Bulking Up Meals - Mushrooms

Discussion in 'Food and nutrition' started by jbuch, Sep 5, 2005.

  1. jbuch

    jbuch Guest

    Recently I really noticed that a two egg omelet with five sliced
    mushrooms (sauteed in garlic flavored olive oil) really was twice the
    volume of just the two egg omelet.

    Then I found:

    http://www.annecollins.com/diet_nutrition/mushrooms.htm
    > Mushrooms
    > Diet Nutrition
    >
    > Mushrooms are a treasure trove of nutrients. They are one of the few good sources of vitamin B12 - very important for vegetarians and vegans. In addition, mushrooms are rich in potassium and phosphorous as well as protein and fiber. They are also exceptionally low in calories.
    >
    > Some research shows that the phytochemicals lentinan and canthxanthin in shiitake mushrooms can help to prevent cancer.
    >
    > Calories in Mushrooms:
    > 4 oz/100g = 13 calories


    Sauteed mushrooms (with or without flavored olive oil/butter) make
    excellent bulking (volume increasing) additions to dishes which have
    short cooking times.

    They also make good bulking additions to slow cooked dishes such as beef
    stew if they are added at the very last minute before serving.

    Salads bulk up nicely with mushrooms plain or lightly sauteed in
    flavored oil.

    Thirty years ago, when Atkins was just beginning the first go-round, I
    thought of trying to devise an artificial food that would have volume
    and no calories.

    Nature has created at least one food with lots of volume, few
    carbs/calories and even some nice nutrients... mushrooms.


    For many, this is probably old hat.

    For those who can't yet EAT LESS .... this may be a temporary aid to
    weight loss.


    1) EAT TILL SATISFIED, NOT STUFFED (Atkins repeats this) Eat Less
    2) EXERCISE IS NON-NEGOTIABLE Atkins chapter title
    3) DON'T EVEN THINK OF DOING ATKINS WITHOUT SUPPLEMENTS Atkins chapter title
    4) SENSIBLE EATING PLAN ... such as the one in Atkins book, but many
    other eating plans will probably work IF YOU DO STEPS 1 to 3.


    SENSIBLE EATING PLANS???
    The Consumer Report survey of (self reported) successful dieters claims
    that most successful dieters invent their own diets and don't
    particularly follow or read any of the currently fashionable diets.


    Jim
     
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  2. Roger Zoul

    Roger Zoul Guest

    jbuch <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote:
    :> Recently I really noticed that a two egg omelet with five sliced
    :> mushrooms (sauteed in garlic flavored olive oil) really was twice the
    :> volume of just the two egg omelet.
    :>
    :> Then I found:
    :>
    :> http://www.annecollins.com/diet_nutrition/mushrooms.htm
    :> > Mushrooms
    :>> Diet Nutrition
    :>>
    :>> Mushrooms are a treasure trove of nutrients. They are one of the
    :>> few good sources of vitamin B12 - very important for vegetarians
    :>> and vegans. In addition, mushrooms are rich in potassium and
    :>> phosphorous as well as protein and fiber. They are also
    :>> exceptionally low in calories.
    :>>
    :>> Some research shows that the phytochemicals lentinan and
    :>> canthxanthin in shiitake mushrooms can help to prevent cancer.
    :>>
    :>> Calories in Mushrooms:
    :>> 4 oz/100g = 13 calories
    :>
    :> Sauteed mushrooms (with or without flavored olive oil/butter) make
    :> excellent bulking (volume increasing) additions to dishes which have
    :> short cooking times.
    :>
    :> They also make good bulking additions to slow cooked dishes such as
    :> beef
    :> stew if they are added at the very last minute before serving.
    :>
    :> Salads bulk up nicely with mushrooms plain or lightly sauteed in
    :> flavored oil.
    :>
    :> Thirty years ago, when Atkins was just beginning the first go-round,
    :> I
    :> thought of trying to devise an artificial food that would have volume
    :> and no calories.

    typical of you, jimbo... :)

    :>
    :> Nature has created at least one food with lots of volume, few
    :> carbs/calories and even some nice nutrients... mushrooms.
    :>

    Nature created lots of foods like this....we mostly think of these as the
    low carb veggies...broccoli, caulifower, etc.


