Cold from the can?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Dan Abel <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm taking a break. At least a year. I'll decide what to do in a
while. A long while.

I wish I could do that...
but I hope you are ok???

I'm OK. So OK. I worked at my last job for 25 years. I didn't make a
fortune, but a computer programmer makes good money. Part of the reason
I stuck it out there was because I knew the retirement benefits were
fantastic. They are paying me *so* much for not working there. My net
pay, which wasn't minor, is now about 2/3 what it was. For not working.
We have no rent or mortgage. The vehicles are fairly new and paid off.
We have no other debts. The kids are all grown up. They don't need a
stay at home mom anymore. So my wife has agreed to go back to work.
She has two jobs. She has actually had the one job for more than a
decade, but it didn't pay. She works about 20 hours a week, and is paid
US$240 a month. The other job is 10 hours a week, and pays US$1000 a
month. She goes here there and everywhere, but mostly in town, and most
of her time is working at home, on the computer and the telephone. I
have lifetime health and dental coverage.

Awesome! So you are officially retired then?

I've got 22 years yet before I can do that, or I can cut 5 years off of
that for early retirement.

If I'd get off my butt and put more into mutual funds, I might be able
to go earlier. :-)

Well done!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I'm OK. So OK. I worked at my last job for 25 years. I didn't make a
fortune, but a computer programmer makes good money. Part of the reason
I stuck it out there was because I knew the retirement benefits were
fantastic. They are paying me *so* much for not working there.

Well, that's good to hear, you seemed rather cryptic about your
separation from your job, I was kinda worried about you.
Congratulations, I burned out as a programmer myself, good thing
it pays well.

nancy

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ranee Mueller said:

Pretty much the same here. Sandwiches are good cold, as are salads.
Cheese and crackers, fruit (though not fridge cold, I don't like that).
If I were in a situation with no stove and no microwave and no fire,
this is the kind of thing I would eat. Not cold canned food. *shudder*

Your ideas are good, but I think we are talking about emergency
supplies. Even with a fridge, some of these things don't keep. With no
fridge, stuff in cans might be an option. Especially the olives.

:-)

I understood the "emergency" to be when you didn't have time to heat
something up or access to heat (stuck at your desk, out on a call etc).

Regards,
Ranee

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Ranee Mueller said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ranee Mueller said:

Pretty much the same here. Sandwiches are good cold, as are salads.
Cheese and crackers, fruit (though not fridge cold, I don't like that).
If I were in a situation with no stove and no microwave and no fire,
this is the kind of thing I would eat. Not cold canned food. *shudder*

Your ideas are good, but I think we are talking about emergency
supplies. Even with a fridge, some of these things don't keep. With no
fridge, stuff in cans might be an option. Especially the olives.

:-)

I understood the "emergency" to be when you didn't have time to heat
something up or access to heat (stuck at your desk, out on a call etc).

Regards,
Ranee

Originally, yes, but looks like he's morphing the thread..... <lol>
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Can one cook over candles?

Ve-e-e-ery slowly....

And yes, Sterno evaporates even through an unopened can.
We do have a small camping stove in the garage which we
could use for emergencies, but in 39 years we've never
had one that desperate.

gloria p
who is glad we have a natural gas Weber

In article <[email hidden]>,

Puester said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Can one cook over candles?

Ve-e-e-ery slowly....

And yes, Sterno evaporates even through an unopened can.
We do have a small camping stove in the garage which we
could use for emergencies, but in 39 years we've never
had one that desperate.

gloria p
who is glad we have a natural gas Weber

IOW I'm better off with my New Braunfels smoker and a pile of
wood....... ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Awesome! So you are officially retired then?

Yes. Got my first full check a couple of weeks ago.

Quoted message said:

I've got 22 years yet before I can do that, or I can cut 5 years off of
that for early retirement.

Of course, I put in my time.

Quoted message said:

Well done!

I'd rather have mine medium.

:-)

--
Dan Abel
[email hidden]
Petaluma, California, USA

Back to the subject:

tuna
clam chowder
black olives
chick peas

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Awesome! So you are officially retired then?

Yes. Got my first full check a couple of weeks ago.

Quoted message said:

I've got 22 years yet before I can do that, or I can cut 5 years off of
that for early retirement.

Of course, I put in my time.

Quoted message said:

Well done!

I'd rather have mine medium.

:-)

Rare... <lol>
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Canned ham
Smoked baby clams
Smoked oysters
Sardines
Kipper snacks

I don't eat any of those things, but we keep kipper snacks around for
James for when he wants a protein snack. He thinks they're yummy. I
think I'm not kissing him until he brushes his teeth.

serene

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ranee Mueller said:

Pretty much the same here. Sandwiches are good cold, as are salads.
Cheese and crackers, fruit (though not fridge cold, I don't like that).
If I were in a situation with no stove and no microwave and no fire,
this is the kind of thing I would eat. Not cold canned food. *shudder*

Your ideas are good, but I think we are talking about emergency
supplies. Even with a fridge, some of these things don't keep. With no
fridge, stuff in cans might be an option. Especially the olives.

:-)

This thread could easily expand into emergency eating with no
refrigeration and no power, and no way to really heat stuff.

