Drink more beer.

Jet said:

In addition it seems typical that once one stops the athletic activity they
don't necessarily stop the consumption of 'mass quantities'. That's how I
once gained 60lbs. I stopped the running biking and swimming and weight
training to work 12 hours a day (in addition to my regular job) on a
computer consulting job but didn't realize - or didn't think about -
changing my food intake.

If you gradually reduce the quantity over 2 or 3 days, you can avoid this
happening. Obviously it requires a bit of self discipline for a day or
two, but the craving tend to decrease quickly after that. Business lunches
and a western culture that says that one should eat to be polite
regardless of how hungry one is, is IMHO a bigger problem.

Jet said:

In addition it seems typical that once one stops the athletic activity they
don't necessarily stop the consumption of 'mass quantities'. That's how I
once gained 60lbs. I stopped the running biking and swimming and weight
training to work 12 hours a day (in addition to my regular job) on a
computer consulting job but didn't realize - or didn't think about -
changing my food intake.

If you gradually reduce the quantity over 2 or 3 days, you can avoid this
happening. Obviously it requires a bit of self discipline for a day or
two, but the craving tend to decrease quickly after that. Business lunches
and a western culture that says that one should eat to be polite
regardless of how hungry one is, is IMHO a bigger problem.

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:47:20 +0200, Donald Munro <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Jet said:

In addition it seems typical that once one stops the athletic activity they
don't necessarily stop the consumption of 'mass quantities'. That's how I
once gained 60lbs. I stopped the running biking and swimming and weight
training to work 12 hours a day (in addition to my regular job) on a
computer consulting job but didn't realize - or didn't think about -
changing my food intake.

If you gradually reduce the quantity over 2 or 3 days, you can avoid this
happening. Obviously it requires a bit of self discipline for a day or
two, but the craving tend to decrease quickly after that. Business lunches
and a western culture that says that one should eat to be polite
regardless of how hungry one is, is IMHO a bigger problem.

Ah, not sure what you're saying...but I'd be surprised if only took 2-3
days. It probably wasn't so much the cravings as the portion size and the
habit of eating two h-burgers and so forth I think. In addition it was also
probably the practice of eating while watching TV or on the PC where I'm
not paying attention to my eating and just automatically shoving food down.

One way that helps is to fix yourself the 'normal' or customary amount of
food and then just before eating cut everything in half. Eat the other half
at the next meal or something.

There are a lot of little tricks that may add up. Drinking a couple glasses
of water half an hour before eating, reducing portion size, chewing more
before swallowing, cutting out white carbs and sugar.

I've been doing a targetted type of diet in which I don't consume any carbs
except for a small amount of hard candy or OJ before a ride and then for
the 30 min period after I'll drink a glass of fruit juice. I'm planning to
switch to an energy drink for both occasions, though to get that good
4-to-1 carb to protein mix that is supposed to be good for replenishing the
muscle stores.

jj

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:47:20 +0200, Donald Munro <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Jet said:

In addition it seems typical that once one stops the athletic activity they
don't necessarily stop the consumption of 'mass quantities'. That's how I
once gained 60lbs. I stopped the running biking and swimming and weight
training to work 12 hours a day (in addition to my regular job) on a
computer consulting job but didn't realize - or didn't think about -
changing my food intake.

If you gradually reduce the quantity over 2 or 3 days, you can avoid this
happening. Obviously it requires a bit of self discipline for a day or
two, but the craving tend to decrease quickly after that. Business lunches
and a western culture that says that one should eat to be polite
regardless of how hungry one is, is IMHO a bigger problem.

Ah, not sure what you're saying...but I'd be surprised if only took 2-3
days. It probably wasn't so much the cravings as the portion size and the
habit of eating two h-burgers and so forth I think. In addition it was also
probably the practice of eating while watching TV or on the PC where I'm
not paying attention to my eating and just automatically shoving food down.

One way that helps is to fix yourself the 'normal' or customary amount of
food and then just before eating cut everything in half. Eat the other half
at the next meal or something.

