anth and the flush

In article <[email hidden]>,

Anth said:

The usual from someone who swears by the scientific
method. I will know. The point is you won't and you will
still be parroting assumptions that is doesn't work. I
will find out.

No, the point is that your methodology will not allow you to
"find out," nor is a sample size of one likely to give a
definitive answer.

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Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do
|you inconvenience me with questions?"

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 01:17:54 -0000, "Anth" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I can repeat the experiment many times. If I don't get
anything coming out then the argument that it is a chemical
reaction is refuted in my case.

Yes, it is refuted in YOUR case. That is a case sample of
1. This really proves nothing except that it does not do
this in ALL cases. Maybe it causes a chemical reaction in
most people creating the illusion that they have stones
when they really don't. Unless you repeat the experiment
with a number of people you are just speculating and not
really proving it.

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If stones do come out, each time, then that gives credence
to the fact that it is a chemical reaction, in which case I
can get them analysed in a lab to see what they are.

This is true. YOu can get whatever comes out to be analyzed.

If stones come out each time then it could still mean you
have stones and lots of them. Although personally I think
it is all bunk especially if "stones" of significant size
come out. The duct is not big or distensible enough to
allow this to happen without serious consequences like
severe pain or rupture.

Aloha,

Rich

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The best defense to logic is ignorance

I can repeat the experiment many times. If I don't get
anything coming out then the argument that it is a chemical
reaction is refuted in my case. If stones do come out, each
time, then that gives credence to the fact that it is a
chemical reaction, in which case I can get them analysed in
a lab to see what they are. Access to a scanner would be the
best bet, which is a luxury that I don't have. Anth

"Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:orac-
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Anth said:

The usual from someone who swears by the scientific
method. I will know. The point is you won't and you will
still be parroting assumptions that

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

doesn't work. I will find out.

No, the point is that your methodology will not allow you
to "find out," nor is a sample size of one likely to give
a definitive answer.

--
Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do
|you inconvenience me with questions?"

On a personal basis I prove it. Anth

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Quoted message said:

Anth said:

I can repeat the experiment many times. If I don't get
anything coming out then the argument that it is a

chemical

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

reaction is refuted in my case.

Yes, it is refuted in YOUR case. That is a case sample of
1. This really proves nothing except that it does not do
this in ALL cases. Maybe it causes a chemical reaction in
most people creating the illusion that they have stones
when they really don't. Unless you repeat the experiment
with a number of people you are just speculating and not
really proving it.

Quoted message said:

If stones do come out, each time, then that gives
credence to the fact

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it is a chemical reaction, in which case I can get them
analysed in a lab

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

see what they are.

This is true. YOu can get whatever comes out to be
analyzed.

If stones come out each time then it could still mean you
have stones and lots of them. Although personally I think
it is all bunk especially if "stones" of significant size
come out. The duct is not big or distensible enough to
allow this to happen without serious consequences like
severe pain or rupture.

Aloha,

Rich

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The best defense to logic is ignorance

I had my gallbladder Ultrasounded for stones and found it
was clear after 5-6 flushes. I never had it scanned before
the flushes.

My wife had her gallbladder diagnosed full and after 5-6
flushes had it out after a few severe attacks months
later. Her gallbladder was rock hard with scar tissue.
Stones were not discussed at that point. She flushed many
very large stones during her flushes. All medics agreed
that once a gallbladder becomes defective it will not stop
filling with stones.

Do it. It cleans your liver and feels great.
Gallbladder? Maybe.

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Did they scan the gall bladder and find stones then
no/reduced stones

after

Quoted message said:

the flush? Did you get the stones sent off to a lab?
Cheers Anth

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Quoted message said:

We had absolutely no problem with this flush. It worked
and caused no discomfort except the hunger for the day.
A couple bouts of diarrhea in

the

Quoted message said:

late morning and it was basically over except a good
healthful feeling

or

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

cleanliness.

Many stones came out each time but my wife's gallbladdar
was so hard

they

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

thought she had cancer. Biopsy on it proved hardened
with scar tissue

from

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Quoted message said:

so much abuse to it. The stones destroyed it. The stones
IMO are from

the

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liver mostly and this is excellent for your health to
cleanse your liver anyway.

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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We'll see. Anth

"Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5pydnfIONJRWRtrdRVn-
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> Most of stones for us came out after resuming normal
> eating again.

Don't

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> wory, you can't miss them because of their turquoise
> colour.
>
>
> "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > (and on top of that I added 8floz of celery juice
> > 20:42) Anth
> >
> > "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in
> > message -"]news:[email hidden]-
> > dram.net...
> >
> >
>
>

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Quoted message said:

The usual from someone who swears by the scientific
method. I will know. The point is you won't and you will
still be parroting assumptions that is doesn't work. I
will find out. Anth

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How will you know Anth? I can't picture a normal rational
person picking through their purged bowel contents
(diarrhea) in a toilet bowl looking for tiny stones or a
sandlike substance. If you do or don't find them how will
you know if you removed them or not? Or removed all of them?
This also goes for these "parasites" no one seems to know
the names of.

