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  1. I learned how to idle as John Childs suggested, going from single
    strokes to "super idling," and having gotten proficient at that, I could
    ride backward the first time I tried, and I never once UPded really
    hard. The super idling gets your brain used to working with the sort of
    reverse body english needed to ride backward--and with some modicum of
    control.

    Since I mostly enjoy Muni, and to a lesser extent, trials riding,
    extended backward riding is basically needless -- as are most freestyle
    tricks like one-foot riding and wheel walking -- but I've found these
    skills make me more comfortable on the saddle in all situations, and are
    useful to that end. Tricks -- backwards riding being one of the basics
    -- also keep the task interesting and learning fresh and exciting.
    Unless you're learning new stuff, things start to get stale.

    JL

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  2. I also learned to idle using the super-idle method, and I can assure you
    guys that it works. I didn't hurt myself doing it. I may have worn a
    helmet.

    I think that Changing Links may be a gifted athlete, I have noticed that
    people with exceptional ability can often skip steps in a normal
    mortal's learning curve. I once saw an ace skateboarder with no prior
    experience hop on a unicycle and ride forwards, backwards, and up an
    ollie ramp. I also know a juggler who learned to cascade five balls in
    well under a month, an unheard-of feat. I suspect that Changing Links
    may well be capable of doing ungodly tricks on a Coker.

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  3. carjug said:

    *I also learned to idle using the super-idle method, and I can assure
    you guys that it works. I didn't hurt myself doing it. I may have worn
    a helmet.

    I think that Changing Links may be a gifted athlete, I have noticed
    that people with exceptional ability can often skip steps in a normal
    mortal's learning curve. I once saw an ace skateboarder with no prior
    experience hop on a unicycle and ride forwards, backwards, and up an
    ollie ramp. I also know a juggler who learned to cascade five balls in
    well under a month, an unheard-of feat. I suspect that Changing Links
    may well be capable of doing ungodly tricks on a Coker.

    carjug *

    No. I ain't very good - but I have found "a way" to pick up skills
    quickly (although lately I have been slacking off). My technique is to
    simply spend 5 hours on learning a skill - focusing on the skill until I
    can do it.
    However, I don't "own" *any* skills - not even riding forwards 🙂

    My theory is that I will learn skills until I am satisfied and then get
    "good" at them. Because I ride a combination of
    distance/freeriding/off-road, I have to go out of my way to practice
    skills like going backwards, idling and one foot.

    I rode 14.4 miles today on my 24"x2.5 (Hookworm) and the thought
    occurred to me that I should practice one foot riding. However, once I
    remembered that cars were going by 3' away at 50+ mph - I chickened
    out.

    Whether it is "easier" to isolate skills until they are learned or
    incorporate other skills while learning apparently varies from rider to
    rider - just like the ability to pick up new skills.

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  4. ChangingLINKS.com said:

    *
    P.S.
    Now that I think about it, one can stop learning anything beyond Level
    3 and be awesome at riding offroad or even riding distance. Think
    about it: you can substitute the 180 degree turns for idling. The
    point is if one *masters* all of the skills in Level 3 they can do all
    of the skills that you mentioned (avoiding other people/riders, take
    breaks before cleaning challenges, etc.) AND have enough skill to play
    basketball and hockey. I find that sharp turns and sprinting are much
    more important than idling in games. Level 3 also includes the "foot
    balancing" technique needed for advanced hopping via "ride forwards,
    half rotation backwards, continue forwards." *

    You would be surprised. My muni riding and coker riding improved when I
    started working on level 4,5 & 6 freestyle skills. The freestyle skills
    teach you better balance and better control. You learn to ride using
    less of the balance envelope. You learn a smoother pedal stroke. You
    learn to put less pressure on the back pedal as you're pedaling.

    The freestyle practice got my coker riding a lot smoother. I used to be
    a bit choppy and that required that I make way more balance corrections
    than necessary. That choppiness kept my max speed and average speed
    down. It also meant that I wasn't able to relax as I rode. I was doing
    more work than necessary and putting more stress on my body than
    necessary. The freestyle practice got my riding much smoother and more
    relaxed.

    The same things helped my muni riding. My pedaling improved, my
    climbing improved, my balance improved. All aspects of my riding
    improved.

