle and a bad case

of the

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giggles. At 3:15 I told them they had two choices ...
either I would take

friend

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home (was past curfew and they already pushed their luck
once) or he could

spend

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the night. They opted to sleep on the couch and chair,
giggled until

about 5 when

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I finally fell asleep. Currently they are still in the
family room,

watching

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television and planning the rest of their day. Tonite
will be an early

bedtime

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nite for darling daughter. <g>

Joyce

skiur said:

I've done that too many times too, that's when I figure
that I really

should

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just go to bed and figure out what the news has to say
later :-)

I hope she got in at a reasonable hour so that you could
go to bed.

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> I've never been a good sleeper, probably get it from
> my mom - she was a
night owl
> also. Sometimes I blame it on working night shifts in
> my youth, but I
know that
> isn't really true. <G> I just like the quiet time, can
> get a lot done
with no one
> bugging me. Tonite it's primarily due to taking a much
> too long nap on
the couch
> earlier in the evening, bad habit I've gotten into. I
> sit to watch the
10PM news
> and before I know it I fall asleep ... wake up about 3
> hours later,

raring

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to go.
> <sigh> And I hate going to bed before the kids are
> home, can't sleep
until I know
> everyone is safely where they belong. So here I sit,
> 2:20 am and

waiting

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for
> youngest daughter to get her butt in the door. <g>
>
> The saralee bread is good, but it is very light. If
> you like heavier,
more
> substantial bread you might not like this. I like soft
> and light, so

it

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works
> well for me.
>
> I have problems with vitamins also - not becoming ill,
> but anything

with

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iron
> gives me a big problem. Will stop me totally up for
> days and days. I

did

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a lot
> of looking, finally found a *senior* vitamin that
> contained no iron.

It

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works
> well for me, when I remember to take it. <G> If the
> vitamins upset

your

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stomach,
> then make them a part of your breakfast or lunch or
> dinner routine.
Nothing says
> they can't be taken with food, or that they have to be
> taken in the
morning. Hub
> used to just put his pills right next to his dinner
> plate ... eat

dinner,

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pop the
> pills - became a routine, and still is. I do remember
> reading

something

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about
> vitamins not being taken with acidic juices though,
> something about
absorbtion of
> some nutrients. But I figure whatever little bit is
> not absorbed is

more

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than
> likely made up by what I eat anyway. I've also heard
> of many adults

that

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take
> childrens vitamins. We probably don't need 100% of
> whatever is in the
adult
> versions anyway.
>
> Joyce
>
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:33:30 -0600, "skiur"
> <[email hidden]>

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>
> > Very true. I like alone time. What keeps you up this
> > late?
> >
> >I think it is TOM. Next month will be better. I also
> >passed on two
lunches
> >out because I knew that if it wasn't nailed down it
> >was going to my
tummy.
> >
> >I'll keep the SaraLee in mind when I go to the store
> >tonight.

Tomorrow

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> >we're going to a coworker/friend's place and we're
> >doing crab cakes

and

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> >making sushi. It should be fun. We're meeting at
> >Mitsuwa to do the shopping there so it's authentic.
> >
> >I am not surprised that cravings mean a lack of
> >nutrients, but I feel
really
> >sick when I take my vitamins. I was told that there
> >are a lot of

people

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who
> >get dizzy after taking One-a-days on an empty
> >stomach. I am

apparently

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one
> >of them. I don't know what in them that does it
> >either.
> >
> >Julie
> >
> >
> >"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >"]news:[email hidden]...
> >> Welcome to my world of the late nite hours (or
> >> early morning,

depends

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on
> >how you
> >> look at it). <grin> Look on the bright side, during
> >> this time not

one

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> >single
> >> person is demanding anything of you ... this time
> >> is entirely for

YOU!

