Andy's bib no.

"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Looks like Andy is running under bib no. is 2250. You can check his

results

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on the marathon website chicagomarathon.comchicagomarathon.comOpen ↗

So far, he's running a 5:30 pace, "predicted" time 2:24:34, based on 15

mile

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split.

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Donovan Rebbechi> pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

My neigbor's results are in 2:25:02 clock 2:24:54. Looks like the last 10k (37:40) was the killer,
isn't it always?

I can't get anything more updated on Andy than his 15 mile time of 1:22:43. What's up with that? It
seem like he should have been done hours ago.

Anyone?

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"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Looks like Andy is running under bib no. is 2250. You can check his

results

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on the marathon website chicagomarathon.comchicagomarathon.comOpen ↗

So far, he's running a 5:30 pace, "predicted" time 2:24:34, based on 15

mile

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split.

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi> pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

My neigbor's results are in 2:25:02 clock 2:24:54. Looks like the last 10k (37:40) was the killer,
isn't it always?

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I can't get anything more updated on Andy than his 15 mile time of 1:22:43. What's up with that?
It seem like he should have been done hours ago.

Nope, nothing. The same page also shows finishers in order, but they don't go further than the top
38, and the top 38 are all faster than Andy. Well no point speculating, I'm sure we'll hear it
straight from the horses mouth soon enough.

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi said:

In article said:

I can't get anything more updated on Andy than his 15 mile time of 1:22:43. What's up with that?
It seem like he should have been done hours ago.

Nope, nothing. The same page also shows finishers in order, but they don't go further than the top
38, and the top 38 are all faster than Andy. Well no point speculating, I'm sure we'll hear it
straight from the horses mouth soon enough.

I'm getting jibberish for Andy 2394 with both netscape and IE. Pace shows 42 minutes and eta of 18
hours with a strange number for the
1/2 way. The hundreth male is 2:30. A bad day at black rock????

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Doug Freese [email hidden]

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I can't get anything more updated on Andy than his 15 mile time of 1:22:43. What's up with that? It
seem like he should have been done hours ago.

I got the top 100 now, and Andy's not among them. It appears he opted to DNF rather than struggle
in; perhaps he has a backup 'thon in mind in a few weeks and didn't want to overdo it today if he
wasn't going to OTQ.

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Brian P. Baresch Fort Worth, Texas, USA Professional editing and proofreading

If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill

Brian Baresch said:

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I can't get anything more updated on Andy than his 15 mile time of 1:22:43. What's up with that?
It seem like he should have been done hours ago.

I got the top 100 now, and Andy's not among them. It appears he opted to DNF rather than
struggle in;

Seems so. The results tool really sucks since it will not get more than the top 100 men which is
2:30. He sure as hell gave it a shot with a 2:23(5:27) pace through the half.

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Doug Freese [email hidden]

Well, that kinda sucked...Full report tomorrow but I wanted to let you all know ASAP since I got so
much support... Briefly, lots of things went wrong on a day where everything had to go right to
reach my goal. First, the 2:22 pace group started out with 30-40 guys and only 3 ended up getting
the qualifier (sub-2:22). The group turned out to be a slight curse in disguise, as some of the
pacing set was erratic (goal pace 5:25, 4th and 9th miles about 5:13!). The 5:13 4th mile did me no
good. I let them go at the 9th so that didn't hurt me as I ran 5:24. I had a slight stitch at 8,
then GI tract problems from 9 on. By about 12 I was also discovering that the over-training I though
I shook was not gone completely. My legs felt at 14 miles like they normally do at 24. Very sore,
totally shot even though I had plenty of energy left and the pace wasn't overly taxing. I bagged the
attempt at 10 and tried to salvage a 2:24-2:27 PR by jogging in, but the leg problems made that hard
enough. Then I started to need pit-stops at 16 so I would lose too much time so I just bagged it
when I saw my fiancee at 16.5. Another attempt is out. I am over-trained so I need a long, long
recovery followed by a slow build-up not reaching full training until sometime in December. I'll go
for a more conservative 2:24-2:25 in Boston. Thanks everyone for the support and interest in my
goal. I have no regrets about doing it (other than not pacing completely by myself on race day!), it
was a wonderful experience. I made peace with the outcome as it happened, though a DNF was a big
disappointment. Andy Hass

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andy,

very sorry to hear about your travails.

