Breathing suggestions...

"The Bill Rodgers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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JJ said:

"Miss Anne Thrope" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Is it mean spirited to suggest that you stop altogether?

Yes, and not very imaginative either. <plonk> JJ

MEOOOOOOOOW! (cat fight)

Naw...just fell to temptation and fed the troll...Please forgive me! JJ

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"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote

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You won't get enough air breathing in through your nose unless you're
running
very slowly. Try and maintain a 3 steps in 3 steps out breathing rhythm.

Donovan, this is quite individual. The average 32-38 minute 10k runner I
know breathes a 4 step rhythm (2in, 2out or 3in 1out) at a mild pace, and
switches to 3 step at higher speeds.

If 6 step is typical for you at training pace ~7:30, you may be an
exception -- only one of my dozen or so training buddies (a 34 min guy) ran
3 in/3 out at normal speeds.

David G, if you're listening, how do you breathe at training pace
(presumably 6-something pace) and when doing a 10k?

Back to the original poster's message, beginners really don't know how to
breathe enough, and it's a dead giveaway. If some runner passes me up a
steep hill and he isn't breathing hard, I know he's a) an elite Kenyan or
b) way over his head and I'm gonna have some fun.

Also, I've always belly breathed, it's just the best way to completely fill
your lungs. Actually, I expand my belly (diaphram) *and* raise my chest,
filling all lung lobes at the same time. I thought most people figured that
out after they'd been running awhile.

I stopped getting stitches when I got more comfortable belly-breathing,
after I'd been running 6 months or so.

-- Dan

Dan Stumpus said:

"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote

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You won't get enough air breathing in through your nose unless you're
running
very slowly. Try and maintain a 3 steps in 3 steps out breathing rhythm.

Donovan, this is quite individual.

Yes, I understand that. My point is that he should be able to maintain 3/3.
If he needs more than that, he's going too fast.

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The average 32-38 minute 10k runner I
know breathes a 4 step rhythm (2in, 2out or 3in 1out) at a mild pace, and

Fine, but I bet the same runner would be capable of dropping to 3/3.

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switches to 3 step at higher speeds.

If 6 step is typical for you at training pace ~7:30, you may be an
exception --

How slow would they have to be going to drop below a 2/2 ? My guess is
that they'd stick with a 2/2 even if they were jogging at 12 minutes
per mile (see below).

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only one of my dozen or so training buddies (a 34 min guy) ran
3 in/3 out at normal speeds.

I think a lot of people may find 2/2 more natural. I don't think they're doing
that because they are unable to hold a 3/3 rhythm at training pace. I also
don't think it hurts to get familiar with a 3/3 rhythm.

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Also, I've always belly breathed, it's just the best way to completely fill

I got a good lesson in belly breathing when I broke a rib. Heaving your
chest is just uncomofortable under those circumstances.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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David G, if you're listening, how do you breathe at training pace
(presumably 6-something pace) and when doing a 10k?

I haven't ever been too cognizant of my breathing rhythms, except that
sometimes when I'm running alone I hear my breathing fall in pattern with my
stride. And now that I'm out of shape it's much louder. I mostly focus on
good posture and relaxing as much as possible.

Dave

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As I knew you would.

Yup...you got me...

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TBR

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TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."