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> >>
> >> Now this is just my thinking, but I would be
> >> willing to guess that

the

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> >hard time
> >> this week could very well be due to TOM. Wish I
> >> could give you a
> >scientific
> >> reason as to why, but I have no clue. When all else
> >> fails, blame it

on

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> >the
> >> hormones. <grin> Only know that I tend to go
> >> through the same

thing,

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> >feeling
> >> like I could eat anything that isn't nailed down. I
> >> really have to

put

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in
> >so much
> >> more thought and effort in keeping things in line
> >> during this time

(and

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am
> >not
> >> always successful). BUT ... any damage that might
> >> be done, can

always

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be
> >undone.
> >> We have the knowledge, we have the tools - it's up
> >> to us to do the
work.
> >>
> >> I was eating the wonder light wheat bread, tastes
> >> great (to me) -

but

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> >recently
> >> have made another switch to SaraLee Delightfuls. It
> >> still comes out

to

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1
> >point for
> >> 2 slices but tastes much better to me. Very soft
> >> and light, not

heavy.

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I
> >know me
> >> and bread, like it all too well - so will not make
> >> the switch back

to

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> >regular
> >> versions as I tend to eat too much of it.
> >>
> >> Cravings can also be due to lacking *something* in
> >> nutrients, I

haven't

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> >figured
> >> out how to decipher what my body is telling me
> >> though. When I
remembered
> >to take
> >> the multivitamins, I did notice the cravings were
> >> less frequent.
> >Admittedly, I am
> >> horrid at taking them though - hate pills of any
> >> kind, they just

aren't

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a
> >routine
> >> in my life. I do think it is a good thing to get
> >> back into the

habit

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of
> >though,
> >> and might be something you want to give some
> >> thought to.
> >>
> >> Joyce
> >>
> >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 03:27:56 -0600, "skiur"
> >> <[email hidden]>
wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a
> >> >lot to do with the

nap

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> >that
> >> >I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing
> >> >the walls down.

Naps

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> >> >aren't my friend. I wake up cranky.
> >> >
> >> >I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier
> >> >choices this week

and

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that
> >is
> >> >annoying me. First it was the french bread that I
> >> >bought to have

with

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> >> >french onion soup. I like white bread a bit too
> >> >much and always

have.

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I
> >> >started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but to
> >> >be fair most of

my

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> >points
> >> >came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was
> >> >higher on the

points.

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> >> >Tuesday and Wednesday same thing. I've noticed
> >> >that the veggies

have

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been
> >> >lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the
> >> >desire to deal

with

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it
> >> >right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.
> >> >
> >> >I've made some changes to the bread I use at
> >> >lunchtime. I traded in
the
> >> >Atkins less points bread for a more substantial
> >> >wheat bread
(difference 1
> >> >point). I think it tastes better. I've also been
> >> >having Trader

Joe's

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> >> >yogurt at lunch and while it is good...I prefer
> >> >the cottage cheese
> >singles
> >> >with fruit.
> >> >
> >> >TOM is right around the corner too and that makes
> >> >it difficult to
control
> >> >the cravings. Anyone know why?
> >> >
> >> >Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

Oh my. Ok, *your* bedtime doesn't count ;-)

I didn't know that about the driving laws. Is there an
exception for driving siblings? I would hope there would be
an exception for siblings also. I *really* like the last
law! That's a good one.

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Seeing that I rarely pass out before 4AM, then I guess she
was still in

the

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reasonable limit. <G> Not really though, due to the curfew
thing. Get in

an

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accident and insurance is invalid - it's considered
driving without a

valid

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license.

It's not a curfew *license* - there are curfew laws. Under
the age of 17,

must be

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in by 11PM on weekdays, midnite on weekends (Fri. and
Sat.). IL passed a restricted driving law for teens last
summer, it officially went into

effect in

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January. This states that any driver holding a license for
less than 6

months is

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only allowed to carry one passenger under the age of 18.
They also have a

law

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that has been in effect for several years, which I think
is absolutely

ridiculous

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... any driver under the age of 21 can/will have their
license suspended

if they

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receive two ticket convictions in a two year period of
time. This used to

be (and

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still may be for everyone over the age of 21) three
tickets in one year.