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Another attempt is out. I am over-trained so I need a long, long recovery followed by a slow
build-up not reaching full training until sometime in December. I'll go for a more conservative
2:24-2:25 in Boston.

sorry for asking, but does this mean that you're not trying for the olympic trials? when is the
absolute last date that you can try?

regardless, a 2:24 at boston would still be a great time.

good luck in your future endeavors.

regards jobs

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Well, that kinda sucked...Full report tomorrow but I wanted to let

you

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all know ASAP since I got so much support...

Dude,

Sorry about the outcome but it is better to have loved and lost than never loved at all. Next year I
smell a sub 2:22 for you.

Rock on.

Valiant effort, Andrew. You run and race at a level most of us can only dream of.

Rest well, and best of luck at Boston and beyond.

Mike C

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Sender: Andrew T Hass

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Well, that kinda sucked...Full report tomorrow but I wanted to let you all know ASAP since I got
so much support... Briefly, lots of things went wrong on a day where everything had to go right to
reach my goal. First, the 2:22 pace group started out with 30-40 guys and only 3 ended up getting
the qualifier (sub-2:22). The group turned out to be a slight curse in disguise, as some of the
pacing set was erratic (goal pace 5:25, 4th and 9th miles about 5:13!). The 5:13 4th mile did me
no good. I let them go at the 9th so that didn't hurt me as I ran 5:24. I had a slight stitch at
8, then GI tract problems from 9 on. By about 12 I was also discovering that the over-training I
though I shook was not gone completely. My legs felt at 14 miles like they normally do at 24. Very
sore, totally shot even though I had plenty of energy left and the pace wasn't overly taxing. I
bagged the attempt at 10 and tried to salvage a 2:24-2:27 PR by jogging in, but the leg problems
made that hard enough. Then I started to need pit-stops at 16 so I would lose too much time so I
just bagged it when I saw my fiancee at 16.5. Another attempt is out. I am over-trained so I need
a long, long recovery followed by a slow build-up not reaching full training until sometime in
December. I'll go for a more conservative 2:24-2:25 in Boston. Thanks everyone for the support and
interest in my goal. I have no regrets about doing it (other than not pacing completely by myself
on race day!), it was a wonderful experience. I made peace with the outcome as it happened, though
a DNF was a big disappointment. Andy Hass

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Well, that kinda sucked...

...

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I have no regrets about doing it (other than not pacing completely by myself on race day!), it
was a wonderful experience. I made peace with the outcome as it happened, though a DNF was a big
disappointment.

I admire the way you've got a handle on this so quickly, given the stakes. Judging by what you say
here, and if I'm not reading you wrong, then the 2:22 is a not at all a wild fantasy target, if all
comes together on race day.

In article said:

Well, that kinda sucked...Full report tomorrow but I wanted to let you all know ASAP since I
got so much support...

That's too bad, but (unlike many of us) you're still young, and you're not injured. So your
rec.running based fan club will be looking out for you at Boston.

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

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Well, that kinda sucked...

bummer 🙁

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Thanks everyone for the support and interest in my goal.

Thank *you* for sharing your training and effort with us. Seeing someone reach out for a large goal
like that and methodically chip away at it is inspirational.

I have no

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regrets about doing it (other than not pacing completely by myself on race day!), it was a
wonderful experience. I made peace with the outcome as it happened, though a DNF was a big
disappointment.

Great attitude and way to rebound so quickly! The experience and the training will serve you well.

I'm sure you've seen this Teddy Roosevelt quote before: "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to
win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits
who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not
victory nor defeat."

You dared and came close (but I recognize "close" doesn't count in this case).

On to Boston or wherever. You *will* succeed. Good luck.

Dot

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"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

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Well, that kinda sucked...Full report tomorrow but I wanted to let you all know ASAP since I got
so much support... Briefly, lots of things went wrong on a day where everything had to go right
to reach my goal. First, the 2:22 pace group started out with 30-40 guys and only 3 ended up
getting the qualifier (sub-2:22). The group turned out to be a slight curse in disguise, as some
of the pacing set was erratic (goal pace 5:25, 4th and 9th miles about 5:13!). The 5:13 4th mile
did me no good. I let them go at the 9th so that didn't hurt me as I ran 5:24. I had a slight
stitch at 8, then GI tract problems from 9 on. By about 12 I was also discovering that the
over-training I though I shook was not gone completely. My legs felt at 14 miles like they
normally do at 24. Very sore, totally shot even though I had plenty of energy left and the pace
wasn't overly taxing. I bagged the attempt at 10 and tried to salvage a 2:24-2:27 PR by jogging
in, but the leg problems made that hard enough. Then I started to need pit-stops at 16 so I
would lose too much time so I just bagged it when I saw my fiancee at 16.5. Another attempt is
out. I am over-trained so I need a long, long recovery followed by a slow build-up not reaching
full training until sometime in December. I'll go for a more conservative 2:24-2:25 in Boston.
Thanks everyone for the support and interest in my goal. I have no regrets about doing it (other
than not pacing completely by myself on race day!), it was a wonderful experience. I made peace
with the outcome as it happened, though a DNF was a big disappointment. Andy Hass