In any case please wear disposable gloves if you're going to
spend time handling your feces.

Kim

Cool I will bear that in mind thanks! Anth

"Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YrOdnZqMBpIaF9fdRVn-
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Quoted message said:

I had my gallbladder Ultrasounded for stones and found it
was clear after 5-6 flushes. I never had it scanned before
the flushes.

My wife had her gallbladder diagnosed full and after 5-6
flushes had it

out

Quoted message said:

after a few severe attacks months later. Her gallbladder
was rock hard

with

Quoted message said:

scar tissue. Stones were not discussed at that point. She
flushed many

very

Quoted message said:

large stones during her flushes. All medics agreed that
once a gallbladder becomes defective it will not stop
filling with stones.

Do it. It cleans your liver and feels great.
Gallbladder? Maybe.

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Did they scan the gall bladder and find stones then
no/reduced stones

after

Quoted message said:

the flush? Did you get the stones sent off to a lab?
Cheers Anth

"Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

We had absolutely no problem with this flush. It
worked and caused no discomfort except the hunger for
the day. A couple bouts of diarrhea

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the

Quoted message said:

late morning and it was basically over except a good
healthful feeling

or

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

cleanliness.

Many stones came out each time but my wife's
gallbladdar was so hard

they

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

thought she had cancer. Biopsy on it proved hardened
with scar tissue

from

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

so much abuse to it. The stones destroyed it. The
stones IMO are from

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

liver mostly and this is excellent for your health to
cleanse your

liver

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anyway.

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> We'll see. Anth
>
> "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5pydnfIONJRWRtrdRVn-
> [email hidden]...
> > Most of stones for us came out after resuming
> > normal eating

again.

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Don't
> > wory, you can't miss them because of their
> > turquoise colour.
> >
> >
> > "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in
> > message -"]news:[email hidden]-
> > dram.net...
> > > (and on top of that I added 8floz of celery
> > > juice 20:42) Anth
> > >
> > > "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in
> > > message -"]news:[email hidden]-
> > > ildram.net...
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Well apparently according to alt med folklore it comes out
with your pee. To my knowledge I don't have any stones,
there was arguments raised on here that the cleanse is
nothing more than a chemical reaction in the body. I want to
find out. Anth

"Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:-vidnbG_R8xDX9fdRVn-
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"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

The usual from someone who swears by the scientific
method. I will know. The point is you won't and you will
still be parroting assumptions that

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

doesn't work. I will find out. Anth

======================
How will you know Anth? I can't picture a normal rational
person picking through their purged bowel contents
(diarrhea) in a toilet bowl looking

for

Quoted message said:

tiny stones or a sandlike substance. If you do or don't
find them how

will

Quoted message said:

you know if you removed them or not? Or removed all of
them? This also goes for these "parasites" no one seems to
know the names of.

In any case please wear disposable gloves if you're going
to spend time handling your feces.

Kim

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 06:47:19 -0000, "Anth" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Well apparently according to alt med folklore it comes out
with your pee.

Why do you want to take the chance that whatever you take is
going to result in your peeing out some chemical reaction
from what you ingest?? Is your judgement always this
impaired??

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To my knowledge I don't have any stones, there was
arguments raised on here that the cleanse is nothing more
than a chemical reaction in the body. I want to find out.

Let's see. You don't think you have any stones. The only
reason you are doing this cleanse is to see if it is more
than just a chemical reaction? Lord have mercy.

Aloha,

Rich

Quoted message said:

Anth

"Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:-vidnbG_R8xDX9fdRVn-
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Quoted message said:

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

The usual from someone who swears by the scientific
method. I will know. The point is you won't and you
will still be parroting assumptions that

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

doesn't work. I will find out. Anth

======================
How will you know Anth? I can't picture a normal rational
person picking through their purged bowel contents
(diarrhea) in a toilet bowl looking

for

Quoted message said:

tiny stones or a sandlike substance. If you do or don't
find them how

will

Quoted message said:

you know if you removed them or not? Or removed all of
them? This also goes for these "parasites" no one seems
to know the names of.

In any case please wear disposable gloves if you're going
to spend time handling your feces.

Kim

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The best defense to logic is ignorance

In article said:

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 06:47:19 -0000, "Anth"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

To my knowledge I don't have any stones, there was
arguments raised on here that the cleanse is nothing more
than a chemical reaction in the body. I want to find out.

Let's see. You don't think you have any stones. The only
reason you are doing this cleanse is to see if it is more
than just a chemical reaction? Lord have mercy.

Indeed. And Anth had the gall (pun intended) to take me to
task for supposedly not understanding statistics and the
scientific method. As you say, Lord have mercy....

--
Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do
|you inconvenience me with questions?"