I could

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understand the validity of 2 tickets in one year ... but
in a two year

period of

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time seems ridiculous to me. Especially in my area, where
weekly news

reports are

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printed in the papers as how the police have to start
issuing more tickets

to

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build revenue ... or make cuts in employment. Needless to
say, we have

traps set

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up all over. Let's see ... here's another one, but this
one I think is

great.

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Anyone caught passing a fake id immediately has their
drivers license

revoked -

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not suspended - taken away for 9 months minimum. At that
time you can go

to court

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and request a work or school priveledge license, while
waiting (and

hoping) to get

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your regular license reinstated. This happened to my
neighbor 2 years

ago.

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Joyce

skiur said:

Reasonable = before you passed out from waiting too
long ;-)

You mean there are curfew licenses in IL? I didn't read
that part of the manual closely...

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Guess it all depends on what your idea of reasonable
is. <g> I

received a

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phone

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call at midnite ... well actually it was a voice mail
message, as I

slept

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>
>I hope she got in at a reasonable hour so that you
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>> my mom - she

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>> home, can't

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>>
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>> dinner routine.
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>> be taken in the
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>> used to just put his pills right next to his dinner
>> plate ... eat

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>> Joyce
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:33:30 -0600, "skiur"
>> <[email hidden]>

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>> > Very true. I like alone time. What keeps you up
>> > this late?
>> >
>> >I think it is TOM. Next month will be better. I
>> >also passed on

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>> >out because I knew that if it wasn't nailed down it
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>> >
>> >I'll keep the SaraLee in mind when I go to the
>> >store tonight.

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>> >
>> >I am not surprised that cravings mean a lack of
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>> >of them. I don't know what in them that does it
>> >either.
>> >
>> >Julie
>> >
>> >
>> >"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> Welcome to my world of the late nite hours (or
>> >> early morning,

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>> >how you
>> >> look at it). <grin> Look on the bright side,
>> >> during this time

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>> >> Now this is just my thinking, but I would be
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>> >> this week could very well be due to TOM. Wish I
>> >> could give you a
>> >scientific
>> >> reason as to why, but I have no clue. When all
>> >> else fails, blame

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>> >> hormones. <grin> Only know that I tend to go
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>> >> more thought and effort in keeping things in line
>> >> during this

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>> >not
>> >> always successful). BUT ... any damage that might
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>> >> up to us to do

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>> >>
>> >> I was eating the wonder light wheat bread, tastes
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>> >> have made another switch to SaraLee Delightfuls.
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>> >> and light, not

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>> >> make the switch

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>> >>
>> >> Cravings can also be due to lacking *something*
>> >> in nutrients, I

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>> >> out how to decipher what my body is telling me
>> >> though. When I
>remembered
>> >to take
>> >> the multivitamins, I did notice the cravings were
>> >> less frequent.
>> >Admittedly, I am
>> >> horrid at taking them though - hate pills of any
>> >> kind, they just

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>> >routine
>> >> in my life. I do think it is a good thing to get
>> >> back into the

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>> >though,
>> >> and might be something you want to give some
>> >> thought to.
>> >>
>> >> Joyce
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 03:27:56 -0600, "skiur"
>> >> <[email hidden]>
>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a
>> >> >lot to do with

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>> >that
>> >> >I had and dh's snoring like he plans on bringing
>> >> >the walls down.

