On Feb 15, 10:58 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Bill C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > It really is amazing, isn't it? Tom just can't grasp the concept.
> > There've been tons of stories of people, especially recently, of
> > people leaving major high paying careers to go do what they love. Lots
> > of them seem to be landing here.
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> Yeah, I have a friend who was a Wall Street broker and who made his fortune
> and then decided to give something back to the community. Thanks to
> Clinton's dot-com bust he is now working a medium level job and worried
> about getting laid off or fired. He had to sell all his properties and evict
> his mother from the home he'd bought her and all.
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> The moral of the story is that people who are lucky enough to land in a good
> job shouldn't be so quick to dump it and especially hesitant to burn their
> bridges behind them.
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> > I think it's great, both for Steve and the shop, that Steve chose to
> > work at a shop part time.
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> That's past tense. Steve is now up in Salt Lake City arguing on the internet
> because he no longer has a life.
Your definition of a "GOOD" job seems to be solely based on the
amount of cash generated. You and my old man would've gotten along
well.
Here's my definition of a "good job" and it does reflect my
priorities.:
Pays enough to cover what you really need without struggling too
much. If your significant other doesn't have health care, or you don't
have an SO, then it needs to include health care at a cost that leaves
you enough other money.
Safe, for the type of job, working conditions. Work you like or can
enjoy. Decent people and workplace attitude. If more than 40hrs./week
then not much more and voluntary. Time for family, friends, and other
activities. Pension plan is nice, but with the instability in jobs and
pensions you've really got to think about doing this yourself.
That's really about it.
Growing up farming and construction w/my old man was the worst, but
had great points too. I learned a shitload, learned what brutally hard
work is, and learned that, especially farming when your dirty, covered
in ****, smell terrible and are totally exhausted it just might have
been a fantastic day.
Up early, work with the animals, including feeding and caring for the
calves (love animals) is like seeing a bunch of friends. Play with the
dogs for a few minutes. Clean out the barn. Hand pump fuel into the
tractors. Spend the day in a nice warm sun riding up and down the
fields w/a small cooler of non-alcoholic beverages. Feed the animals
including throwing a bunch of hay bales. Maybe have to milk cows for
three hours, maybe not depending on who's around and who wants to do
what.
The point is that, while there was lots of hard work to be done the
schedule was flexible, almost all of it had good, enjoyable points,
and at the end of the day you could grab a quart of ice cold milk
right out of the bulk tank.
Worked at Kellog Brush as a mechanic. Did machine set-ups, repair,
and helped out the engineers in coming up with better stuff. Again
pretty dirty, pressure to make sure orders get done on time and
quality is met, but building good relationships with the machine
operators solved about half the "equipment" problems. Wander around,
do QCs, talk to people, fill in so the operators can grab an extra
break. Good job. Had a great party given by the Union head and the
operators at our local bar when I left.
The military is tons of stress and way too many hours when it's busy
and a piece of cake when it's not.
For putting up with it we got decent housing, medical care, a
reasonable wage to live on, travel, special events and discounts.
Chances to go to school, do sporting events, volunteer with the
theater group, at the library, and the gym. Fly all over, meet all
kinds of different people.
Great job except for the BS from the Pentagon and officers who want
to make it by kissing ass; Not doing the job.
Did a buch of temp labor **** at times as a fill in. Usually were
pretty good. Nobody expects much so if you have half a brain and
actually do some work things seem to go well. If it doesn't you move
on. It's temp so no big loss.
Now I'm working for myself and making about half, or less than I
could be. The other side is I get to work around the injuries, only
bid jobs that look decent, adjust my schedule to the kids and family.
Go to different places and do slightly different things.
Gotta love it.
I've been lucky to have learned a large similar skill set that has
always let me be able to find a job that paid at least something.
Guess IMO it's pretty simple. Most jobs are what you make them and
almost anything is better than hand shoveling or working a "mud
sucker" pump hose, in a trench for a water main break, up to your ass
in icy water in March, or December.
Life's WAY too short to be bitter and ****** off all the time. If the
only thing that gets you off is the most cash in the least amount of
time, don't call me, I'll be riding or fishing with my kids.
Bill C