Wussie.

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I admire the way you've got a handle on this so quickly, given the stakes. Judging by what you say
here, and if I'm not reading you wrong, then the 2:22 is a not at all a wild fantasy target, if all
comes together on race day.

Yeah, what he said. I was disappointed to see that you didn't get the OTQ but appreciate the way
you're handling it. Next time around for sure, I betcha!

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Brian P. Baresch Fort Worth, Texas, USA Professional editing and proofreading

If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill

Donovan Rebbechi said:

That's too bad, but (unlike many of us) you're still young, and you're not injured. So your
rec.running based fan club will be looking out for you at Boston.

What kind of fool would go all the way to Boston just to watch them blow-it? They are going to lose,
they always do, in game 7, ninth inning, 2 outs, 2 strikes, and their best hitter will strike out.
When will you people face it, the red sox are for LOSERS. Go Yankees!

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Well, that kinda sucked...Full report tomorrow but I wanted to let you all know ASAP since I
got so much support... ... ... Another attempt is out. I am over-trained so I need a long, long
recovery followed by a slow build-up not reaching full training until sometime in December.
I'll go for a more conservative 2:24-2:25 in Boston. Thanks everyone for the support and
interest in my goal. I have no regrets about doing it (other than not pacing completely by
myself on race day!), it was a wonderful experience. I made peace with the outcome as it
happened, though a DNF was a big disappointment. Andy Hass

Damn ... I'm really sorry, Andy.

Thanks for wearing your aspirations on your sleave, and for sharing your training acumen with
the group.

You are much appreciated and a real inspiration.

Scott

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Thanks for the early race report. I'm sorry to hear about the problems, but I have no doubt
that you will bounce back and kick some ass later on. Good luck and enjoy the recovery!

-jeremy
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+================================================================+ Jeremy Hallum, System Manager ,
Astronomy, University of Michigan [email hidden]::[email hidden] "Audentis Fortuna Iuvat"

Well, I'm *really* sorry to hear about it, Andy, after all the focused training you did. But it
sounds like you learned some good things for *next time* (there will be a next, right??) I think the
probablity is good that you will make that goal with proper pacing up front.

OK, now I'll scream and yell and gnash my teeth for you! Whew! Much better now...

Teresa in AZ

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Well, that kinda sucked...Full report tomorrow but I wanted to let you all know ASAP since I got
so much support... Briefly, lots of things went wrong on a day where everything had to go right to
reach my goal. First, the 2:22 pace group started out with 30-40 guys and only 3 ended up getting
the qualifier (sub-2:22). The group turned out to be a slight curse in disguise, as some of the
pacing set was erratic (goal pace 5:25, 4th and 9th miles about 5:13!). The 5:13 4th mile did me
no good. I let them go at the 9th so that didn't hurt me as I ran 5:24. I had a slight stitch at
8, then GI tract problems from 9 on. By about 12 I was also discovering that the over-training I
though I shook was not gone completely. My legs felt at 14 miles like they normally do at 24. Very
sore, totally shot even though I had plenty of energy left and the pace wasn't overly taxing. I
bagged the attempt at 10 and tried to salvage a 2:24-2:27 PR by jogging in, but the leg problems
made that hard enough. Then I started to need pit-stops at 16 so I would lose too much time so I
just bagged it when I saw my fiancee at 16.5. Another attempt is out. I am over-trained so I need
a long, long recovery followed by a slow build-up not reaching full training until sometime in
December. I'll go for a more conservative 2:24-2:25 in Boston. Thanks everyone for the support and
interest in my goal. I have no regrets about doing it (other than not pacing completely by myself
on race day!), it was a wonderful experience. I made peace with the outcome as it happened, though
a DNF was a big disappointment. Andy Hass