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>> >> >
>> >> >I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier
>> >> >choices this week

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>> >is
>> >> >annoying me. First it was the french bread that
>> >> >I bought to

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>> >> >much and always

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>> >> >to be fair most

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>> >> >that the veggies

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>> >> >lacking at dinner time and I just don't have the
>> >> >desire to deal

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>> >> >right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.
>> >> >
>> >> >I've made some changes to the bread I use at
>> >> >lunchtime. I traded

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>> >> >Atkins less points bread for a more substantial
>> >> >wheat bread
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>> >> >point). I think it tastes better. I've also been
>> >> >having Trader

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>> >> >the cottage

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>> >> >
>> >> >TOM is right around the corner too and that
>> >> >makes it difficult

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>> >> >the cravings. Anyone know why?
>> >> >
>> >> >Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

I do believe their is an exception for siblings. I don't
know the exact wording (probably have it somewhere in the
house, as I requested a letter from the state) but it was
basically that only one passenger in the vehicle that was
under the age of 18 (or 21??) with exception to siblings.
BUT ... I took that to mean that they could transport more
than one younger sibling, but no other passengers. This law
didn't affect my daughter, as she had her license for more
than 6 months when the law went into effect. But we did have
some tense moments, as I would not let her carry any
passengers until I received clarification from the state.

Another law the state has been trying to pass, but so far
unsuccessful, is changing the driving curfew to 9PM during
the week. This has led to a lot of opposition due to more
teens now working, stores staying open later ... school
activities later in the evenings with no busing available at
those hours.

And then the new car seat laws for youngsters, which is
meeting with a lot of complaints ... all kids must be in car
seats until the age of 8. That pretty much cuts down on the
possibility of car pooling to school, going home with
friends, etc. 8 years old is what ... 3rd grade?

Joyce

skiur said:

Oh my. Ok, *your* bedtime doesn't count ;-)

I didn't know that about the driving laws. Is there an
exception for driving siblings? I would hope there would be
an exception for siblings also. I *really* like the last
law! That's a good one.

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Seeing that I rarely pass out before 4AM, then I guess
she was still in

the

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reasonable limit. <G> Not really though, due to the
curfew thing. Get in

an

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accident and insurance is invalid - it's considered
driving without a

valid

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license.

It's not a curfew *license* - there are curfew laws.
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must be

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in by 11PM on weekdays, midnite on weekends (Fri. and
Sat.). IL passed a restricted driving law for teens last
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January. This states that any driver holding a license
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only allowed to carry one passenger under the age of 18.
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that has been in effect for several years, which I think
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... any driver under the age of 21 can/will have their
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receive two ticket convictions in a two year period of
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be (and

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still may be for everyone over the age of 21) three
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understand the validity of 2 tickets in one year ... but
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time seems ridiculous to me. Especially in my area, where
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reports are

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printed in the papers as how the police have to start
issuing more tickets

to

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build revenue ... or make cuts in employment. Needless to
say, we have

traps set

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up all over. Let's see ... here's another one, but this
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great.

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Anyone caught passing a fake id immediately has their
drivers license

revoked -

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not suspended - taken away for 9 months minimum. At that
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and request a work or school priveledge license, while
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your regular license reinstated. This happened to my
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Joyce

skiur said:

Reasonable = before you passed out from waiting too
long ;-)

You mean there are curfew licenses in IL? I didn't read
that part of the manual closely...

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> Guess it all depends on what your idea of reasonable
> is. <g> I

received a

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phone
> call at midnite ... well actually it was a voice mail
> message, as I

slept

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through
> my ringing cell phone. Said she was going to use her
> friends hot tub

for

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awhile.
> She and friend rolled in at 2 AM, with bags of white
> castle and a bad

case

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of the
> giggles. At 3:15 I told them they had two choices ...
> either I would

take

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friend
> home (was past curfew and they already pushed their
> luck once) or he

could

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spend
> the night. They opted to sleep on the couch and chair,
> giggled until
about 5 when
> I finally fell asleep. Currently they are still in the
> family room,
watching
> television and planning the rest of their day. Tonite
> will be an early
bedtime
> nite for darling daughter. <g>
>
> Joyce
>
> On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:37:32 -0600, "skiur"
> <[email hidden]>

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>
> >I've done that too many times too, that's when I
> >figure that I really
should
> >just go to bed and figure out what the news has to
> >say later :-)
> >
> >I hope she got in at a reasonable hour so that you
> >could go to bed.
> >
> >"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >"]news:[email hidden]...
> >> I've never been a good sleeper, probably get it
> >> from my mom - she

was a

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> >night owl
> >> also. Sometimes I blame it on working night shifts
> >> in my youth, but