    :>
    :> For many, this is probably old hat.
    :>
    :> For those who can't yet EAT LESS .... this may be a temporary aid to
    :> weight loss.
    :>
    :>
    :> 1) EAT TILL SATISFIED, NOT STUFFED (Atkins repeats this) Eat Less
    :> 2) EXERCISE IS NON-NEGOTIABLE Atkins chapter title
    :> 3) DON'T EVEN THINK OF DOING ATKINS WITHOUT SUPPLEMENTS Atkins
    :> chapter title 4) SENSIBLE EATING PLAN ... such as the one in Atkins
    :> book, but many
    :> other eating plans will probably work IF YOU DO STEPS 1 to 3.
    :>
    :>
    :> SENSIBLE EATING PLANS???
    :> The Consumer Report survey of (self reported) successful dieters
    :> claims
    :> that most successful dieters invent their own diets and don't
    :> particularly follow or read any of the currently fashionable diets.
    :>
    :>

    Good points, jimbo.
     
  3. Sherman

    Sherman Guest

    I like the idea.

    I'm looking for a 900 calorie a day diet that can sustain me for
    years, yet be filling and nutritious.

    Suggestions?



    On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 10:42:50 -0500, jbuch
    <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote:

    >Recently I really noticed that a two egg omelet with five sliced
    >mushrooms (sauteed in garlic flavored olive oil) really was twice the
    >volume of just the two egg omelet.
    >
    >Then I found:
    >
    >http://www.annecollins.com/diet_nutrition/mushrooms.htm
    > > Mushrooms
    >> Diet Nutrition
    >>
    >> Mushrooms are a treasure trove of nutrients. They are one of the few good sources of vitamin B12 - very important for vegetarians and vegans. In addition, mushrooms are rich in potassium and phosphorous as well as protein and fiber. They are also exceptionally low in calories.
    >>
    >> Some research shows that the phytochemicals lentinan and canthxanthin in shiitake mushrooms can help to prevent cancer.
    >>
    >> Calories in Mushrooms:
    >> 4 oz/100g = 13 calories

    >
    >Sauteed mushrooms (with or without flavored olive oil/butter) make
    >excellent bulking (volume increasing) additions to dishes which have
    >short cooking times.
    >
    >They also make good bulking additions to slow cooked dishes such as beef
    >stew if they are added at the very last minute before serving.
    >
    >Salads bulk up nicely with mushrooms plain or lightly sauteed in
    >flavored oil.
    >
    >Thirty years ago, when Atkins was just beginning the first go-round, I
    >thought of trying to devise an artificial food that would have volume
    >and no calories.
    >
    >Nature has created at least one food with lots of volume, few
    >carbs/calories and even some nice nutrients... mushrooms.
    >
    >
    >For many, this is probably old hat.
    >
    >For those who can't yet EAT LESS .... this may be a temporary aid to
    >weight loss.
    >
    >
    >1) EAT TILL SATISFIED, NOT STUFFED (Atkins repeats this) Eat Less
    >2) EXERCISE IS NON-NEGOTIABLE Atkins chapter title
    >3) DON'T EVEN THINK OF DOING ATKINS WITHOUT SUPPLEMENTS Atkins chapter title
    >4) SENSIBLE EATING PLAN ... such as the one in Atkins book, but many
    >other eating plans will probably work IF YOU DO STEPS 1 to 3.
    >
    >
    >SENSIBLE EATING PLANS???
    >The Consumer Report survey of (self reported) successful dieters claims
    >that most successful dieters invent their own diets and don't
    >particularly follow or read any of the currently fashionable diets.
    >
    >
    >Jim
     
  4. In article <[email protected]>,
    Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > I like the idea.
    >
    > I'm looking for a 900 calorie a day diet that can sustain me for
    > years, yet be filling and nutritious.
    >
    > Suggestions?


    You can eat a lot of bulky low carb veggies, easily...
    Just watch that you don't become protein deficient.

    If you consume 100 grams of protein per day, that's sufficient and about
    400 calories.

    That leaves you 500 calories for essential fatty acids and bulk veggies.

    You need 20 grams of (good) fats per day, that's another 180 calories.

    So, thats 580 leaving you 320 for lettuce, cabbages, choys, mushrooms,
    brocolli, cauliflower, spinach and other greens.

    It can be done, it'll just take some research and care. :)

    Good luck!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
     
  5. None Given

    None Given Guest

    "jbuch" <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Recently I really noticed that a two egg omelet with five sliced
    > mushrooms (sauteed in garlic flavored olive oil) really was twice the
    > volume of just the two egg omelet.



    I must have done something wrong, when I tried an omelet with mushrooms in
    it they were tough. Maybe I overdid the sautéing or something.

    --
    No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes
     
  6. Nicky

    Nicky Guest

    "jbuch" <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Recently I really noticed that a two egg omelet with five sliced mushrooms
    > (sauteed in garlic flavored olive oil) really was twice the volume of just
    > the two egg omelet.


