A Lesson from Florida: It's Time for Regime Change!



On 31 Oct 2004, the cheeks of Mike Vandeman parted, and a trumpetous
noise emerged:

> .> I only saw him out the front window as he staggered off.
> .> .There's nothing to prevent something similar from happening in
> your .> weed- .patch. Hell, in the Bay Area, there are groups that
> .> deliberately go out .and break stupid laws, for fun. There are
> .> millions of acres of forest in .the US that are more "off-limits to
> .> all humans" than your 400 sq. feet.
> .>
> .> You missed the point, as usual. The point is to make it off-limits
> to .> humans, not to make it IMPOSSIBLE for humans to go there. The
> latter .> is impossible.
> .
> .Then what's the point? "Keep Out" is only as good as the 49 cent
> plastic .sign it's written on.
>
> Yes, for scofflaws like you and other mountain bikers.


Oh, I see. So, um... supposing I am a "scofflaw", what's to prevent me
from ripping down your sign and trampling your weed patch? You haven't
really answered the question, have you?

Also, for the 8th time, I am not a mountain biker.

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Since this seems to be so popular:

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I am working on creating squirrel habitat that is "protected" from humans
by a bailing wire fence ("weed patch"). Want to help? (I spent the
previous 8 years not mowing my lawn and trying to verbally convince
termites not to eat my house.)
 
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 08:37:04 GMT, Scott Burley <[email protected]> wrote:

..On 31 Oct 2004, the cheeks of Mike Vandeman parted, and a trumpetous
..noise emerged:
..
..> .> I only saw him out the front window as he staggered off.
..> .> .There's nothing to prevent something similar from happening in
..> your .> weed- .patch. Hell, in the Bay Area, there are groups that
..> .> deliberately go out .and break stupid laws, for fun. There are
..> .> millions of acres of forest in .the US that are more "off-limits to
..> .> all humans" than your 400 sq. feet.
..> .>
..> .> You missed the point, as usual. The point is to make it off-limits
..> to .> humans, not to make it IMPOSSIBLE for humans to go there. The
..> latter .> is impossible.
..> .
..> .Then what's the point? "Keep Out" is only as good as the 49 cent
..> plastic .sign it's written on.
..>
..> Yes, for scofflaws like you and other mountain bikers.
..
..Oh, I see. So, um... supposing I am a "scofflaw", what's to prevent me
..from ripping down your sign and trampling your weed patch?

The law. Something you obviously have no respect for.

You haven't
..really answered the question, have you?
..
..Also, for the 8th time, I am not a mountain biker.

Then why do you act just like one???
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 08:37:04 GMT, Scott Burley <[email protected]> wrote:

..On 31 Oct 2004, the cheeks of Mike Vandeman parted, and a trumpetous
..noise emerged:
..
..> .> I only saw him out the front window as he staggered off.
..> .> .There's nothing to prevent something similar from happening in
..> your .> weed- .patch. Hell, in the Bay Area, there are groups that
..> .> deliberately go out .and break stupid laws, for fun. There are
..> .> millions of acres of forest in .the US that are more "off-limits to
..> .> all humans" than your 400 sq. feet.
..> .>
..> .> You missed the point, as usual. The point is to make it off-limits
..> to .> humans, not to make it IMPOSSIBLE for humans to go there. The
..> latter .> is impossible.
..> .
..> .Then what's the point? "Keep Out" is only as good as the 49 cent
..> plastic .sign it's written on.
..>
..> Yes, for scofflaws like you and other mountain bikers.
..
..Oh, I see. So, um... supposing I am a "scofflaw", what's to prevent me
..from ripping down your sign and trampling your weed patch?

The law. Something you obviously have no respect for.

You haven't
..really answered the question, have you?
..
..Also, for the 8th time, I am not a mountain biker.

Then why do you act just like one???
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 
On 01 Nov 2004, the cheeks of Mike Vandeman parted, and a trumpetous
noise emerged:

> On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 08:37:04 GMT, Scott Burley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> .On 31 Oct 2004, the cheeks of Mike Vandeman parted, and a trumpetous
> .noise emerged:
> .
> .> .> I only saw him out the front window as he staggered off.
> .> .> .There's nothing to prevent something similar from happening in
> .> your .> weed- .patch. Hell, in the Bay Area, there are groups that
> .> .> deliberately go out .and break stupid laws, for fun. There are
> .> .> millions of acres of forest in .the US that are more "off-limits
> to .> .> all humans" than your 400 sq. feet.
> .> .>
> .> .> You missed the point, as usual. The point is to make it
> off-limits .> to .> humans, not to make it IMPOSSIBLE for humans to go
> there. The .> latter .> is impossible.
> .> .
> .> .Then what's the point? "Keep Out" is only as good as the 49 cent
> .> plastic .sign it's written on.
> .>
> .> Yes, for scofflaws like you and other mountain bikers.
> .
> .Oh, I see. So, um... supposing I am a "scofflaw", what's to prevent
> me .from ripping down your sign and trampling your weed patch?
>
> The law. Something you obviously have no respect for.


So suppose I have no respect for the law. What's to prevent me from
ripping down the sign and trampling your weed patch? You STILL haven't
answered the question.

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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 19:06:33 GMT, Scott Burley <[email protected]> wrote:

..On 01 Nov 2004, the cheeks of Mike Vandeman parted, and a trumpetous
..noise emerged:
..
..> On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 08:37:04 GMT, Scott Burley <[email protected]>
..> wrote:
..>
..> .On 31 Oct 2004, the cheeks of Mike Vandeman parted, and a trumpetous
..> .noise emerged:
..> .
..> .> .> I only saw him out the front window as he staggered off.
..> .> .> .There's nothing to prevent something similar from happening in
..> .> your .> weed- .patch. Hell, in the Bay Area, there are groups that
..> .> .> deliberately go out .and break stupid laws, for fun. There are
..> .> .> millions of acres of forest in .the US that are more "off-limits
..> to .> .> all humans" than your 400 sq. feet.
..> .> .>
..> .> .> You missed the point, as usual. The point is to make it
..> off-limits .> to .> humans, not to make it IMPOSSIBLE for humans to go
..> there. The .> latter .> is impossible.
..> .> .
..> .> .Then what's the point? "Keep Out" is only as good as the 49 cent
..> .> plastic .sign it's written on.
..> .>
..> .> Yes, for scofflaws like you and other mountain bikers.
..> .
..> .Oh, I see. So, um... supposing I am a "scofflaw", what's to prevent
..> me .from ripping down your sign and trampling your weed patch?
..>
..> The law. Something you obviously have no respect for.
..
..So suppose I have no respect for the law. What's to prevent me from
..ripping down the sign and trampling your weed patch? You STILL haven't
..answered the question.

Well, for one thing, you have no idea where it is. :) For another, the police.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande