Chains

What davek said. SRAM chains are clearly marked "SRAM" too.
Or rather "clearly when the gunge is scraped and used to
poison bus drivers"

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Pete Biggs said:

No need! Shimano chains aren't thaaaat bad.

Nonse. I believe that they are made by KMC, who are
Servants of Stan.

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Pete Biggs said:

Keith Willoughby said:

Quoted message said:

If it's Shimano then it' ll probably break anyway at an
inopportune time. Just put a decent chain on - they are
cheap.

OK, it's unanimous. I'll buy an SRAM chain.

No need! Shimano chains aren't thaaaat bad.

My head hurts. 🙂

OK. Three options, then.

1) Buy in-place chain cleaner. Clean chain.

2) Buy SRAM powerlink for Shimano chain. Remove chain,
clean, replace.

3) Buy new chain.

The current chain has only done about 400 miles - 250 in the
last couple of months, 150 in the previous 4 years. It's
never been cleaned, though, and looks hideous. Perhaps
buying a chain-cleaning machine makes most sense for the time-
being, as long as it's around the same price as a new chain.
I can *keep* this one clean, then, and replace it when I've
done some more miles on it.

I'll nip down to Halfords and take a look.

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Quoted message said:

What davek said.

🙂

But ignore what I said about IG chains because I got that completely wrong (misremembered something I read somewhere...). IG cassettes are actually fatter than HG cassettes, and HG chains are correspondingly narrower so you can't use an HG chain on an IG cassette. Or something like that. It's all pretty confusing and I'd better stop trying to give advice on a subject I'm not qualified to talk about...

Quoted message said:

"clearly when the gunge is scraped and used to poison bus drivers"

Said with feeling. Amen.

d.

Keith Willoughby <[email hidden]> wrote:

: and looks hideous. Perhaps buying a chain-cleaning machine
: makes most sense for the time-being, as long as it's
: around the same price as a new chain. I can *keep* this
: one clean, then, and replace it when I've done some more
: miles on it.

Yup. Really it does. A cleaning thing is about a tenner. Ok,
so it's not as good as taking the change off and buggering
around but it's a damm site less work, which means you might
actually do it more than once...

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Dave Larrington said:

Pete Biggs said:

No need! Shimano chains aren't thaaaat bad.

Nonse. I believe that they are made by KMC, who are
Servants of Stan.

$himano sell millions of them and there are different
models. You don't see cyclists stranded by the roadside with
broken chains every day. It's fair enough to recommend other
brands after one has worn out but it's OTT to replace a
virtually new one, IMO.

~PB

Pete Biggs said:

$himano sell millions of them and there are different
models. You don't see cyclists stranded by the roadside
with broken chains every day.

Yebbut, 99.9% of bikes are ridden a lifetime total of about
20 miles ;-)

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Arthur Clune said:

Yup. Really it does. A cleaning thing is about a tenner.
Ok, so it's not as good as taking the change off and
buggering around but it's a damm site less work, which
means you might actually do it more than once...

I'm thinking I'm going to have to do the same sort of thing
with the New Bike - it's got a Campag 10 speed chain, which
apparently you're NOT ALLOWED to take off the bike and put
it back on again, unless you pay the special fine of a £50
chain tool and a £10 link.

It appears that if you don't, the gulf stream stops, water
levels rise around the world and it's the end of
civilisation as we know it. Or something - I may have
misread the technical details. But the point is, the chain
is not yours to play around with...

Anybody got any experience with using other makes' of 10
speed chain which aren't quite so pedantic?

David

Keith Willoughby said:

Been reading Zinn. I want to take my chain off to put it
in some degreaser, and I have a chain tool. Zinn mentions
the special Shimano subpin, but doesn't tell me how to
tell which type of chain I have. How do I tell?

I bought a chain-cleaning-dohickey. I can't believe the [censored]
that came off the chain, but that was nothing to the sludge
that came off the derailler jockey wheels.

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[email hidden] wrote:

: Anybody got any experience with using other makes' of 10
: speed chain which aren't quite so pedantic?

No actual experience myself, but I belive the Wipperman one
is good from talking to people.

Personally, I'm about to convert my posh bike to 10 speed
and will just be getting the campag one. The only time I
take the chain off the bike is to bin it, so it's not
excatly a problem for me....

Arthur

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Quoted message said:

[email hidden] wrote:

: Anybody got any experience with using other makes' of 10
: speed chain which aren't quite so pedantic?

No actual experience myself, but I belive the Wipperman
one is good from talking to people.

Never used one either, but they get good reviews. Also
available in stainless steel, for extra protection (at extra
cost, invariably!) against moisture, road salt, etc.

Quoted message said:

Personally, I'm about to convert my posh bike to 10 speed
and will just be getting the campag one.

Am I right in thinking that they've changed the design of
this slightly? When it first came out, a lot of people
were put off by the expensive Campag Perma-Link tool (not
a problem, I guess, if your LBS has one). Now that
Shimano Dura-Ace is 10sp. too, no doubt we can look
forward to alternative chains on the market from Sram and
others. I think Everest of Italy might do a 10sp. chain
already - I'm sure it was mentioned on cyclingnews.com
earlier in the year.

David E. Belcher