I

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> >know that
> >> isn't really true. <G> I just like the quiet time,
> >> can get a lot

done

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> >with no one
> >> bugging me. Tonite it's primarily due to taking a
> >> much too long nap

on

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> >the couch
> >> earlier in the evening, bad habit I've gotten into.
> >> I sit to watch

the

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> >10PM news
> >> and before I know it I fall asleep ... wake up
> >> about 3 hours later,
raring
> >to go.
> >> <sigh> And I hate going to bed before the kids are
> >> home, can't

sleep

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> >until I know
> >> everyone is safely where they belong. So here I
> >> sit, 2:20 am and
waiting
> >for
> >> youngest daughter to get her butt in the door. <g>
> >>
> >> The saralee bread is good, but it is very light. If
> >> you like

heavier,

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> >more
> >> substantial bread you might not like this. I like
> >> soft and light,

so

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it
> >works
> >> well for me.
> >>
> >> I have problems with vitamins also - not becoming
> >> ill, but anything
with
> >iron
> >> gives me a big problem. Will stop me totally up for
> >> days and days.

I

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did
> >a lot
> >> of looking, finally found a *senior* vitamin that
> >> contained no iron.
It
> >works
> >> well for me, when I remember to take it. <G> If the
> >> vitamins upset
your
> >stomach,
> >> then make them a part of your breakfast or lunch or
> >> dinner routine.
> >Nothing says
> >> they can't be taken with food, or that they have to
> >> be taken in the
> >morning. Hub
> >> used to just put his pills right next to his dinner
> >> plate ... eat
dinner,
> >pop the
> >> pills - became a routine, and still is. I do
> >> remember reading
something
> >about
> >> vitamins not being taken with acidic juices though,
> >> something about
> >absorbtion of
> >> some nutrients. But I figure whatever little bit is
> >> not absorbed is
more
> >than
> >> likely made up by what I eat anyway. I've also
> >> heard of many adults
that
> >take
> >> childrens vitamins. We probably don't need 100% of
> >> whatever is in

the

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> >adult
> >> versions anyway.
> >>
> >> Joyce
> >>
> >> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:33:30 -0600, "skiur"
> >> <[email hidden]>
wrote:
> >>
> >> > Very true. I like alone time. What keeps you up
> >> > this late?
> >> >
> >> >I think it is TOM. Next month will be better. I
> >> >also passed on

two

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> >lunches
> >> >out because I knew that if it wasn't nailed down
> >> >it was going to my
> >tummy.
> >> >
> >> >I'll keep the SaraLee in mind when I go to the
> >> >store tonight.
Tomorrow
> >> >we're going to a coworker/friend's place and we're
> >> >doing crab cakes
and
> >> >making sushi. It should be fun. We're meeting at
> >> >Mitsuwa to do

the

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> >> >shopping there so it's authentic.
> >> >
> >> >I am not surprised that cravings mean a lack of
> >> >nutrients, but I

feel

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> >really
> >> >sick when I take my vitamins. I was told that
> >> >there are a lot of
people
> >who
> >> >get dizzy after taking One-a-days on an empty
> >> >stomach. I am
apparently
> >one
> >> >of them. I don't know what in them that does it
> >> >either.
> >> >
> >> >Julie
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0j8-
> >> >[email hidden]...
> >> >> Welcome to my world of the late nite hours (or
> >> >> early morning,
depends
> >on
> >> >how you
> >> >> look at it). <grin> Look on the bright side,
> >> >> during this time

not

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one
> >> >single
> >> >> person is demanding anything of you ... this
> >> >> time is entirely for
YOU!
> >> >>
> >> >> Now this is just my thinking, but I would be
> >> >> willing to guess