    And they're free just now : ) Most days, I'm coming home with a couple of
    field mushrooms or a boletus or two.

    Nicky.

    --
    A1c 10.5/5.6/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
    1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
    95/74/72Kg
     
  7. In article <[email protected]>,
    "Nicky" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "jbuch" <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Recently I really noticed that a two egg omelet with five sliced mushrooms
    > > (sauteed in garlic flavored olive oil) really was twice the volume of just
    > > the two egg omelet.

    >
    > And they're free just now : ) Most days, I'm coming home with a couple of
    > field mushrooms or a boletus or two.
    >
    > Nicky.


    Providing you know enough to identify them..... ;-D
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
     
  8. jbuch

    jbuch Guest

    Roger Zoul wrote:
    > jbuch <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote:
    > :> Recently I really noticed that a two egg omelet with five sliced
    > :> mushrooms (sauteed in garlic flavored olive oil) really was twice the
    > :> volume of just the two egg omelet.
    > :>
    > :> Then I found:
    > :>
    > :> http://www.annecollins.com/diet_nutrition/mushrooms.htm
    > :> > Mushrooms
    > :>> Diet Nutrition
    > :>>
    > :>> Mushrooms are a treasure trove of nutrients. They are one of the
    > :>> few good sources of vitamin B12 - very important for vegetarians
    > :>> and vegans. In addition, mushrooms are rich in potassium and
    > :>> phosphorous as well as protein and fiber. They are also
    > :>> exceptionally low in calories.
    > :>>
    > :>> Some research shows that the phytochemicals lentinan and
    > :>> canthxanthin in shiitake mushrooms can help to prevent cancer.
    > :>>
    > :>> Calories in Mushrooms:
    > :>> 4 oz/100g = 13 calories
    > :>
    > :> Sauteed mushrooms (with or without flavored olive oil/butter) make
    > :> excellent bulking (volume increasing) additions to dishes which have
    > :> short cooking times.
    > :>
    > :> They also make good bulking additions to slow cooked dishes such as
    > :> beef
    > :> stew if they are added at the very last minute before serving.
    > :>
    > :> Salads bulk up nicely with mushrooms plain or lightly sauteed in
    > :> flavored oil.
    > :>
    > :> Thirty years ago, when Atkins was just beginning the first go-round,
    > :> I
    > :> thought of trying to devise an artificial food that would have volume
    > :> and no calories.
    >
    > typical of you, jimbo... :)
    >


    The really odd thing about that ....

    I finished graduate school on little money and occasional "Weenie Water
    Gravy" meals at the end of the month. So I was about 130 to 140 lbs at
    5' 6" on a heavy bone frame.

    Diet for thinness was not a personal issue or concern.

    The US Air Force Ballistic Missile Division was abandoning the idea of
    advanced ceramic materials as thermal protection of nuclear weapons
    against the intense fire heat of reentry...... and there were a lot of
    very inert ceramic oxide powders lying around.

    When you mixed the ceramic powders with water, you could end up with a
    slurry misture which resembled mashed potatos. The powders were so small
    (less than 0.5 microns - smaller than almost any cell in the human body)
    and so smooth that they should simply pass through the body with no
    interaction with the biological environment.

    These powders were exceptionally inert, in a chemical sense, so that
    even when white hot, they would not react with any normal atmospheric
    constituents.

    Management was both delighted that I had suggested an avenue of further
    civilian use of this high technology and horrified that it was
    something as mundane as simply inert bulk for dieters.

    "Thanks, but no thanks"

    Perhaps there is still a chance to become a millionaire..... selling
    things like:

    The Totally Inert Diet.
    You Can't Digest This Diet.
    The Aerospace Diet.
    The New Ceramic Age Diet.
    Inert Bulk for Intert Bulky People Diet.
    The Modern Clay Diet- The next step up from stone age eating.
    Don't Eat Everything on the Plate.... Eat The Plate instead, New Diet
    Tecgnology.

    Even weapons technology can be "fun", if you let it be.
     