There are a lot of little tricks that may add up. Drinking a couple glasses
of water half an hour before eating, reducing portion size, chewing more
before swallowing, cutting out white carbs and sugar.

I've been doing a targetted type of diet in which I don't consume any carbs
except for a small amount of hard candy or OJ before a ride and then for
the 30 min period after I'll drink a glass of fruit juice. I'm planning to
switch to an energy drink for both occasions, though to get that good
4-to-1 carb to protein mix that is supposed to be good for replenishing the
muscle stores.

jj

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:47:20 +0200, Donald Munro <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Jet said:

In addition it seems typical that once one stops the athletic activity they
don't necessarily stop the consumption of 'mass quantities'. That's how I
once gained 60lbs. I stopped the running biking and swimming and weight
training to work 12 hours a day (in addition to my regular job) on a
computer consulting job but didn't realize - or didn't think about -
changing my food intake.

If you gradually reduce the quantity over 2 or 3 days, you can avoid this
happening. Obviously it requires a bit of self discipline for a day or
two, but the craving tend to decrease quickly after that. Business lunches
and a western culture that says that one should eat to be polite
regardless of how hungry one is, is IMHO a bigger problem.

Ah, not sure what you're saying...but I'd be surprised if only took 2-3
days. It probably wasn't so much the cravings as the portion size and the
habit of eating two h-burgers and so forth I think. In addition it was also
probably the practice of eating while watching TV or on the PC where I'm
not paying attention to my eating and just automatically shoving food down.

One way that helps is to fix yourself the 'normal' or customary amount of
food and then just before eating cut everything in half. Eat the other half
at the next meal or something.

There are a lot of little tricks that may add up. Drinking a couple glasses
of water half an hour before eating, reducing portion size, chewing more
before swallowing, cutting out white carbs and sugar.

I've been doing a targetted type of diet in which I don't consume any carbs
except for a small amount of hard candy or OJ before a ride and then for
the 30 min period after I'll drink a glass of fruit juice. I'm planning to
switch to an energy drink for both occasions, though to get that good
4-to-1 carb to protein mix that is supposed to be good for replenishing the
muscle stores.

jj

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:47:20 +0200, Donald Munro <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Jet said:

In addition it seems typical that once one stops the athletic activity they
don't necessarily stop the consumption of 'mass quantities'. That's how I
once gained 60lbs. I stopped the running biking and swimming and weight
training to work 12 hours a day (in addition to my regular job) on a
computer consulting job but didn't realize - or didn't think about -
changing my food intake.

If you gradually reduce the quantity over 2 or 3 days, you can avoid this
happening. Obviously it requires a bit of self discipline for a day or
two, but the craving tend to decrease quickly after that. Business lunches
and a western culture that says that one should eat to be polite
regardless of how hungry one is, is IMHO a bigger problem.

Ah, not sure what you're saying...but I'd be surprised if only took 2-3
days. It probably wasn't so much the cravings as the portion size and the
habit of eating two h-burgers and so forth I think. In addition it was also
probably the practice of eating while watching TV or on the PC where I'm
not paying attention to my eating and just automatically shoving food down.

One way that helps is to fix yourself the 'normal' or customary amount of
food and then just before eating cut everything in half. Eat the other half
at the next meal or something.

There are a lot of little tricks that may add up. Drinking a couple glasses
of water half an hour before eating, reducing portion size, chewing more
before swallowing, cutting out white carbs and sugar.

I've been doing a targetted type of diet in which I don't consume any carbs
except for a small amount of hard candy or OJ before a ride and then for
the 30 min period after I'll drink a glass of fruit juice. I'm planning to
switch to an energy drink for both occasions, though to get that good
4-to-1 carb to protein mix that is supposed to be good for replenishing the
muscle stores.

jj

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:47:20 +0200, Donald Munro <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Jet said:

In addition it seems typical that once one stops the athletic activity they
don't necessarily stop the consumption of 'mass quantities'. That's how I
once gained 60lbs. I stopped the running biking and swimming and weight
training to work 12 hours a day (in addition to my regular job) on a
computer consulting job but didn't realize - or didn't think about -
changing my food intake.

