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  1. "Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Doug Freese said:


    "JMA" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > What is an "FM pump"?

    A red, leather, 4-inch heeled shoe than when worn by the appropriate
    woman screams "F*** ME"

    Find me? Flog me? Fork me? I'm so confused. 😉

    I think it's "free me". Don't you get a tremendous sense of freedom
    when you
    kick off your 4 inch heels and change into the 20x0s ?

    Oh yes, it felt sooooooo good! Now I know what the "Big O" really means.

    -D " I love my pumps" F

  2. "DrLith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    Well, ok, perhaps it was an exaggeration. But to my inexperienced, sensitive


    little girly feet,

    I guess this is ok, if you are a LITTLE GIRLIE! So are you?

  3. FabulustRunner said:
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    Don't you get a tremendous sense of freedom when you
    kick off your 4 inch heels and change into the 20x0s ?

    I'm sure you find it very uplifting.

    Commmmmme on! There's a fine line between troll and idiot, but you're nowhere
    near it. If you want to be taken seriously as a troll, you're going to have to
    come up with better material than this "I know you are but what am I" [censored].

    --
    Donovan Rebbechi
    http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

  4. "DrLith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "MH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I really love the 2090s. My feet are high arched and narrow and it's


    hard

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    to

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    find shoes that really fit well.

    See? There ya go. You gosh-darn high-arched, narrow-feet people done gone
    and messed it up for us low-arched, wide-feet people. A pox on you!


    What, there aren't enough New Balance shoes for you? ; )

    Martha
    high ached folks need love too...

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  5. "Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    MH said:

    I really love the 2090s. My feet are high arched and narrow and it's


    hard to

    Quoted message said:
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    find shoes that really fit well.

    The 2090 is a stability shoe, you probably should be wearing a cushion


    shoe

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    unless you know you have a substantial amount of pronation. The Landreth


    is

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    similar to the 2090 but without the medial post, might be worth a look.

    All I know is that there is plenty of arch support in the 2090 and the toes
    are a nice fit, whereas other Asic models I tried were either too loose or
    not enough arch support. I've been adding up the miles in them and they feel
    great.

    I'll take a look at the Landreth though, thanks.

    Martha

  6. "FabulustRunner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    A red, leather, 4-inch heeled shoe than when worn by the appropriate


    woman

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    screams "F*** ME"

    But ALL womans shoes scream that to me.

    Now that's a lost cause. ; )

    Martha

  7. MH said:


    "Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    MH said:

    I really love the 2090s. My feet are high arched and narrow and it's


    hard to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    find shoes that really fit well.

    The 2090 is a stability shoe, you probably should be wearing a cushion
    shoe unless you know you have a substantial amount of pronation. The
    Landreth is similar to the 2090 but without the medial post, might be worth
    a look.

    All I know is that there is plenty of arch support in the 2090 and the toes
    are a nice fit, whereas other Asic models I tried were either too loose or
    not enough arch support. I've been adding up the miles in them and they feel
    great.

    Why do you want arch support ? Have you had problems with PF ? If you're
    assuming that high arches mean that you need arch supports, this is not
    correct. Generally (counterintuitively), people with high arches aren't the
    ones who are most in need of arch support. Arch support generally is for heavy
    pronators.

    http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/HQ/00885.html
    --------------
    You have a tendency toward excessive inward roll (pronation) if you have
    low-arched, or flat, feet. This common problem may be exaggerated when running.
    Choose a shoe with a firm, stable counter, good arch support and a straight
    last.
    --------------

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi
    http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

  8. Quoted message said:

    There's a fine line between troll and idiot, but you're nowhere
    near it.

    That's good?

    Quoted message said:

    If you want to be taken seriously as a troll, you're going to have to
    come up with better material than this "I know you are but what am I" [censored].

    I never said that! You set yourself up for that one.

  9. Quoted message said:

    Oh yes, it felt sooooooo good! Now I know what the "Big O" really means.

    -D " I love my pumps" F

    This place gets scarier everytime I tune in.

  10. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I really love the 2090s. My feet are high arched and narrow and it's


    hard to

    Quoted message said:

    > find shoes that really fit well.