  9. Roger Zoul

    Roger Zoul Guest

    jbuch wrote:
    :: Roger Zoul wrote:
    ::: jbuch <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote:
    ::::: Recently I really noticed that a two egg omelet with five sliced
    ::::: mushrooms (sauteed in garlic flavored olive oil) really was twice
    ::::: the volume of just the two egg omelet.
    :::::
    ::::: Then I found:
    :::::
    ::::: http://www.annecollins.com/diet_nutrition/mushrooms.htm
    ::::: > Mushrooms
    :::::: Diet Nutrition
    ::::::
    :::::: Mushrooms are a treasure trove of nutrients. They are one of the
    :::::: few good sources of vitamin B12 - very important for vegetarians
    :::::: and vegans. In addition, mushrooms are rich in potassium and
    :::::: phosphorous as well as protein and fiber. They are also
    :::::: exceptionally low in calories.
    ::::::
    :::::: Some research shows that the phytochemicals lentinan and
    :::::: canthxanthin in shiitake mushrooms can help to prevent cancer.
    ::::::
    :::::: Calories in Mushrooms:
    :::::: 4 oz/100g = 13 calories
    :::::
    ::::: Sauteed mushrooms (with or without flavored olive oil/butter) make
    ::::: excellent bulking (volume increasing) additions to dishes which
    ::::: have short cooking times.
    :::::
    ::::: They also make good bulking additions to slow cooked dishes such
    ::::: as beef
    ::::: stew if they are added at the very last minute before serving.
    :::::
    ::::: Salads bulk up nicely with mushrooms plain or lightly sauteed in
    ::::: flavored oil.
    :::::
    ::::: Thirty years ago, when Atkins was just beginning the first
    ::::: go-round, I
    ::::: thought of trying to devise an artificial food that would have
    ::::: volume and no calories.
    :::
    ::: typical of you, jimbo... :)
    :::
    ::
    :: The really odd thing about that ....
    ::
    :: I finished graduate school on little money and occasional "Weenie
    :: Water Gravy" meals at the end of the month. So I was about 130 to
    :: 140 lbs at 5' 6" on a heavy bone frame.
    ::
    :: Diet for thinness was not a personal issue or concern.
    ::
    :: The US Air Force Ballistic Missile Division was abandoning the idea
    :: of advanced ceramic materials as thermal protection of nuclear
    :: weapons against the intense fire heat of reentry...... and there
    :: were a lot of very inert ceramic oxide powders lying around.
    ::
    :: When you mixed the ceramic powders with water, you could end up with
    :: a slurry misture which resembled mashed potatos. The powders were so
    :: small (less than 0.5 microns - smaller than almost any cell in the
    :: human body) and so smooth that they should simply pass through the
    :: body with no interaction with the biological environment.
    ::
    :: These powders were exceptionally inert, in a chemical sense, so that
    :: even when white hot, they would not react with any normal atmospheric
    :: constituents.
    ::
    :: Management was both delighted that I had suggested an avenue of
    :: further civilian use of this high technology and horrified that it
    :: was something as mundane as simply inert bulk for dieters.
    ::
    :: "Thanks, but no thanks"
    ::
    :: Perhaps there is still a chance to become a millionaire..... selling
    :: things like:
    ::
    :: The Totally Inert Diet.
    :: You Can't Digest This Diet.
    :: The Aerospace Diet.
    :: The New Ceramic Age Diet.
    :: Inert Bulk for Intert Bulky People Diet.
    :: The Modern Clay Diet- The next step up from stone age eating.
    :: Don't Eat Everything on the Plate.... Eat The Plate instead, New Diet
    :: Tecgnology.
    ::
    :: Even weapons technology can be "fun", if you let it be.

    :)
     
  10. In article <[email protected]>,
    jbuch <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote:

    > Recently I really noticed that a two egg omelet with five sliced
    > mushrooms (sauteed in garlic flavored olive oil) really was twice the
    > volume of just the two egg omelet.
    >
    > Then I found:
    >
    > http://www.annecollins.com/diet_nutrition/mushrooms.htm
    > > Mushrooms
    > > Diet Nutrition
    > >
    > > Mushrooms are a treasure trove of nutrients. They are one of the few good
    > > sources of vitamin B12 - very important for vegetarians and vegans. In
    > > addition, mushrooms are rich in potassium and phosphorous as well as
    > > protein and fiber. They are also exceptionally low in calories.
    > >
    > > Some research shows that the phytochemicals lentinan and canthxanthin in
    > > shiitake mushrooms can help to prevent cancer.
    > >
    > > Calories in Mushrooms:
    > > 4 oz/100g = 13 calories

    >
    > Sauteed mushrooms (with or without flavored olive oil/butter) make
    > excellent bulking (volume increasing) additions to dishes which have
    > short cooking times.
    >
    > They also make good bulking additions to slow cooked dishes such as beef
    > stew if they are added at the very last minute before serving.
    >
    > Salads bulk up nicely with mushrooms plain or lightly sauteed in
    > flavored oil.
    >
    > Thirty years ago, when Atkins was just beginning the first go-round, I
    > thought of trying to devise an artificial food that would have volume
    > and no calories.
    >
    > Nature has created at least one food with lots of volume, few
    > carbs/calories and even some nice nutrients... mushrooms.
    >
    >
    > For many, this is probably old hat.


    For some... :)

    Mushrooms I believe are a vast unexplored avenue for some folks.
    Very low in calories and the cell walls are made of chitin, not
    cellulose so those with a sensitivity to high cellulose foods can do
    well with mushrooms.

    And there are getting to be more varieties of them for sale.

    They can also be easily cultivated!

    They are a wealth of low calorie nutrition. I've studied mushroom
    cultivation due to my love of shitakes and oyster mushrooms (more
    expensive than just the regular ones at the store) and have been amazed
    at what I discovered.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
     
  11. In article <[email protected]>,
    jbuch <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote:

    > Roger Zoul wrote:
    > > jbuch <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote:
    > > :> Recently I really noticed that a two egg omelet with five sliced
    > > :> mushrooms (sauteed in garlic flavored olive oil) really was twice the
    > > :> volume of just the two egg omelet.
    > > :>
    > > :> Then I found:
    > > :>
    > > :> http://www.annecollins.com/diet_nutrition/mushrooms.htm
    > > :> > Mushrooms
    > > :>> Diet Nutrition
    > > :>>
    > > :>> Mushrooms are a treasure trove of nutrients. They are one of the
    > > :>> few good sources of vitamin B12 - very important for vegetarians
    > > :>> and vegans. In addition, mushrooms are rich in potassium and
    > > :>> phosphorous as well as protein and fiber. They are also
    > > :>> exceptionally low in calories.
    > > :>>
    > > :>> Some research shows that the phytochemicals lentinan and
    > > :>> canthxanthin in shiitake mushrooms can help to prevent cancer.
    > > :>>
    > > :>> Calories in Mushrooms:
    > > :>> 4 oz/100g = 13 calories
    > > :>
    > > :> Sauteed mushrooms (with or without flavored olive oil/butter) make
    > > :> excellent bulking (volume increasing) additions to dishes which have
    > > :> short cooking times.
    > > :>
    > > :> They also make good bulking additions to slow cooked dishes such as
    > > :> beef
    > > :> stew if they are added at the very last minute before serving.
    > > :>
    > > :> Salads bulk up nicely with mushrooms plain or lightly sauteed in
    > > :> flavored oil.
    > > :>
    > > :> Thirty years ago, when Atkins was just beginning the first go-round,
    > > :> I
    > > :> thought of trying to devise an artificial food that would have volume
    > > :> and no calories.
    > >
    > > typical of you, jimbo... :)
    > >

    >
    > The really odd thing about that ....
    >
    > I finished graduate school on little money and occasional "Weenie Water
    > Gravy" meals at the end of the month. So I was about 130 to 140 lbs at
    > 5' 6" on a heavy bone frame.
    >
    > Diet for thinness was not a personal issue or concern.
    >
    > The US Air Force Ballistic Missile Division was abandoning the idea of
    > advanced ceramic materials as thermal protection of nuclear weapons
    > against the intense fire heat of reentry...... and there were a lot of
    > very inert ceramic oxide powders lying around.
    >
    > When you mixed the ceramic powders with water, you could end up with a
    > slurry misture which resembled mashed potatos. The powders were so small
    > (less than 0.5 microns - smaller than almost any cell in the human body)
    > and so smooth that they should simply pass through the body with no
    > interaction with the biological environment.
    >
    > These powders were exceptionally inert, in a chemical sense, so that
    > even when white hot, they would not react with any normal atmospheric
    > constituents.
    >
    > Management was both delighted that I had suggested an avenue of further
    > civilian use of this high technology and horrified that it was
    > something as mundane as simply inert bulk for dieters.
    >
    > "Thanks, but no thanks"
    >
    > Perhaps there is still a chance to become a millionaire..... selling
    > things like:
    >
    > The Totally Inert Diet.
    > You Can't Digest This Diet.
    > The Aerospace Diet.
    > The New Ceramic Age Diet.
    > Inert Bulk for Intert Bulky People Diet.
    > The Modern Clay Diet- The next step up from stone age eating.
    > Don't Eat Everything on the Plate.... Eat The Plate instead, New Diet
    > Tecgnology.
    >
    > Even weapons technology can be "fun", if you let it be.


    You know, if you were able to actually get something like this to taste
    good and could effectively market it, you'd be a millionare overnight...