If you gradually reduce the quantity over 2 or 3 days, you can avoid this
happening. Obviously it requires a bit of self discipline for a day or
two, but the craving tend to decrease quickly after that. Business lunches
and a western culture that says that one should eat to be polite
regardless of how hungry one is, is IMHO a bigger problem.

Ah, not sure what you're saying...but I'd be surprised if only took 2-3
days. It probably wasn't so much the cravings as the portion size and the
habit of eating two h-burgers and so forth I think. In addition it was also
probably the practice of eating while watching TV or on the PC where I'm
not paying attention to my eating and just automatically shoving food down.

One way that helps is to fix yourself the 'normal' or customary amount of
food and then just before eating cut everything in half. Eat the other half
at the next meal or something.

There are a lot of little tricks that may add up. Drinking a couple glasses
of water half an hour before eating, reducing portion size, chewing more
before swallowing, cutting out white carbs and sugar.

I've been doing a targetted type of diet in which I don't consume any carbs
except for a small amount of hard candy or OJ before a ride and then for
the 30 min period after I'll drink a glass of fruit juice. I'm planning to
switch to an energy drink for both occasions, though to get that good
4-to-1 carb to protein mix that is supposed to be good for replenishing the
muscle stores.

jj

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:47:20 +0200, Donald Munro <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Jet said:

In addition it seems typical that once one stops the athletic activity they
don't necessarily stop the consumption of 'mass quantities'. That's how I
once gained 60lbs. I stopped the running biking and swimming and weight
training to work 12 hours a day (in addition to my regular job) on a
computer consulting job but didn't realize - or didn't think about -
changing my food intake.

If you gradually reduce the quantity over 2 or 3 days, you can avoid this
happening. Obviously it requires a bit of self discipline for a day or
two, but the craving tend to decrease quickly after that. Business lunches
and a western culture that says that one should eat to be polite
regardless of how hungry one is, is IMHO a bigger problem.

Ah, not sure what you're saying...but I'd be surprised if only took 2-3
days. It probably wasn't so much the cravings as the portion size and the
habit of eating two h-burgers and so forth I think. In addition it was also
probably the practice of eating while watching TV or on the PC where I'm
not paying attention to my eating and just automatically shoving food down.

One way that helps is to fix yourself the 'normal' or customary amount of
food and then just before eating cut everything in half. Eat the other half
at the next meal or something.

There are a lot of little tricks that may add up. Drinking a couple glasses
of water half an hour before eating, reducing portion size, chewing more
before swallowing, cutting out white carbs and sugar.

I've been doing a targetted type of diet in which I don't consume any carbs
except for a small amount of hard candy or OJ before a ride and then for
the 30 min period after I'll drink a glass of fruit juice. I'm planning to
switch to an energy drink for both occasions, though to get that good
4-to-1 carb to protein mix that is supposed to be good for replenishing the
muscle stores.

jj

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:47:20 +0200, Donald Munro <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Jet said:

In addition it seems typical that once one stops the athletic activity they
don't necessarily stop the consumption of 'mass quantities'. That's how I
once gained 60lbs. I stopped the running biking and swimming and weight
training to work 12 hours a day (in addition to my regular job) on a
computer consulting job but didn't realize - or didn't think about -
changing my food intake.

If you gradually reduce the quantity over 2 or 3 days, you can avoid this
happening. Obviously it requires a bit of self discipline for a day or
two, but the craving tend to decrease quickly after that. Business lunches
and a western culture that says that one should eat to be polite
regardless of how hungry one is, is IMHO a bigger problem.

Ah, not sure what you're saying...but I'd be surprised if only took 2-3
days. It probably wasn't so much the cravings as the portion size and the
habit of eating two h-burgers and so forth I think. In addition it was also
probably the practice of eating while watching TV or on the PC where I'm
not paying attention to my eating and just automatically shoving food down.

