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  1. Please some helpful suggestions.

    A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my house is giving me problems.
    Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year after the rains, it is a
    v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to myself; I am a 52 year
    old Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This problem ditch is on a moderate
    downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my front tire hits the other side. I
    keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up when I get to the bottom of the
    ditch....this has not helped. I know past of the problem is going to slow but this section got me
    trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of speed any suggestions?

    Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA

  2. Dean A. Stepper said:

    Please some helpful suggestions.

    A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my house is giving me
    problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year after the
    rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to myself;
    I am a 52 year old Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This problem ditch is
    on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my front tire hits the
    other side. I keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up when I get to the bottom
    of the ditch....this has not helped. I know past of the problem is going to slow but this section
    got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of speed any suggestions?

    Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA

    Try actually pushing the bike down into the dip when you get to the edge
    - load up the front of the bike with your arms and body, then as soon as you start getting near the
    bottom, suck that wheel back up and throw your weight backwards. As you come out of the ditch,
    push the front of the bike away from you more and down, and let your legs come up. Its almost like
    a bunnyhop, except you stay on the ground. You have to be going at a bit of a clip to do this
    right, but start slow till you get more comfortable.

    Jon Bond

  3. In article <EKYqa.1503$pJ6.1072@fed1read05>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Please some helpful suggestions.

    A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my house is giving me
    problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year after the
    rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to myself;
    I am a 52 year old Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This problem ditch is
    on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my front tire hits the
    other side. I keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up when I get to the bottom
    of the ditch....this has not helped. I know past of the problem is going to slow but this section
    got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of speed any suggestions?

    Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA

    I have a similar section on a trail i ride. i have found two methods that may help you. one is to
    ride as far back and as low as you can go, and ride it out. as it sounds like this method fails for
    you, the other method is to do similar to a wheelie-drop into the ditch. pop the wheel just before
    you go down, and ride the wheelie until either you start up the other side, or the front wheel is
    over the top of the ditch wall. then as the rear wheel rides up the other side of the ditch, soak it
    up in your legs. This may or may not work for you, and perhaps it may even spawn a different
    technique for negotiating it.

    Keep in mind i ride a pretty heavy bike so yours may not respond the same as mine. I like to keep my
    front wheel fairly light in technical section. that way it is more apt to roll over stuff rather
    than running into it.

    It makes a difference on the bottom of the ditch as well. if it is real sharp, as i suspect it is,
    then the front wheel should be as light as you can get it (hence the wheelie-drop method). the rear
    wheel will bounce a little at the bottom, but should ride up the other side.

    This assumes the soil is fairly hard. if it is real soft, like mud, then your rear tire may simply
    get buried and endo you anyway. if all else fails, find a rider that has ridden the section and get
    advice from them as they will know more about the specifics than i do.

    ~Travis
    --
    travis57 at megalink dot net

    travis5765.homelinux.net, Primary Administrator TF Custom Electronic, Owner/Founder/Developer
    (current project: Automotive exhaust flame-thrower)

  4. Dean A. Stepper said:

    Please some helpful suggestions.

    A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my house is giving me
    problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year after the
    rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to myself;
    I am a 52 year old Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This problem ditch is
    on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my front tire hits the
    other side. I keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up when I get to the bottom
    of the ditch....this has not helped. I know past of the problem is going to slow but this section
    got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of speed any suggestions?

    Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA

    you aren't by chance using your front brake and not being aware of it? Don't ask me how I know about
    that one...

    penny

    --
    me and my bike: www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm

  5. --
    members.rogers.comtheblackfoxx "Jonathan Bond" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dean A. Stepper said:

    Please some helpful suggestions.

    A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my


    house

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    is giving me problems. Last year my current problem area was a


    wop-de-do

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    little ditch, this year after the rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe


    three

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    feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to myself; I am a 52 year


    old

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    Quoted message said:

    Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This problem


    ditch

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    is on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my front tire hits
    the other side. I keep my ass over the back


    tire

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    and pull the front tire up when I get to the bottom of the ditch....this


    has

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    not helped. I know past of the problem is going to slow but this


    section

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of speed any suggestions?

    Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA

    Try actually pushing the bike down into the dip when you get to the edge
    - load up the front of the bike with your arms and body, then as soon as you start getting near
    the bottom, suck that wheel back up and throw your weight backwards. As you come out of the
    ditch, push the front of the bike away from you more and down, and let your legs come up. Its
    almost like a bunnyhop, except you stay on the ground. You have to be going at a bit of a clip
    to do this right, but start slow till you get more comfortable.

    Jon Bond

    or you could just walk it if your not comfortable trying that method.

  6. Always a possibility isn't it. When are they coming out with anti-lock front brakes? Dean "Penny S."
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dean A. Stepper said:

    Please some helpful suggestions.

    A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my house is giving me
    problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year after the
    rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to
    myself; I am a 52 year old Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This problem
    ditch is on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my front
    tire hits the other side. I keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up when I get
    to the bottom of the ditch....this has not helped. I know past of the problem is going to slow
    but this section got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of speed any
    suggestions?

    Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA

    you aren't by chance using your front brake and not being aware of it? Don't ask me how I know
    about that one...

    penny

    --
    me and my bike: www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm

  7. In article <BzZqa.1509$pJ6.1111@fed1read05>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Always a possibility isn't it. When are they coming out with anti-lock front brakes? Dean "Penny
    S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dean A. Stepper said:

    Please some helpful suggestions.

    A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my house is giving me
    problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year after the
    rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to
    myself; I am a 52 year old Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This
    problem ditch is on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my
    front tire hits the other side. I keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up
    when I get to the bottom of the ditch....this has not helped. I know past of the problem is
    going to slow but this section got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of
    speed any suggestions?

    Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA

    you aren't by chance using your front brake and not being aware of it? Don't ask me how I know
    about that one...

    penny

    --
    me and my bike: www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm

    They already have them, but it depends on how fast you can squeeze and release the brake lever
    repeatedly ;-)

    I doubt it will be an available item at the sensors and processor, as well as the brake actuator
    would both be costly, and heavy.

    ~Travis
    --
    travis57 at megalink dot net

    travis5765.homelinux.net, Primary Administrator TF Custom Electronic, Owner/Founder/Developer
    (current project: Automotive exhaust flame-thrower)

  8. Technician said:

    In article <BzZqa.1509$pJ6.1111@fed1read05>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Always a possibility isn't it. When are they coming out with anti-lock front brakes? Dean "Penny
    S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Dean A. Stepper wrote:

    >Please some helpful suggestions.
    >
    >A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my house is giving me
    >problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year after the
    >rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to
    >myself; I am a 52 year old Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This problem
    >ditch is on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my front
    >tire hits the other side. I keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up when I get
    >to the bottom of the ditch....this has not helped. I know past of the problem is going to slow
    >but this section got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of speed any
    >suggestions?
    >
    >Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA

    you aren't by chance using your front brake and not being aware of it? Don't ask me how I know
    about that one...

    penny

    --
    me and my bike: www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm

    They already have them, but it depends on how fast you can squeeze and release the brake lever
    repeatedly ;-)

    I doubt it will be an available item at the sensors and processor, as well as the brake actuator
    would both be costly, and heavy.

    ~Travis

    Plus the rapid vibration would probably do nasty things to handling and control. Not to mention the
    fact that sometimes I WANT to lock that front brake up....