    ;-D
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
     
  12. Nicky

    Nicky Guest

    "jbuch" <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > The Totally Inert Diet.
    > You Can't Digest This Diet.
    > The Aerospace Diet.
    > The New Ceramic Age Diet.
    > Inert Bulk for Intert Bulky People Diet.
    > The Modern Clay Diet- The next step up from stone age eating.
    > Don't Eat Everything on the Plate.... Eat The Plate instead, New Diet
    > Tecgnology.


    There's a lot of research out at the moment on the effect of fibre on
    diabetics' glucose levels. The best stuff seems to work by passing through
    the gut unchanged... maybe you are onto a winner : )

    Nicky.

    --
    A1c 10.5/5.6/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
    1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
    95/74/72Kg
     
  13. Roger Zoul

    Roger Zoul Guest

    OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
    :: In article <[email protected]>,
    :: jbuch <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote:
    ::
    ::: Roger Zoul wrote:
    :::: jbuch <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote:
    :::::: Recently I really noticed that a two egg omelet with five sliced
    :::::: mushrooms (sauteed in garlic flavored olive oil) really was
    :::::: twice the volume of just the two egg omelet.
    ::::::
    :::::: Then I found:
    ::::::
    :::::: http://www.annecollins.com/diet_nutrition/mushrooms.htm
    :::::: > Mushrooms
    ::::::: Diet Nutrition
    :::::::
    ::::::: Mushrooms are a treasure trove of nutrients. They are one of the
    ::::::: few good sources of vitamin B12 - very important for vegetarians
    ::::::: and vegans. In addition, mushrooms are rich in potassium and
    ::::::: phosphorous as well as protein and fiber. They are also
    ::::::: exceptionally low in calories.
    :::::::
    ::::::: Some research shows that the phytochemicals lentinan and
    ::::::: canthxanthin in shiitake mushrooms can help to prevent cancer.
    :::::::
    ::::::: Calories in Mushrooms:
    ::::::: 4 oz/100g = 13 calories
    ::::::
    :::::: Sauteed mushrooms (with or without flavored olive oil/butter)
    :::::: make excellent bulking (volume increasing) additions to dishes
    :::::: which have short cooking times.
    ::::::
    :::::: They also make good bulking additions to slow cooked dishes such
    :::::: as beef
    :::::: stew if they are added at the very last minute before serving.
    ::::::
    :::::: Salads bulk up nicely with mushrooms plain or lightly sauteed in
    :::::: flavored oil.
    ::::::
    :::::: Thirty years ago, when Atkins was just beginning the first
    :::::: go-round, I
    :::::: thought of trying to devise an artificial food that would have
    :::::: volume and no calories.
    ::::
    :::: typical of you, jimbo... :)
    ::::
    :::
    ::: The really odd thing about that ....
    :::
    ::: I finished graduate school on little money and occasional "Weenie
    ::: Water Gravy" meals at the end of the month. So I was about 130 to
    ::: 140 lbs at 5' 6" on a heavy bone frame.
    :::
    ::: Diet for thinness was not a personal issue or concern.
    :::
    ::: The US Air Force Ballistic Missile Division was abandoning the idea
    ::: of advanced ceramic materials as thermal protection of nuclear
    ::: weapons against the intense fire heat of reentry...... and there
    ::: were a lot of very inert ceramic oxide powders lying around.
    :::
    ::: When you mixed the ceramic powders with water, you could end up
    ::: with a slurry misture which resembled mashed potatos. The powders
    ::: were so small (less than 0.5 microns - smaller than almost any cell
    ::: in the human body) and so smooth that they should simply pass
    ::: through the body with no interaction with the biological
    ::: environment.
    :::
    ::: These powders were exceptionally inert, in a chemical sense, so that
    ::: even when white hot, they would not react with any normal
    ::: atmospheric constituents.
    :::
    ::: Management was both delighted that I had suggested an avenue of
    ::: further civilian use of this high technology and horrified that
    ::: it was something as mundane as simply inert bulk for dieters.
    :::
    ::: "Thanks, but no thanks"
    :::
    ::: Perhaps there is still a chance to become a millionaire..... selling
    ::: things like:
    :::
    ::: The Totally Inert Diet.
    ::: You Can't Digest This Diet.
    ::: The Aerospace Diet.
    ::: The New Ceramic Age Diet.
    ::: Inert Bulk for Intert Bulky People Diet.
    ::: The Modern Clay Diet- The next step up from stone age eating.
    ::: Don't Eat Everything on the Plate.... Eat The Plate instead, New
    ::: Diet Tecgnology.
    :::
    ::: Even weapons technology can be "fun", if you let it be.
    ::
    :: You know, if you were able to actually get something like this to
    :: taste
    :: good and could effectively market it, you'd be a millionare
    :: overnight...