    You may not think that learning to wheel walk, ride one footed, ride
    seat out, spin, etc. are necessary skills for muni riding and Coker
    riding. But those skills do improve your overall riding. Learning how
    to pedal more smoothly and ride more efficiently makes a big difference
    when riding long distances or when riding fast. Practicing freestyle
    helps you learn the smoothness and efficiency.

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  5. YOU MAY NOT THINK THAT LEARNING TO WHEEL WALK, RIDE ONE FOOTED, RIDE
    SEAT OUT, SPIN, ETC. ARE NECESSARY SKILLS FOR MUNI RIDING AND COKER
    RIDING.
    MY MUNI RIDING AND COKER RIDING IMPROVED WHEN I STARTED WORKING ON LEVEL
    4,5 & 6 FREESTYLE SKILLS.

    I believe that riding ability will improve when practicing freestyle.
    Heck, to extend what you are saying, riding off-road improves Coker
    skill (etc.).

    My point was:
    *The point is if one *masters* all of the skills in Level 3* they *CAN*
    quit learning new skills.

    Another thing to consider is "time."
    Rider A takes one year to learn everything up to Level 7.
    Rider A took one hour of practice per day to do it (365 hours).

    Rider B is limits themselves Level 3 skills.
    Rider B practices one hour per day (365 hours).

    Rider A and Rider B race off-road (and on road) at the end of the
    year.

    Which one would win the races?
    I believe that it would be Rider B. Rider B would spend Rider A's
    wheelwalking practice time learning to sprint. B would spend A's one
    foot practice time learning to sprint off-road. Rider B would spend
    Rider A's riding backwards and 360 turn time practicing figure 8s.

    Take the same two riders and put them in a basketball game on different
    teams and I think they would probably score about the same amount of
    points. Sprinting (speed) and turning (tight figure 8s) are more
    important skills than idling, so the Level 3 rider will not lose just
    because he can't idle.

    Currently, there is a lot of pressure in the unicycling community to
    learn new skills. Seems like the Level 6-7 riders "motivate" younger
    riders to learn skills. I think this "be like me" overtone will wash out
    eventually and more people will just ride for enjoyment. I believe the
    community will split and riders will become more specialized and perfect
    the skills directly related to their core practice. There will be guys
    that can go to rubber on the hood of a car - that can't wheelwalk, glide
    or ride seat out back.

    I agree that learning freestyle skills improve overall riding ability.
    However, I do not believe that freestyle skills are *necessary* to
    improve overall riding ability. Finally, the skills do not guarantee
    better riding performance than riders that focus on the fundamental
    (Level 3) skills.

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  6. Wait, is that "super idle" the 1 and 1/2 revolution forward and backward
    thing? That sounds helpful.

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  7. Backwards for me didn't come fast......all I'd say is practice,
    practice, practice.......and then practice some more.
    I think one of the things that happens is that by the time you go to
    learn backwards you are so comfortable with forwards that you have
    almost forgotten how to really use your arms and body to stay in
    balance. Get your arms out to the sides, move 'em around, bend that
    torso, do whatever you have to do to stay over the wheel. DON'T pedal
    fast backwards when learning.....I started doing this b/c I found it was
    easier to keep my side to side balance, but I took 2 bad backwards
    spills where I couldn't get my feet underneath me b/c I was moving so
    fast. Take your time and pedal in control
    I personally learned by riding forward, stopping, and going right into
    backwards. I think that it is very important to learn to idle prior to
    attempting to learn backwards.

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  8. ChangingLINKS.com said:

    *Heck, to extend what you are saying, riding off-road riding improves
    Coker abilities, etc. (etc.).*

    That is exactly what he is saying, and many of us would believe it to be
    true.
    ChangingLINKS.com wrote:*

    Quoted message said:

    My point was:
    The point is if one *masters* all of the skills in Level 3 they *CAN*
    quit learning new skills.*

    If you are riding, it would take work to 'quit learning'.

    ChangingLINKS.com said:

    *
    Rider A and Rider B race off-road (and on road) at the end of the
    year.

    Which one would win the races? ...
    *

    Hard to say really, I'd rather hang with Rider B. But I think the racing
    record books are stacked with winners who were also top freestyle riders
    at the same time. Going fast, or slow, requires balance, the more you
    have the better off you are all the way around. This isn't something you
    can argue into a person who hasn't experienced it first hand.

    One other point about practicing a skill to get it. For example unispin.
    Many riders have learned this 'level 10' skill, making others question
    if it is in the right place. For freestyle I think it is in the right
    place. It is hard to find anything in the lower skill levels which would
    really be helped by learning this particular skill. It seems to be very
    agreeable to learning by practice. The main precursor is hopping seat
    out, and if you do that a lot, jumping off the pedals for a second while
    spinning the uni may become easy. But the difference between being able
    to do a 'level 10 skill' and being able to pass level 10 are two
    completely different things. A freestyle competition isn't going to be
    won because someone practiced their unispin for a year. And I doubt a
    racing event would be won by someone who dedicated him/herself to level
    three skills for an entire year. It is just a complete misunderstanding
    of unicycling to think otherwise.

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  9. iunicycle said:

    *And I doubt a racing event would be won by someone who dedicated
    him/herself to level three skills for an entire year. It is just a
    complete misunderstanding of unicycling to think otherwise. *

    I meant the race would be won between two 1 (or X) year old
    unicyclists.
    If you think that learning 10 skill levels will win races, you are the
    one with the misunderstanding. Think about other sports for proof.

    Think:
    1. (bmx) trials rider vs. road cyclist.
    2. 100 yard dash sprinter vs. one who runs marathons.
    3. Olympic diver vs. Olympic swimmer

    In these cases, the latter requires less balance and "freestyle" skill.
    The latter competitor in these cases will work on the basics and
    fundamentals more.

    Take notice, and you will see this works in the music industry (the most
    skilled players are usually not known by name and make less money)
    education (often the most knowledgeable people make less money are
    simply highered by those with less knowledge).

    Finally, I have one more way to help you see this concept:
    Spend one week working on ANY of the skills higher than Level 3.
    Ride one mile as fast as you can and time it.

    Spend another week working on riding as fast as you can.
    Ride one mile as fast as you can and time it.

    Which week showed the most improvement?
    (You can swap the weeks lest you think the skill level practice
    contributed to the faster time).

    I have had personal experience with this. I have seen several examples
    around here where the guy with less skills (and less unicycles) trumps
    the guy with more.

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  10. ChangingLINKS.com said:

    *

    1. (bmx) trials rider vs. road cyclist.
    ...
    In these cases, the latter requires less balance and "freestyle"
    skill. *

    Hmm, did you see Lance Armstrong last year in the Tour? When he made is
    big move which won him the race his foot came off his pedal (after he
    had already fallen). Catching himself from falling again was probably
    contributed to him winning the race. The comments at the time were
    about his unbelievable balance in that moment.

    Every sport requires balance. Every sport also requires conditioning.
    There is also innate ability associated with both of these. It is hard
    to prejudge the outcome of A and B in whatever races they enter. My
    assumption is that the difference between the riders is that one is
    practicing skills in levels 1-3, while the other is practicing skills in
    levels 1-7, and both are practicing racing. If both went to a NAUCC
    competition and entered the required "Points Races", the level 7 rider
    could concede first place on the four two-foot-on-pedals races:
    100/400/(800|1500) and the obstacle course, and would likely win the
    four other races: 1-foot, wheel-walk, slow-forward, slow-backward.
    Assuming the level three rider would be DQ'd in 1-foot and wheel walk,
    the level 7 rider would receive 4x6 + 4x8 = 56 points and the level 3
    rider would receive 4x8 + 6x2 = 44 points, and the "Riding Champion"
    would be the level 7 rider.

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  11. iunicycle said:

    HMM, DID YOU SEE LANCE ARMSTRONG LAST YEAR IN THE TOUR? WHEN HE MADE
    IS BIG MOVE WHICH WON HIM THE RACE HIS FOOT CAME OFF HIS PEDAL (AFTER
    HE HAD ALREADY FALLEN). CATCHING HIMSELF FROM FALLING AGAIN WAS
    PROBABLY CONTRIBUTED TO HIM WINNING THE RACE. THE COMMENTS AT THE
    TIME WERE ABOUT HIS UNBELIEVABLE BALANCE IN THAT MOMENT.

    You are implying that Lance practiced freestyle skills 🙂
    MAYBE he got it from all that saddle time.

    EVERY SPORT REQUIRES BALANCE.
    Sure. Sitting up requires balance.

    EVERY SPORT ALSO REQUIRES CONDITIONING.
    Sure sitting up requires conditioning.

    IF BOTH WENT TO A NAUCC COMPETITION AND ENTERED THE REQUIRED \"POINTS
    RACES\", THE LEVEL 7 RIDER [WOULD BE] THE \"RIDING CHAMPION\" WOULD BE
    THE LEVEL 7 RIDER.

    Sure. It depends on what goals the rider has and what the race is. Why
    don't you add races while you're at it:
    Methinks you forgot the "first one to demonstrate 7 types of mounts"
    race. Oh and here's an important race to win:
    "The Race to my Back Porch Race"

    Since you have more skills than I, let you "represent" highly skilled
    riders, and I will represent Level >3 riders . . . .

    Ready?
    Go.

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  12. ChangingLINKS.com said:

    Sure. It depends on what goals the rider has and what the race is.
    [/B]

    I thought your hypothetical was rider A and rider B differed only in the
    skills they practice over their first year.

    Sorry to choose races which actually are used by the USA to determine
    the Riding Champion. You said races, I thought you meant races in which
    unicyclists actually compete.

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  13. Whew!
    Ok, I am back. I won all 1000 points!

    Your responses illustrate what I was trying to communicate.
    There are guys around that think it is important to win "many" races at
    NAUCC. There are guys that get a real ego boost by being able to do one
    more meaningless trick on a unicycle. Like religious zealots, they tell
    younger riders to follow suit.

    My sole position is that skills higher than Level 3 are unecessary to be
    competitive in unicycle sports, off-road riding, distance (Coker) riding
    or even trials (I believe one can do most trials skills using riding
    forward and hopping alone).

    Since you are very interested in gliding:
    http://tinyurl.com/ytnxu
    Here's a factoid for you:
    "The guy" who won for gliding at MOAB was NOT on the Universe 2 DVD and
    I don't believe he was the one with the highest Level. I'm going to
    guess that he won not on talent, or working on Level 10 skills, but on
    practice time dedicated to gliding.

    I'm done with this thread. I am not really saying anything new.
    Oh. I have a tip for you which may help you glide better . . .
    work on your "backward pirouette."

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  14. ChangingLINKS.com said:

    *
    There are guys around that think it is important to win "many" races
    at NAUCC.
    *

    Probably there are more guys/gals that think it is _fun_ to compete in
    many races.

    I would very much like to be in the category of those who want to add
    yet another useless skill to the list, and who get an ego boost when
    that happens.

    I don't get an ego boost by chiming in on a thread discussing a skill I
    am uninterested in learning. Even if your main point is 100% valid,
    what does it have to do with learning to ride backward?

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  15. Doing a controlled study to determine if learning skills beyond level 3
    will get you to advance faster in muni, racing, and distance riding
    would not be practical. We'll have to settle for less empirical
    methods.

    I can relate my experiences. For a long time I was stagnated at about
    level 3. I was going to muni weekends. I was able to do the rides, but
    I was clearly struggling and I was never able to keep up with the faster
    riders. I was doing OK, but I was not getting much better. I was
    stagnated. I'd do lots of riding around home to get ready for the muni
    weekends and other events, but that riding didn't translate into much
    improvement in skills.

    Same thing on the Coker. I was at about level 3 when I got my Coker. I
    could ride it OK, but my riding was all choppy. I'd have to be ready to
    pedal hard to catch myself when I'd start to get too far forward in the
    balance envelope. I'd have to be ready to back pedal when I'd get too
    far back in the balance envelope. I could not ride smoothly. I'd
    practice on the Coker hoping I'd get better, but I was basically staying
    the same. I did a 35 mile ride on a flat bike trail and hated it.
    There was no way that I could have ever done a long distance ride on the
    Coker like what people were starting to do on the Uni Tours.

    I was not working on freestyle skills at that time and my skills on the
    muni and the Coker were not improving. I figured that if I just spend
    more time riding I'd get better. But in reality I was just reinforcing
    my bad riding habits.

    Once I started working on freestyle skills my muni and Coker skills
    improved. My pedaling is much more smooth. I'm able to pedal faster
    while staying in a smaller balance envelope. I'm not getting into the
    extremes of the balance envelope as I ride. That means that I can now
    sit and spin on the Coker. It means I can relax more while riding the
    muni and concentrate on maintaining pedal speed rather than making
    emergency corrections for balance. It's a world of difference and I'm a
    much better rider now.

    Would I have improved the same had I not started putting effort into
    freestyle skills? That's impossible to say. My gut feeling is no. The
    freestyle practice taught me to ride in a smaller balance envelope and
    taught me to pedal more smoothly. The time that I was stagnated at
    level 3 my riding just reinforced bad habits rather than forcing me to
    actually improve my skills.

    The vast majority of the people who are doing the long distance riding
    and who can ride fast are all very good freestyle riders. There are a
    few exceptions, but for the most part the fast riders have some
    freestyle skills. At nationals the riders who are faster than me have
    more freestyle skills than me. At the muni weekends the riders who are
    faster than me own more freestyle skills than me. For example, they can
    glide, they can wheel walk much better than I can. One exception I can
    think of is Lars Clausen who did the Coker ride across the US. I don't
    think he's an accomplished freestyle rider, yet he's able to pedal his
    Coker smoothly and quickly. But for the most part, the riders who are
    fast at muni and/or Coker riding are also accomplished at freestyle
    skills.

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  16. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THE RIDERS WHO ARE FAST AT MUNI AND/OR COKER
    RIDING ARE ALSO ACCOMPLISHED AT FREESTYLE SKILLS.

    Practice time is not not equal.
    Those how have a lot of skills spend more time practicing.
    I believe you would have gotten better by spending the same amount of
    time focusing on getting better at riding. I don't think you would have
    compounded bad habits. Like in all other things, practice makes
    perfect.
    Taking your theory further, you should *currently* HOLD OFF riding
    distance and off-road until you have picked up more freestyle skills -
    otherwise you will compound the bad habits you currently have.

    EVEN IF YOUR MAIN POINT IS 100% VALID, WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH
    LEARNING TO RIDE BACKWARD?
    Read the thread from the beginning . . . my position was in opposition
    to this statement: "The *easiest* and safest way to learn to ride
    backwards is to start and end with an idle." (The thread evolved to a
    dispute over the "need" to use higher level skills to improve lower
    level skills.)

    I am simply saying that one can learn to go backwards without using any
    higher level skills. The easiest way to learn would not be mounting into
    a glide, dropping into an idle and attempting to peddle backwards. It
    would be to mount, lean back and push off with the dominant foot.
    Likewise, the easiest way to learn to go forwards is sans idling.

    By now, the original poster should be able to ride backwards 🙂

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  17. john_childs said:

    Once I started working on freestyle skills my muni and Coker skills
    improved. My pedaling is much more smooth. I'm able to pedal faster
    while staying in a smaller balance envelope. I'm not getting into the
    extremes of the balance envelope as I ride. That means that I can now
    sit and spin on the Coker. It means I can relax more while riding the
    muni and concentrate on maintaining pedal speed rather than making
    emergency corrections for balance. It's a world of difference and I'm a
    much better rider now.

    This makes a world of sense to me. Unless I push my balance by
    working on core freestyle skills, I am bound to waste energy and ride
    closer to the edge of falling. The reason this happens is partly lack
    of precision, but more importantly a technical blind spot.

    Here's an example of what I mean. Take one footed riding. The
    ability to ride one footed allows you to ride without wasting energy
    pressing on the back pedal. Bicycle racers know all about this - they
    work hard on a "round" pedalling stroke - but this skill is hard to
    translate to unicycling. I think it is easy to see how a rider who
    practices one-footed skills would make quicker progress in improving
    efficiency.

    As for idling and ridiung backwards, I simply can't relate to riders
    who say they aren't interested in these skills. The feeling of
    control I have now that I can idle reliably (and ride backwards a
    little) is a huge improvement over forwards only (or forwards &
    hopping) riding.

