>"Mark D Morin" <[email protected]> wrote
>> >Yes -- it's because ritalin meets the statutory criteria for Schedule II
>> >drugs. If you have some sort of kooky conspiracy theory, go ahead
>> >and post it.
>> The question is, "what are those statutory criteria?"
>
>If you and Joe have some sort of point to make, then go ahead and
>make it. Instead, you hint that you are sitting on some dark theory,
>but you don't want anyone to know that the theory is.
>
>The classification of ritalin as a Schedule II controlled drug is
>not particularly controversial. I don't think anyone cares exactly
>how the decision was made as long as it was the correct decision.
>
So, if a Pharmacy Lobbiest were to determine public policy, you wouldn't care
so long as the correct decision was reached. Hmmm, why not leave the parents
entirely out of the vaccine issue and let the correct decision be made by those
who know best?
>Subject: Re: Drug Enforcement Agency: Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
>From: [email protected] (Jonathan Smith)
>Date: 9/24/2003 7:24 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>
>[email protected] (Jan) wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>> >Subject: Re: Drug Enforcement Agency: Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
>> >From: [email protected] (Jonathan Smith)
>> >Date: 9/23/2003 10:06 PM Central Standard Time
>> >Message-id: <[email protected]>
>> >
>> >[email protected] (Jan) wrote in message
>> >news:<[email protected]>...
>> >
>> >You said:
>> >
>> >> >> First, you must understand how the FDA classifies controled drugs.
>Below
>> are
>> >> >> the FDA's Controlled Drug Schedules.
>> >
>> >To which I replied:
>> >
>> >> >To suggest that FDA schedules drugs and then post a link to a site
>> >> >that starts off by saying this - when in reality scheduling is a
>> >> >function of the AG and enforced by the DEA, not FDA...
>> >>
>> >> Are you seeing things??
>> >
>> >Yes - I see that an anti-ritalin website misrepresents facts to
>> >support their own political position. Personally, I find that
>> >offensive.
>>
>> No, that's not what you said.
>>
>> This is:
>>
>> > >To suggest that FDA schedules drugs and then post a link to a site
>> >> >that starts off by saying this - when in reality scheduling is a
>> >> >function of the AG and enforced by the DEA, not FDA...
>>
>> The link said no such thing.
>
>Of course it did -
>
>"First, you must understand how the FDA classifies controled drugs.
>Below are the FDA's Controlled Drug Schedules."
Yes,
NOT
>To suggest that FDA schedules drugs and then post a link to a site
>> >> >that starts off by saying this - when in reality scheduling is a
>> >> >function of the AG and enforced by the DEA, not FDA..
<snip>
>
>> >> I understand about Ritalin, I saw the effects for 38 years in my daycare
>> >> centers.
>> >
>> >You have not demonstrated this.
>>
>> Yes, I have. Look it up.
>Now you have. And I had to laugh - in your daycare centers?
Yes. MINE. But go ahead and laugh it shows your ignorance.
>How old
>were these kids and why weren't they in school?
Duh. You looked nothing up, or you wouldn't have asked such a stupid question.
I guess you know absolutely nothing about daycare centers.
<snip>
>I'm done.
>
js
Good. Since all you want to do is nitpick and insult, I am done also.
I do NOT believe in drugging kids, you do, your problem.
>Subject: Re: Drug Enforcement Agency: Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
>From: Joe Parsons [email protected]
>Date: 9/24/2003 11:41 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>
>On 24 Sep 2003 06:11:46 GMT, [email protected] (Jan) wrote:
>
>>>Subject: Re: Drug Enforcement Agency: Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
>>>From: [email protected] (Jonathan Smith)
>>>Date: 9/23/2003 10:06 PM Central Standard Time
>>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>[email protected] (Jan) wrote in message
>>>news:<[email protected]>...
>>>
>>>You said:
>>>
>>>> >> First, you must understand how the FDA classifies controled drugs.
>Below
>>>> are
>>>> >> the FDA's Controlled Drug Schedules.
>>>
>>>To which I replied:
>>>
>>>> >To suggest that FDA schedules drugs and then post a link to a site
>>>> >that starts off by saying this - when in reality scheduling is a
>>>> >function of the AG and enforced by the DEA, not FDA...
>>>>
>>>> Are you seeing things??
>>>
>>>Yes - I see that an anti-ritalin website misrepresents facts to
>>>support their own political position. Personally, I find that
>>>offensive.
>>
>>No, that's not what you said.
>>
>>This is:
>>
>>> >To suggest that FDA schedules drugs and then post a link to a site
>>>> >that starts off by saying this - when in reality scheduling is a
>>>> >function of the AG and enforced by the DEA, not FDA...
>>
>>The link said no such thing.
>>
>>>>Compounded by your insistance that it is the Drug Enforcement Agency
>>>> >when in reality it is the Drug Enforcement Administration...
>>>>
>>>> My insistance??? Where??
>>>
>>>In repeating it?
>>
>>Sorry things get reposted when they are being repeatedly discussed.
>>
>>>> Furthermore you are nitpicking. What difference does it make?? Agency or
>>>> Administration???
>>
>>>It is an error of fact. When you begin with an admonition that others
>>>first need to understand when in fact you are so careless to repeat
>>>two errors of fact....