    Splenda...
     
  14. In article <[email protected]>,
    "Roger Zoul" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
    > :: In article <[email protected]>,
    > :: jbuch <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote:
    > ::
    > ::: Roger Zoul wrote:
    > :::: jbuch <[email protected]_HERE.revealed.net> wrote:
    > :::::: Recently I really noticed that a two egg omelet with five sliced
    > :::::: mushrooms (sauteed in garlic flavored olive oil) really was
    > :::::: twice the volume of just the two egg omelet.
    > ::::::
    > :::::: Then I found:
    > ::::::
    > :::::: http://www.annecollins.com/diet_nutrition/mushrooms.htm
    > :::::: > Mushrooms
    > ::::::: Diet Nutrition
    > :::::::
    > ::::::: Mushrooms are a treasure trove of nutrients. They are one of the
    > ::::::: few good sources of vitamin B12 - very important for vegetarians
    > ::::::: and vegans. In addition, mushrooms are rich in potassium and
    > ::::::: phosphorous as well as protein and fiber. They are also
    > ::::::: exceptionally low in calories.
    > :::::::
    > ::::::: Some research shows that the phytochemicals lentinan and
    > ::::::: canthxanthin in shiitake mushrooms can help to prevent cancer.
    > :::::::
    > ::::::: Calories in Mushrooms:
    > ::::::: 4 oz/100g = 13 calories
    > ::::::
    > :::::: Sauteed mushrooms (with or without flavored olive oil/butter)
    > :::::: make excellent bulking (volume increasing) additions to dishes
    > :::::: which have short cooking times.
    > ::::::
    > :::::: They also make good bulking additions to slow cooked dishes such
    > :::::: as beef
    > :::::: stew if they are added at the very last minute before serving.
    > ::::::
    > :::::: Salads bulk up nicely with mushrooms plain or lightly sauteed in
    > :::::: flavored oil.
    > ::::::
    > :::::: Thirty years ago, when Atkins was just beginning the first
    > :::::: go-round, I
    > :::::: thought of trying to devise an artificial food that would have
    > :::::: volume and no calories.
    > ::::
    > :::: typical of you, jimbo... :)
    > ::::
    > :::
    > ::: The really odd thing about that ....
    > :::
    > ::: I finished graduate school on little money and occasional "Weenie
    > ::: Water Gravy" meals at the end of the month. So I was about 130 to
    > ::: 140 lbs at 5' 6" on a heavy bone frame.
    > :::
    > ::: Diet for thinness was not a personal issue or concern.
    > :::
    > ::: The US Air Force Ballistic Missile Division was abandoning the idea
    > ::: of advanced ceramic materials as thermal protection of nuclear
    > ::: weapons against the intense fire heat of reentry...... and there
    > ::: were a lot of very inert ceramic oxide powders lying around.
    > :::
    > ::: When you mixed the ceramic powders with water, you could end up
    > ::: with a slurry misture which resembled mashed potatos. The powders
    > ::: were so small (less than 0.5 microns - smaller than almost any cell
    > ::: in the human body) and so smooth that they should simply pass
    > ::: through the body with no interaction with the biological
    > ::: environment.
    > :::
    > ::: These powders were exceptionally inert, in a chemical sense, so that
    > ::: even when white hot, they would not react with any normal
    > ::: atmospheric constituents.
    > :::
    > ::: Management was both delighted that I had suggested an avenue of
    > ::: further civilian use of this high technology and horrified that
    > ::: it was something as mundane as simply inert bulk for dieters.
    > :::
    > ::: "Thanks, but no thanks"
    > :::
    > ::: Perhaps there is still a chance to become a millionaire..... selling
    > ::: things like:
    > :::
    > ::: The Totally Inert Diet.
    > ::: You Can't Digest This Diet.
    > ::: The Aerospace Diet.
    > ::: The New Ceramic Age Diet.
    > ::: Inert Bulk for Intert Bulky People Diet.
    > ::: The Modern Clay Diet- The next step up from stone age eating.
    > ::: Don't Eat Everything on the Plate.... Eat The Plate instead, New
    > ::: Diet Tecgnology.
    > :::
    > ::: Even weapons technology can be "fun", if you let it be.
    > ::
    > :: You know, if you were able to actually get something like this to
    > :: taste
    > :: good and could effectively market it, you'd be a millionare
    > :: overnight...
    >
    > Splenda...
    >
    >


    Maybe by itself, but the fillers they insist on adding to it ruin it.

    I can't use Splenda anymore. It reduces Ketones to zero for me...