    Lastly, I'd like to mention that I'm a bit baffled by ChangingLinks'
    tenacity on this issue - it looks like every other article is his.
    I'd expect him to be interested in the opinions of more experienced
    riders. Asking questions might elicit better responses (at least in
    the long run) than overt arguing in a situation like this.

    Ken

  18. ChangingLINKS.com said:


    READ THE THREAD FROM THE BEGINNING . . . MY POSITION WAS IN OPPOSITION
    TO THIS STATEMENT: \"THE *EASIEST* AND SAFEST WAY TO LEARN TO RIDE
    BACKWARDS IS TO START AND END WITH AN IDLE.\"
    ...
    I AM SIMPLY SAYING THAT ONE CAN LEARN TO GO BACKWARDS WITHOUT USING
    ANY HIGHER LEVEL SKILLS. THE EASIEST WAY TO LEARN ... IT WOULD BE TO
    MOUNT, LEAN BACK AND PUSH OFF WITH THE DOMINANT FOOT.

    For the average rider it appears to be easier to learn to idle. If you
    can idle, that gives you a simple 'new way' to begin to learn to ride
    backward. I've mentioned a few others, including the way I learned,
    which was before I could idle: I rode forward, stopped and tried to go
    backward. I didn't make any attempt to stop, so I'm very good at
    dismounting backward. I've also never had a major fall while learning
    backward riding. I would just backup in my driveway until I either lost
    balance, or ran into the garage door. I always wondered if I would ever
    lose balance and fall into the door, but I didn't.

    I'm not sure if mounting directly into backward riding is easier or
    harder than first learning to idle, but it is another way to try,
    especially if you don't know how to idle.

    But the "easiest and safest" way to learn backward riding is probably
    along a wall, or with the help of a friend or two. This is just my
    opinion, but usually the transition into and out of a skill is much
    harder than the skill itself. The problem is learning the skill
    efficiently and with low risk of injury. Some skills are wall
    compatible. The problem is usually finding a wall to practice along.
    Practicing with a friend that can provide support while you get the feel
    of what riding backward is like is also a great option.

    To increase safety, try to find a gym with a wood floor. Falling on wood
    can hurt, but usually it wears off in minutes and doesn't leave scrapes
    or cuts.

    The wall/friend advice applies to many skills: forward, backward,
    wheel-walk, 1-foot wheel-walk, backward wheel-walk. I never tried a
    wall for 1-foot riding or bwd 1-foot, these tend to be more momentum
    skills, you can't just stop in any position. The friend idea might work
    for momentum skills, and if you belong to a club, some skills are good
    to practice in pairs, with your friend on a unicycle. So friends and
    walls are probably the most efficient and safest ways to learn certain
    riding skills.

    If you have a friend, use your friend. If you are a loner like I am,
    find a good wall (or fence), with a flat level surface, close to your
    house. A hallway is also a good place, although walls, and doorway
    molding, tend to suffer pretty quickly.

    The friend idea is also a great way to trick you best non-unicycling
    friend into trying it out. Once they become the coach, and objectify the
    process of learning by observing you learn, they might just want to try
    it out on their own. One other hint on using a friend: lend them a pair
    of soccer shin guards.

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  19. Ken Cline said:

    *Lastly, I'd like to mention that I'm a bit baffled by ChangingLinks'
    tenacity on this issue - it looks like every other article is his. I'd
    expect him to be interested in the opinions of more experienced
    riders. Asking questions might elicit better responses (at least in
    the long run) than overt arguing in a situation like this.
    *

    He may change his opinion later. I used to think that it wasn't
    necessary to learn what I considered advanced freestyle skills if I was
    interested in muni. But I've since changed my opinion on that.

    In unicycling it's usually more skills rather than more fitness that
    makes you a faster and smoother rider. Brute force and fitness only
    gets you so far. Skill and technique will often get you much farther.
    Freestyle teaches you that skill and technique.

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  20. i found that finding a nice big piece of ashphalt works. i prefer to
    ride while looking down at the cranks i dont know why this helps but it
    does
    get very used to riding forwards while having your eyes shut

    its important to find quite place while ur learning riding backwards!!

    BUngLE

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    So many people ask me "if i can ride that thing?" and i say "no i just
    push it round for fun!"
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