that

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the
> >> >hard time
> >> >> this week could very well be due to TOM. Wish I
> >> >> could give you a
> >> >scientific
> >> >> reason as to why, but I have no clue. When all
> >> >> else fails, blame

it

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on
> >> >the
> >> >> hormones. <grin> Only know that I tend to go
> >> >> through the same
thing,
> >> >feeling
> >> >> like I could eat anything that isn't nailed
> >> >> down. I really have

to

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put
> >in
> >> >so much
> >> >> more thought and effort in keeping things in
> >> >> line during this

time

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(and
> >am
> >> >not
> >> >> always successful). BUT ... any damage that
> >> >> might be done, can
always
> >be
> >> >undone.
> >> >> We have the knowledge, we have the tools - it's
> >> >> up to us to do

the

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> >work.
> >> >>
> >> >> I was eating the wonder light wheat bread,
> >> >> tastes great (to me) -
but
> >> >recently
> >> >> have made another switch to SaraLee Delightfuls.
> >> >> It still comes

out

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to
> >1
> >> >point for
> >> >> 2 slices but tastes much better to me. Very soft
> >> >> and light, not
heavy.
> >I
> >> >know me
> >> >> and bread, like it all too well - so will not
> >> >> make the switch

back

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to
> >> >regular
> >> >> versions as I tend to eat too much of it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cravings can also be due to lacking *something*
> >> >> in nutrients, I
haven't
> >> >figured
> >> >> out how to decipher what my body is telling me
> >> >> though. When I
> >remembered
> >> >to take
> >> >> the multivitamins, I did notice the cravings
> >> >> were less frequent.
> >> >Admittedly, I am
> >> >> horrid at taking them though - hate pills of any
> >> >> kind, they just
aren't
> >a
> >> >routine
> >> >> in my life. I do think it is a good thing to get
> >> >> back into the
habit
> >of
> >> >though,
> >> >> and might be something you want to give some
> >> >> thought to.
> >> >>
> >> >> Joyce
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 03:27:56 -0600, "skiur"
> >> >> <[email hidden]>
> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It's 3am and I can't sleep. I'm sure that has a
> >> >> >lot to do with

the

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nap
> >> >that
> >> >> >I had and dh's snoring like he plans on
> >> >> >bringing the walls down.
Naps
> >> >> >aren't my friend. I wake up cranky.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I'm having a hard time sticking with healthier
> >> >> >choices this week
and
> >that
> >> >is
> >> >> >annoying me. First it was the french bread that
> >> >> >I bought to

have

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with
> >> >> >french onion soup. I like white bread a bit too
> >> >> >much and always
have.
> >I
> >> >> >started out pretty well with it on Sunday, but
> >> >> >to be fair most

of

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my
> >> >points
> >> >> >came from white bread on Sunday. Monday, I was
> >> >> >higher on the
points.
> >> >> >Tuesday and Wednesday same thing. I've noticed
> >> >> >that the veggies
have
> >been
> >> >> >lacking at dinner time and I just don't have
> >> >> >the desire to deal
with
> >it
> >> >> >right now. Hopefully Thursday will be better.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I've made some changes to the bread I use at
> >> >> >lunchtime. I traded

in

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> >the
> >> >> >Atkins less points bread for a more substantial
> >> >> >wheat bread
> >(difference 1
> >> >> >point). I think it tastes better. I've also
> >> >> >been having Trader
Joe's
> >> >> >yogurt at lunch and while it is good...I prefer
> >> >> >the cottage

cheese

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> >> >singles
> >> >> >with fruit.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >TOM is right around the corner too and that
> >> >> >makes it difficult

to

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> >control
> >> >> >the cravings. Anyone know why?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Julie, who is going for a 3.5 hr nap now.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

Joyce said:

I do believe their is an exception for siblings. I don't
know the exact wording (probably have it somewhere in the
house, as I requested a letter from the state) but it was
basically that only one passenger in the vehicle that was
under the age of 18 (or 21??) with exception to siblings.
BUT ... I took that to mean that they could transport
more than one younger sibling, but no other passengers.
This law didn't affect my daughter, as she had her
license for more than 6 months when the law went into
effect. But we did have some tense moments, as I would
not let her carry any passengers until I received
clarification from the state.