    But I confess, I was using quite a bit. 1 gallon of sugar free kool-aid
    per day (made by me with 24 packets of Splenda little packets).
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
     
  15. Roger Zoul

    Roger Zoul Guest

    OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email protected]> wrote:
    :> In article <[email protected]>,
    :> "Roger Zoul" <[email protected]> wrote:

    :>> Splenda...
    :>>
    :>>
    :>
    :> Maybe by itself, but the fillers they insist on adding to it ruin it.
    :>
    :> I can't use Splenda anymore. It reduces Ketones to zero for me...
    :>
    :> But I confess, I was using quite a bit. 1 gallon of sugar free
    :> kool-aid
    :> per day (made by me with 24 packets of Splenda little packets).
    :> --

    You haven't tried the liquid yet?
     
  16. In article <[email protected]>,
    "Roger Zoul" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email protected]> wrote:
    > :> In article <[email protected]>,
    > :> "Roger Zoul" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > :>> Splenda...
    > :>>
    > :>>
    > :>
    > :> Maybe by itself, but the fillers they insist on adding to it ruin it.
    > :>
    > :> I can't use Splenda anymore. It reduces Ketones to zero for me...
    > :>
    > :> But I confess, I was using quite a bit. 1 gallon of sugar free
    > :> kool-aid
    > :> per day (made by me with 24 packets of Splenda little packets).
    > :> --
    >
    > You haven't tried the liquid yet?
    >
    >


    Not yet. :)
    It's in the plans...

    I can't find it locally.
    I'll have to order it on line.

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
     
  17. Roger Zoul

    Roger Zoul Guest

    OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email protected]> wrote:
    :> In article <[email protected]>,
    :> "Roger Zoul" <[email protected]> wrote:
    :>
    :>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email protected]> wrote:
    :>> :> In article <[email protected]>,
    :>> :> "Roger Zoul" <[email protected]> wrote:
    :>>
    :>> :>> Splenda...
    :>> :>>
    :>> :>>
    :>> :>
    :>> :> Maybe by itself, but the fillers they insist on adding to it
    :>> :> ruin it.
    :>> :>
    :>> :> I can't use Splenda anymore. It reduces Ketones to zero for me...
    :>> :>
    :>> :> But I confess, I was using quite a bit. 1 gallon of sugar free
    :>> :> kool-aid
    :>> :> per day (made by me with 24 packets of Splenda little packets).
    :>> :> --
    :>>
    :>> You haven't tried the liquid yet?
    :>>
    :>>
    :>
    :> Not yet. :)
    :> It's in the plans...
    :>
    :> I can't find it locally.
    :> I'll have to order it on line.

    As far as I know, none can get it locally. You must get it online and then
    only during a very brief window (like 3 minutes). I suggest you get in a
    bit of a hurry...

    http://sweetzfree.com/
     
  18. In article <[email protected]>,
    "Roger Zoul" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email protected]> wrote:
    > :> In article <[email protected]>,
    > :> "Roger Zoul" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > :>
    > :>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email protected]> wrote:
    > :>> :> In article <[email protected]>,
    > :>> :> "Roger Zoul" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > :>>
    > :>> :>> Splenda...
    > :>> :>>
    > :>> :>>
    > :>> :>
    > :>> :> Maybe by itself, but the fillers they insist on adding to it
    > :>> :> ruin it.
    > :>> :>
    > :>> :> I can't use Splenda anymore. It reduces Ketones to zero for me...
    > :>> :>
    > :>> :> But I confess, I was using quite a bit. 1 gallon of sugar free
    > :>> :> kool-aid
    > :>> :> per day (made by me with 24 packets of Splenda little packets).
    > :>> :> --
    > :>>
    > :>> You haven't tried the liquid yet?
    > :>>
    > :>>
    > :>
    > :> Not yet. :)
    > :> It's in the plans...
    > :>
    > :> I can't find it locally.
    > :> I'll have to order it on line.
    >
    > As far as I know, none can get it locally. You must get it online and then
    > only during a very brief window (like 3 minutes). I suggest you get in a
    > bit of a hurry...
    >
    > http://sweetzfree.com/
    >
    >
    >


    Yeah, will do!
    Must be in high demand...

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
     
  19. Roger Zoul

    Roger Zoul Guest

    OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
    :: In article <[email protected]>,
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email protected]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: http://sweetzfree.com/
    ::
    :: The next order window is Saturday at noon...

    I ordered mine on the 1st of this month. I could only get a 4 oz bottle and
    a 1 oz bottle before the window closed. It started right on the hour and
    the window was closed within 3 minutes. So, you have to be ready.... :)
    I'll be pedalling come noon Saturday!
     
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