One way that helps is to fix yourself the 'normal' or customary amount of
food and then just before eating cut everything in half. Eat the other half
at the next meal or something.

There are a lot of little tricks that may add up. Drinking a couple glasses
of water half an hour before eating, reducing portion size, chewing more
before swallowing, cutting out white carbs and sugar.

I've been doing a targetted type of diet in which I don't consume any carbs
except for a small amount of hard candy or OJ before a ride and then for
the 30 min period after I'll drink a glass of fruit juice. I'm planning to
switch to an energy drink for both occasions, though to get that good
4-to-1 carb to protein mix that is supposed to be good for replenishing the
muscle stores.

jj

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:47:20 +0200, Donald Munro <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Jet said:

In addition it seems typical that once one stops the athletic activity they
don't necessarily stop the consumption of 'mass quantities'. That's how I
once gained 60lbs. I stopped the running biking and swimming and weight
training to work 12 hours a day (in addition to my regular job) on a
computer consulting job but didn't realize - or didn't think about -
changing my food intake.

If you gradually reduce the quantity over 2 or 3 days, you can avoid this
happening. Obviously it requires a bit of self discipline for a day or
two, but the craving tend to decrease quickly after that. Business lunches
and a western culture that says that one should eat to be polite
regardless of how hungry one is, is IMHO a bigger problem.

Ah, not sure what you're saying...but I'd be surprised if only took 2-3
days. It probably wasn't so much the cravings as the portion size and the
habit of eating two h-burgers and so forth I think. In addition it was also
probably the practice of eating while watching TV or on the PC where I'm
not paying attention to my eating and just automatically shoving food down.

One way that helps is to fix yourself the 'normal' or customary amount of
food and then just before eating cut everything in half. Eat the other half
at the next meal or something.

There are a lot of little tricks that may add up. Drinking a couple glasses
of water half an hour before eating, reducing portion size, chewing more
before swallowing, cutting out white carbs and sugar.

I've been doing a targetted type of diet in which I don't consume any carbs
except for a small amount of hard candy or OJ before a ride and then for
the 30 min period after I'll drink a glass of fruit juice. I'm planning to
switch to an energy drink for both occasions, though to get that good
4-to-1 carb to protein mix that is supposed to be good for replenishing the
muscle stores.

jj

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Tom Kunich said:

Quoted message said:

> The very first thing on his mind will have to be Shinier Bock and
> Burritos.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

Actually many athletes who change to a healthier lifestyle don't really
miss the food and drink they used to consume. Personally for example,
attempting to eat fatty greasy meat such as for example in hamburgers
makes me feel distinctly ill.

Ryan Cousineau said:

You need the livedrunk(tm) program.
Just a delicious long drink for breakfast, another one for lunch, and
juicy steak for dinner! With a couple of beers.

Just send me one of those livedrunk bracelets and I'll put some gin in my
water bottle. Any weaving will be ascribed to the crosswinds effects on
cosmic carbone wheels.

Send you one?!?! Make your own!

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/a3cdd62d4d320126
?hl=en&

By the way, what's Shinier Bock? Are the bottles polished?

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Tom Kunich said:

Quoted message said:

> The very first thing on his mind will have to be Shinier Bock and
> Burritos.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

Actually many athletes who change to a healthier lifestyle don't really
miss the food and drink they used to consume. Personally for example,
attempting to eat fatty greasy meat such as for example in hamburgers
makes me feel distinctly ill.

Ryan Cousineau said:

You need the livedrunk(tm) program.
Just a delicious long drink for breakfast, another one for lunch, and
juicy steak for dinner! With a couple of beers.

Just send me one of those livedrunk bracelets and I'll put some gin in my
water bottle. Any weaving will be ascribed to the crosswinds effects on
cosmic carbone wheels.

Send you one?!?! Make your own!

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/a3cdd62d4d320126
?hl=en&

By the way, what's Shinier Bock? Are the bottles polished?