Does driver age vary from state to state? Here in the UK,
you have to be 17 to learn to drive. Once you have a full
licence, you can carry as many passengers as the car will
legally hold.

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Another law the state has been trying to pass, but so far
unsuccessful, is changing the driving curfew to 9PM during
the week. This has led to a lot of opposition due to more
teens now working, stores staying open later ... school
activities later in the evenings with no busing available
at those hours.

And then the new car seat laws for youngsters, which is
meeting with a lot of complaints ... all kids must be in
car seats until the age of 8. That pretty much cuts down
on the possibility of car pooling to school, going home
with friends, etc. 8 years old is what ... 3rd grade?

AKK! THAT wouldn't work for us! We had a car seat for James
that was supposed to fit a child up to the age of 12... He
grew out of it last year, aged 8! He's already taller than
quite a few 13 YO's I've taught in the past. Not skinny,
either: not fat, but broad as well as tall.
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Joyce said:

I do believe their is an exception for siblings. I don't
know the exact wording (probably have it somewhere in the
house, as I requested a letter from the state) but it was
basically that only one passenger in the vehicle that was
under the age of 18 (or 21??) with exception to siblings.
BUT ... I took that to mean that they could transport
more than one younger sibling, but no other passengers.
This law didn't affect my daughter, as she had her
license for more than 6 months when the law went into
effect. But we did have some tense moments, as I would
not let her carry any passengers until I received
clarification from the state.

Does driver age vary from state to state? Here in the UK,
you have to be 17 to learn to drive. Once you have a full
licence, you can carry as many passengers as the car will
legally hold.

No, the learning age appears to be a federal law - or all
the states have set their laws to be the same. Kids can
receive their learners permits at age 15, can apply and test
for official license at 16. With the permit, they can only
drive with a licensed adult (over the age of 21) in the
front seat with them. In order to receive their license,
they have to submit a written and signed form listing 25
hours of practice driving time (An Illinois law). This
doesn't sound like much, until you're the parent that has to
make sure they accomplish this task. It wasn't easy, seemed
to take forever. <g> After holding license for 6 months, the
1 passenger restriction is lifted ... but there is still the
*seat belt law* - stating all passengers under the age of 18
MUST wear their seatbelt regardless as to being in the front
or rear seat (when riding with a driver under the age of
21). There are all kinds of twists and turns to this
law. I'm very surprised the police can even keep
track of them all.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Another law the state has been trying to pass, but so far
unsuccessful, is changing the driving curfew to 9PM
during the week. This has led to a lot of opposition due
to more teens now working, stores staying open later ...
school activities later in the evenings with no busing
available at those hours.

And then the new car seat laws for youngsters, which is
meeting with a lot of complaints ... all kids must be in
car seats until the age of 8. That pretty much cuts down
on the possibility of car pooling to school, going home
with friends, etc. 8 years old is what ... 3rd grade?

AKK! THAT wouldn't work for us! We had a car seat for James
that was supposed to fit a child up to the age of 12... He
grew out of it last year, aged 8! He's already taller than
quite a few 13 YO's I've taught in the past. Not skinny,
either: not fat, but broad as well as tall.

When I was raising the kids, the age for car seats was 4 or
40 pounds ... now it's just a flat *age of 8 yrs.*. I know
several kids who would not have fit into a car seat at 8
years old - too heavy, too tall, whatever. Some people have
made complaints that they would now have to go purchase
larger vehicles, as 3 or more car seats will not fit easily
into the compacts that they own - yet they can't afford the
more costly vans or suv's that would hold more seats. I do
understand the logic behind the law, along with what they
are trying to accomplish. I don't think it was very well
thought out. Probably put into effect by men who never once
had to deal with transporting multiple children. <g>

Joyce