On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:56:08 +0000, Jonathan Bond wrote:
> Pete Fagerlin wrote:
>> "Jonathan Bond" <
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>> |
>> | Pete Fagerlin wrote:
>> | > "Jonathan Bond" <
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>> | >
>> | > <snip>
>> | >
>> | > | Or how about a copy of notepad and learn how to actually write HTML?
>> | > |
>> | > | Jon "Commander Purist" Bond
>> | >
>> | > Why limit yourself to HTML? Why waste the time to learn HTML from
>> scratch
>> | > unless you're going to be doing web design for a living?
>> | >
>> | > Bring on the web design software if it makes better looking/better functioning/more
>> | > interesting/richer web pages
>> | >
>> | > --
>> | > Pete "Commander Realist" Fagerlin
>> | >
>> | >
http://www.petefagerlin.com
>> | >
>> | >
>> | >
>> | I should have said DHTML... javascript, VBscript, CSS, all those fun things.
>> |
>> | I haven't made a webpage in a while, but I made some pretty frickin' nice ones with notepad.
>> | Sure, I had to look a lot of stuff up, borrow javascripts from websites
>> | (www.javascriptsource.com, www.bratta.com and the like), etc., but learning to use HTML lets
>> | you know its capabilities and its limits. You know what is possible, and what you'll have to
>> | use shockwave, java, or a similar object for, what you can't do at all, and what you can write
>> | a sweet, streamlined, small, quick DHTML file for.
>>
>> Why bother when Dreamweaver does it for you, in a much more compact and clean manner?
>>
>> | THEN, if you want, you can use dreamweaver or any of those.
>>
>> Why wait?
>>
>>
> I'm just being argumentative tonight because I've been programming VBA for the past 5 hours.
I can sympathise with that - I've been working on some php [
http://www.php.net] classes for a cross
timezone web site today... Australia has been problematic with 4 timezones, some of which are half
an hour (!) and their daylight saving starts / stops on a different date each year in each state.
(well, the states that use DST anyway).
I agree with you that the best way to produce a web site is to write the html in a text editor. This
usually forces you to think about the structure and accessability of the information before you
start to get too involved with the graphic design. If you know the html / css standards well, it
will also let you write much better html than frontpage (ugh!) or even dreamweaver will.
I use bluefish [
http://bluefish.openoffice.nl] for html and anjuata / emacs for php coding.
Don't think that bluefish is available for windows, but I'm sure there will be a good
alternative out there.
Good luck,
Sam.
PS. Unashamed plug for recent web site I did for the Hong Kong MTB assoc [
http://www.hkmba.org]. It
has a PHP / MySQL (ugh!) backend if you are interested in the details.
> Hey, BTW, mind if I use one of your pictures at the top of my spreadsheet for my intro to
> engineering final project (the VBA thing, I built a semi-automated, auto-compatibility check bike
> builder deal thats actually semi-decent).
>
> Jon "Commander" Bond
>
>
>> --
>> Pete Fagerlin
>>
>>
http://www.petefagerlin.com
>>
>
I'll have a plush fully to get that tension out tho... and I've got a punching bag in