>>
>>I asked you what different it made. the above doesn't answer that point. You
>>are nitpicking.
>>
>>> >One wonders if you understand anything at all avout this topic.
>>>>
>>>> It seems you are making some false accusations. See above and answer.
>>
>>>
>>>The FDA does not schedule drugs - the AG does and it is enforced, at
>>>the Federal level by the DEA.
>>
>>I beg yur pardon.
>>
>>http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:VUzRMc5u9QsJ:www.aphis.usda.gov/ws/di
>>rectives/2430.rtf+FDA+schedules+drugs&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
>
>Now I *know* you don't read what you post.
You know no such thing.
You said nothing about your buddies screw up, you ignored it. He was wrong.
Typical.
This is a game to you, to me it is far from it, as I saw the effect of Ritalin
for 38 years.
So go belittle somewhere else
>Both FDA and DEA set
>standards for accountability and storage requirements.
On 25 Sep 2003 00:39:30 GMT, [email protected] (Jan) wrote:
>>Subject: Re: Drug Enforcement Agency: Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
>>From: Joe Parsons [email protected]
>>Date: 9/24/2003 11:41 AM Central Standard Time
>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>>
>>On 24 Sep 2003 06:11:46 GMT, [email protected] (Jan) wrote:
>>
>>>>Subject: Re: Drug Enforcement Agency: Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
>>>>From: [email protected] (Jonathan Smith)
>>>>Date: 9/23/2003 10:06 PM Central Standard Time
>>>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>[email protected] (Jan) wrote in message
>>>>news:<[email protected]>...
>>>>
>>>>You said:
>>>>
>>>>> >> First, you must understand how the FDA classifies controled drugs.
>>Below
>>>>> are
>>>>> >> the FDA's Controlled Drug Schedules.
>>>>
>>>>To which I replied:
>>>>
>>>>> >To suggest that FDA schedules drugs and then post a link to a site
>>>>> >that starts off by saying this - when in reality scheduling is a
>>>>> >function of the AG and enforced by the DEA, not FDA...
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you seeing things??
>>>>
>>>>Yes - I see that an anti-ritalin website misrepresents facts to
>>>>support their own political position. Personally, I find that
>>>>offensive.
>>>
>>>No, that's not what you said.
>>>
>>>This is:
>>>
>>>> >To suggest that FDA schedules drugs and then post a link to a site
>>>>> >that starts off by saying this - when in reality scheduling is a
>>>>> >function of the AG and enforced by the DEA, not FDA...
>>>
>>>The link said no such thing.
>>>
>>>>>Compounded by your insistance that it is the Drug Enforcement Agency
>>>>> >when in reality it is the Drug Enforcement Administration...
>>>>>
>>>>> My insistance??? Where??
>>>>
>>>>In repeating it?
>>>
>>>Sorry things get reposted when they are being repeatedly discussed.
>>>
>>>>> Furthermore you are nitpicking. What difference does it make?? Agency or
>>>>> Administration???
>>>
>>>>It is an error of fact. When you begin with an admonition that others
>>>>first need to understand when in fact you are so careless to repeat
>>>>two errors of fact....
>>>
>>>I asked you what different it made. the above doesn't answer that point. You
>>>are nitpicking.
>>>
>>>> >One wonders if you understand anything at all avout this topic.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems you are making some false accusations. See above and answer.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The FDA does not schedule drugs - the AG does and it is enforced, at
>>>>the Federal level by the DEA.
>>>
>>>I beg yur pardon.
>>>
>>>http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:VUzRMc5u9QsJ:www.aphis.usda.gov/ws/di
>>>rectives/2430.rtf+FDA+schedules+drugs&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
>>
>>Now I *know* you don't read what you post.
>
>You know no such thing.
Sure I do. You posted that link as substantiation for your claim that drugs are
Scheduled by the FDA. Not only does the text on that page *not* bear out your
assertion, but it is to all intents and purposes irrelevant: it is an FDA
directive concerning euthanizing and immobilizing agents for animals. Either
you are mind-bogglingly unintelligent to think this would have any relevance at
all to your claim (that FDA Schedules substances) or you simply did not read it.
I decided to be charitable and say you didn't read it.
Joe Parsons
>You said nothing about your buddies screw up, you ignored it. He was wrong.
>
>Typical.
>
>This is a game to you, to me it is far from it, as I saw the effect of Ritalin
>for 38 years.
>
>So go belittle somewhere else
>
>>Both FDA and DEA set
>>standards for accountability and storage requirements.
>
>Jan
>Subject: Re: Drug Enforcement Agency: Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
>From: [email protected] (Jan)
>Date: 9/24/2003 5:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>
> I understand about Ritalin, I saw the effects for 38 years in my daycare
>>> >> centers.
>>Now you have. And I had to laugh - in your daycare centers?
>
>Yes. MINE. But go ahead and laugh it shows your ignorance.
>
I believe JS was laugh that you truly believe that your sandbox experience
gives you the expertise that you continually trip over here....
it may give you preschool babysitting experience (actual experience by your
words)...but surely nothing else...
[Snip 110 lines]
>> I really don't care what you think I know. I had first hand experience.
>
> Hint: Go to www.dea.gov and see that they are the agency that schedules
> drugs.
Why should she believe the DEA? As everyone knows
they're in the pockets of the drug companies.
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