No way to really heat stuff wouldn't happen here because of my y2k preps
I have a few backups. If the electricity is off, I can cook on the bbq
that has also has a burner. If the gas is off, I have a 2 burner
campstove that runs on naptha fuel. If the campstove is out of fuel -
highly unlikely - , I have a nice firepit that runs on wood of which we
have plenty along with matches and firestarter. I've been tinkering
with solar as well and have a solar oven that doesn't require any fuel
other than the sun. We are installing either a corn burner or wood
stove in 2006. We heated with wood for many years and could easily cook
on the stove. So we can always heat food one way or another 🙂 Barring
that, eating food cold isn't so bad especially if you are hungry.

My question would be so many people are dependant on commercially canned
foods but neglect to figure out how to open the cans without
electricity. Homecanned foods remove this problem as does a manual can
opener. My second question is why people think they are prepared for
emergencies when they only use a freezer to store food. IMO you have to
also dry and can food to be fully prepared. That way you aren't putting
all your eggs in one basket.

Quoted message said:

How long does canned sterno keep? I just had to toss about 2 dozen cans
of canned sterno (it rattled hard as a rock) out of the storage shed a
couple of weeks ago when I was going thru stuff. I don't really know how
old it was, but probably close to 10 years old. I wonder if there is a
really good way to store sterno long term and keep it from evaporating?

Can one cook over candles?

One can keep food warm over candles and during the y2k scare there was a
homemade stove that worked with candles. I never made one but if you
google there still may be plans out there for it. I think these types
of things are rather prevalent amongst the survivalists.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ranee Mueller said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Stan Horwitz said:

Nothing in my life is so important
that it can't wait a couple of minutes for me to heat up a can of soup.

You don't work in emergency care or response do you?

No, but even if I did, I would eat foods such as canned tuna or chicken
if I were in that much of a hurry.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Stan Horwitz said:

None. It takes all of two minutes to dump a can of food into a bowl and
nuke it. If your job gets so busy that you do not have even two minutes
to prepare something for lunch is the day you should start looking for
another job!

I worked for a University also. It is easy to take stuff for granted.

When you work construction or drive a garbage truck, there probably
isn't a microwave. There are a lot of jobs like that.

There are jobs where you don't even know where you work. You report in,
and they send you where you are needed.

I spent the first half of my life (approx.) working for my dad in his
carpentry/contracting business. We ate bag lunches all the time; and I
never felt the need to eat any food out of a can that was intended to be
heated. Same with all the times I went camping and backpacking.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Stan Horwitz said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ranee Mueller said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Stan Horwitz said:

Nothing in my life is so important
that it can't wait a couple of minutes for me to heat up a can of soup.

You don't work in emergency care or response do you?

No, but even if I did, I would eat foods such as canned tuna or chicken
if I were in that much of a hurry.

You're not really getting the point. You said that there wasn't
anything in your life that was so important that it couldn't wait for
you to heat up soup. You also said something about if someone's job
requires that much time from someone, or doesn't give "proper" breaks
then it is a job to flee, I was pointing out that there are jobs that
don't allow such breaks at convenient times.

Regards,
Ranee

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Stan Horwitz said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ranee Mueller said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Stan Horwitz said:

Nothing in my life is so important
that it can't wait a couple of minutes for me to heat up a can of soup.

You don't work in emergency care or response do you?

No, but even if I did, I would eat foods such as canned tuna or chicken
if I were in that much of a hurry.

Sometimes it can take 8 hours to eat 1/2 of a can of tuna. ;-)

Sometimes you don't even get a chance to pee all night! :-P
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ranee Mueller said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Stan Horwitz said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ranee Mueller said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Stan Horwitz <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Nothing in my life is so important
> that it can't wait a couple of minutes for me to heat up a can of soup.

You don't work in emergency care or response do you?

No, but even if I did, I would eat foods such as canned tuna or chicken
if I were in that much of a hurry.

You're not really getting the point. You said that there wasn't
anything in your life that was so important that it couldn't wait for
you to heat up soup. You also said something about if someone's job
requires that much time from someone, or doesn't give "proper" breaks
then it is a job to flee, I was pointing out that there are jobs that
don't allow such breaks at convenient times.

Regards,
Ranee

Precisely.

People that are dieing don't wait to try to die after your break is over
with. ;-)

People also get sick and injured on holidays, nights and weekends,
and you have to be there for them.

Cheers!

Om -> who works night shifts and has been getting her ass kicked by the
emergency room all week...... It even hurts to sit down!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

OmOmelet said:

Ranee said:

Stan said:

Ranee wrote:
> Stan wrote:
>
> > Nothing in my life is so important
> > that it can't wait a couple of minutes for me to heat up a can of soup.
>
> You don't work in emergency care or response do you?

No, but even if I did, I would eat foods such as canned tuna or chicken
if I were in that much of a hurry.

You're not really getting the point.
I was pointing out that there are jobs that
don't allow such breaks at convenient times.

Precisely.

Talking points... gimme a break... why don't yoose med care woikers
hang a bag of soup around your neck and stick an IV in your ass.

Ahahahahahaha. . . .