    The 2090 is a stability shoe, you probably should be wearing a cushion
    shoe unless you know you have a substantial amount of pronation. The
    Landreth is similar to the 2090 but without the medial post, might be


    worth

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a look.

    All I know is that there is plenty of arch support in the 2090 and the


    toes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are a nice fit, whereas other Asic models I tried were either too loose


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not enough arch support. I've been adding up the miles in them and they


    feel

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    great.

    Why do you want arch support ? Have you had problems with PF ?

    PF?

    If you're

    Quoted message said:

    assuming that high arches mean that you need arch supports, this is not
    correct. Generally (counterintuitively), people with high arches aren't


    the

    Quoted message said:

    ones who are most in need of arch support. Arch support generally is for


    heavy

    Quoted message said:

    pronators.

    http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/HQ/00885.html
    --------------
    You have a tendency toward excessive inward roll (pronation) if you have
    low-arched, or flat, feet. This common problem may be exaggerated when


    running.

    Quoted message said:

    Choose a shoe with a firm, stable counter, good arch support and a


    straight

    Quoted message said:

    last.

    Well, I do not have flat feet. In fact, if you look at my footprint, it
    shows the exact opposite. So, maybe I've mixed up the terms.

    Martha

  11. MH said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > I really love the 2090s. My feet are high arched and narrow and it's
    hard to
    > > find shoes that really fit well.
    >
    > The 2090 is a stability shoe, you probably should be wearing a cushion
    > shoe unless you know you have a substantial amount of pronation. The
    > Landreth is similar to the 2090 but without the medial post, might be


    worth

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > a look.
    >

    All I know is that there is plenty of arch support in the 2090 and the


    toes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are a nice fit, whereas other Asic models I tried were either too loose


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not enough arch support. I've been adding up the miles in them and they


    feel

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    great.

    Why do you want arch support ? Have you had problems with PF ?

    PF?

    If you're

    Quoted message said:

    assuming that high arches mean that you need arch supports, this is not
    correct. Generally (counterintuitively), people with high arches aren't


    the

    Quoted message said:

    ones who are most in need of arch support. Arch support generally is for


    heavy

    Quoted message said:

    pronators.

    http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/HQ/00885.html
    --------------
    You have a tendency toward excessive inward roll (pronation) if you have
    low-arched, or flat, feet. This common problem may be exaggerated when
    running.
    Choose a shoe with a firm, stable counter, good arch support and a
    straight
    last.

    Well, I do not have flat feet. In fact, if you look at my footprint, it
    shows the exact opposite. So, maybe I've mixed up the terms.

    Sorry, the way I quoted that is confusing. The quote says "you", but clearly
    the "you" that the quote is talking about is not *you*.

    In other words, the advice -- look for arch support -- is not given to those
    with high arches.

    Here is what it says about people with high arches (this is applicable to you).
    Note that in contrast with the advice for flat footed people, arch support is
    *not* mentioned as something that the high arched person should look for.
    -------------
    With high arches, your foot will roll just the opposite way, toward the
    outside. This can cause excessive strain on joints and muscles as your foot
    fails to meet the ground properly. Find shoes with soft midsoles, curved lasts
    and low rear-foot stability. A knowledgeable salesperson can help you find the
    right shoe ? one with the proper combination of midsole cushioning, curved or
    straight last, and rear-foot stability.
    -------------

    What they are saying, to put it more plainly, is, get a cushioning shoe.

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi
    http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

  12. "FabulustRunner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    You just gotta pick the right one.

    I have.

    Oh, you patched that leak she sprang?

    Different grrl. No leaks yet.

  13. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's a long winter, what can I say? Actually there is a great 5 mile race


    on Lake Superior each winter to the Apostle Islands but I won't be ready for
    that this year. <<

    Run on the Water in Bayfield? I did it in 1999 and thought it was fun,
    interesting, and different.

    Mike

  14. "M1ahearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's a long winter, what can I say? Actually there is a great 5 mile
    race


    on Lake Superior each winter to the Apostle Islands but I won't be ready
    for
    that this year. <<

    Run on the Water in Bayfield? I did it in 1999 and thought it was
    fun,
    interesting, and different.