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Tom Kunich said:

Quoted message said:

> The very first thing on his mind will have to be Shinier Bock and
> Burritos.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

Actually many athletes who change to a healthier lifestyle don't really
miss the food and drink they used to consume. Personally for example,
attempting to eat fatty greasy meat such as for example in hamburgers
makes me feel distinctly ill.

Ryan Cousineau said:

You need the livedrunk(tm) program.
Just a delicious long drink for breakfast, another one for lunch, and
juicy steak for dinner! With a couple of beers.

Just send me one of those livedrunk bracelets and I'll put some gin in my
water bottle. Any weaving will be ascribed to the crosswinds effects on
cosmic carbone wheels.

Send you one?!?! Make your own!

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/a3cdd62d4d320126
?hl=en&

By the way, what's Shinier Bock? Are the bottles polished?

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Tom Kunich said:

Quoted message said:

> The very first thing on his mind will have to be Shinier Bock and
> Burritos.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

Actually many athletes who change to a healthier lifestyle don't really
miss the food and drink they used to consume. Personally for example,
attempting to eat fatty greasy meat such as for example in hamburgers
makes me feel distinctly ill.

Ryan Cousineau said:

You need the livedrunk(tm) program.
Just a delicious long drink for breakfast, another one for lunch, and
juicy steak for dinner! With a couple of beers.

Just send me one of those livedrunk bracelets and I'll put some gin in my
water bottle. Any weaving will be ascribed to the crosswinds effects on
cosmic carbone wheels.

Send you one?!?! Make your own!

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/a3cdd62d4d320126
?hl=en&

By the way, what's Shinier Bock? Are the bottles polished?

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Tom Kunich said:

Quoted message said:

> The very first thing on his mind will have to be Shinier Bock and
> Burritos.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

Actually many athletes who change to a healthier lifestyle don't really
miss the food and drink they used to consume. Personally for example,
attempting to eat fatty greasy meat such as for example in hamburgers
makes me feel distinctly ill.

Ryan Cousineau said:

You need the livedrunk(tm) program.
Just a delicious long drink for breakfast, another one for lunch, and
juicy steak for dinner! With a couple of beers.

Just send me one of those livedrunk bracelets and I'll put some gin in my
water bottle. Any weaving will be ascribed to the crosswinds effects on
cosmic carbone wheels.

Send you one?!?! Make your own!

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/a3cdd62d4d320126
?hl=en&

By the way, what's Shinier Bock? Are the bottles polished?

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Tom Kunich said:

Quoted message said:

> The very first thing on his mind will have to be Shinier Bock and
> Burritos.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

Actually many athletes who change to a healthier lifestyle don't really
miss the food and drink they used to consume. Personally for example,
attempting to eat fatty greasy meat such as for example in hamburgers
makes me feel distinctly ill.

Ryan Cousineau said:

You need the livedrunk(tm) program.
Just a delicious long drink for breakfast, another one for lunch, and
juicy steak for dinner! With a couple of beers.

Just send me one of those livedrunk bracelets and I'll put some gin in my
water bottle. Any weaving will be ascribed to the crosswinds effects on
cosmic carbone wheels.

Send you one?!?! Make your own!

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/a3cdd62d4d320126
?hl=en&

By the way, what's Shinier Bock? Are the bottles polished?

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Tom Kunich said:

Quoted message said:

> The very first thing on his mind will have to be Shinier Bock and
> Burritos.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

Actually many athletes who change to a healthier lifestyle don't really
miss the food and drink they used to consume. Personally for example,
attempting to eat fatty greasy meat such as for example in hamburgers
makes me feel distinctly ill.

Ryan Cousineau said:

You need the livedrunk(tm) program.
Just a delicious long drink for breakfast, another one for lunch, and
juicy steak for dinner! With a couple of beers.

Just send me one of those livedrunk bracelets and I'll put some gin in my
water bottle. Any weaving will be ascribed to the crosswinds effects on
cosmic carbone wheels.

Send you one?!?! Make your own!

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/a3cdd62d4d320126
?hl=en&

By the way, what's Shinier Bock? Are the bottles polished?

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?