    Mike

    That's the one! I couldn't remember the name of it. I have some friends
    who have done it. I like doing "different" races like that when I can since
    I run for the fun and don't ever plan on actually being competitive 🙂

    Jenn

  15. MH said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>I really love the 2090s. My feet are high arched and narrow and it's

    hard to

    >>find shoes that really fit well.
    >

    Well, I do not have flat feet. In fact, if you look at my footprint, it
    shows the exact opposite. So, maybe I've mixed up the terms.

    Martha

    While some generalities you may see on the web may suggest that flat
    footed people overpronate and high arched ones supinate, the realities
    are that many people don't fit the model - and why I had a terrible time
    understanding the concept initially. I have a high arch and severely
    overpronate - as diagnosed by a Footmaxx computerized analysis in a
    chiropracter's office and visual gait analysis by a physical therapist
    experienced with this type analysis - not to mention my own observations.

    Cushioned shoes, even for walking, throw my feet into a tizzy. Motion
    control shoes, like Grid stabils, are too rigid overall for me, but they
    don't control the pronation in the forefoot area. My PT moved me from a
    control to a stability shoe (Brooks Trespass, Adrenaline) - and a ton of
    exercises to strengthen my feet and ankles. He suggested shoes with
    torsion control since I was a late overpronator. I believe the 2080s (or
    whatever number from 2 years ago) were on his list of suggested models
    for me, but the Brooks worked better for me.

    The more I learned about this apparent deviation from the model, the
    more I learned there's a lot a people out there that don't fit the model
    (have no idea whether it's a valid model or if it's like max hr
    formulas). That is, there's a lot of high-arched overpronators out
    there, and there's different causes of overpronation so there may be
    very different solutions for different people. I don't remember the arch
    having anything to do with it. The best way is to have someone look at
    the way you walk or run, rather than arch height (although obviously
    flat-footed people may have trouble in a high-arched shoe).

    YMMV, obviously.

    Dot

    --
    "The eagle, who believed he was a chicken, wasn't. However, until he
    discovered what he was, he was limited to live as one."
    -Unknown but quoted from Lisa Butler on ultra list

  16. So let me get this straight.
    If the shoe is red and leather... and 4 inches high then the
    "appropriate woman" is saying what?

    Damn... I live a sheltered life.

    Len

  17. Len A. said:

    So let me get this straight.
    If the shoe is red and leather... and 4 inches high then the
    "appropriate woman" is saying what?

    Damn... I live a sheltered life.

    Len

    Ok, I have a difficult time believing that in this worldly bunch no one
    else (women mainly) has ever heard the term F*** me
    shoes/pumps/heels... however it does go back in time a ways when
    fashions were a bit more conservative. 🙂

    Jenn

  18. JMA said:


    Ok, I have a difficult time believing that in this worldly bunch no one
    else (women mainly) has ever heard the term F*** me
    shoes/pumps/heels... however it does go back in time a ways when
    fashions were a bit more conservative. 🙂

    Here's a quote from an email I received a few years back from a lovable
    pervert that I met on Usenet:

    "I'd be happy to give you some guidance, as long as you don't mind
    wearing a pair of 6 inch heels...A pair of black or white [censored]-me heels
    should be a staple in every woman's closet."

    I guess he didn't find the color red erotic, sorry.

    HTH,
    -J

  19. jogger said:
    JMA said:


    Ok, I have a difficult time believing that in this worldly bunch no


    one

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    else (women mainly) has ever heard the term F*** me
    shoes/pumps/heels... however it does go back in time a ways when
    fashions were a bit more conservative. 🙂

    Here's a quote from an email I received a few years back from a


    lovable

    Quoted message said:

    pervert that I met on Usenet:

    "I'd be happy to give you some guidance, as long as you don't mind
    wearing a pair of 6 inch heels...A pair of black or white [censored]-me


    heels

    Quoted message said:

    should be a staple in every woman's closet."

    I guess he didn't find the color red erotic, sorry.

    HTH,
    -J

    LOL
    I guess not. I'm not really up on the exact color/height
    specifications for a true pair of f-me shoes.

    Jenn

  20. JMA said:

    I'm not really up on the exact color/height
    specifications for a true pair of f-me shoes.

    Well, "4 inch red heels" sounds F***Me to me. I thought it was funny
    that he specified the shoe color in his email, but god knows what goes
    on in boys' heads 🙂

    -J

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