    Jon Bond

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Technician said:

    In article <BzZqa.1509$pJ6.1111@fed1read05>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Always a possibility isn't it. When are they coming out with anti-lock front brakes? Dean "Penny
    S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    >Dean A. Stepper wrote:
    >
    >>Please some helpful suggestions.
    >>
    >>A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my house is giving me
    >>problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year after the
    >>rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to
    >>myself; I am a 52 year old Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This
    >>problem ditch is on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my
    >>front tire hits the other side. I keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up
    >>when I get to the bottom of the ditch....this has not helped. I know past of the problem is
    >>going to slow but this section got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of
    >>speed any suggestions?
    >>
    >>Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA
    >
    >you aren't by chance using your front brake and not being aware of it? Don't ask me how I know
    >about that one...
    >
    >
    >penny
    >
    >--
    >me and my bike: www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm
    >
    >

    They already have them, but it depends on how fast you can squeeze and release the brake lever
    repeatedly ;-)

    I doubt it will be an available item at the sensors and processor, as well as the brake actuator
    would both be costly, and heavy.

    ~Travis

    Plus the rapid vibration would probably do nasty things to handling and control. Not to mention
    the fact that sometimes I WANT to lock that front brake up....

    Jon Bond

    True, can't do a wheel stand without locking the brake, though most of my wheel stands end up as
    endos anyway (too much brake too fast).

    ~Travis
    --
    travis57 at megalink dot net

    travis5765.homelinux.net, Primary Administrator TF Custom Electronic, Owner/Founder/Developer
    (current project: Automotive exhaust flame-thrower)

  10. "Dean A. Stepper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EKYqa.1503$pJ6.1072@fed1read05...

    Quoted message said:

    Please some helpful suggestions.

    A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my


    house

    Quoted message said:

    is giving me problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year
    after the rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe


    three

    Quoted message said:

    feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to myself; I am a 52 year


    old

    Quoted message said:

    Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This problem


    ditch

    Quoted message said:

    is on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my front tire hits
    the other side. I keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up when I get to the
    bottom of the ditch....this


    has

    Quoted message said:

    not helped. I know past of the problem is going to slow but this section got me trippin. Short off
    bunny hopping it at a high rate of speed any suggestions?

    Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA

    If you have a suspension fork try compressing the fork hard just as you reach the bottom (I
    know...scary) the resulting rebound will pop you right up and out of the ditch. It's
    counter-intuitive to what you really want to be doing at that moment but it works. Heck it might
    work on a rigid fork by just compressing the tire and letting it rebound.

    Mike

  11. "Dean A. Stepper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BzZqa.1509$pJ6.1111@fed1read05...

    Quoted message said:

    Always a possibility isn't it. When are they coming out with anti-lock front brakes? Dean "Penny
    S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dean A. Stepper said:

    Please some helpful suggestions.

    A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my house is giving me
    problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year after the
    rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to
    myself; I am a 52 year old Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This
    problem ditch is on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my
    front tire hits the other side. I keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up
    when I get to the bottom of the ditch....this has not helped. I know past of the problem is
    going to slow but this section got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of
    speed any suggestions?

    Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA

    you aren't by chance using your front brake and not being aware of it? Don't ask me how I know
    about that one...

    penny

    --
    me and my bike: www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm



    Some cheapo bikes (eg kids bikes) with Vs come with a sprung barrel in the linkage which prevents
    locking the front brake. If you squeeze too hard a spring in this device gives so that not all your
    force transfers to the brakes! They feel horrible to use but i guess they are safer for kids...

  12. Mark (UK) said:

    Some cheapo bikes (eg kids bikes) with Vs come with a sprung barrel in the linkage which
    prevents locking the front brake. If you squeeze too hard a spring in this device gives so that
    not all your force transfers to the brakes! They feel horrible to use but i guess they are safer
    for kids...

    Apparently my son's bike is NOT equipped with anti lock brakes. Julian's never had a problem
    with them - every bike he's ever owned has been well made and well maintained by his father.
    He's grown up to expect that when you grab the brakes, you will *stop*. But when he traded
    bikes with his buddy, who rides a hand-me-down beater, Jason wound up laying on his back in
    the street with the bike on top of him. The kid was okay, but the brake levers were a little
    bent. Personally, I'd probably be a little put off by such an experience, but, then again,
    I've never been an 8 year old boy. They spent the rest of the afternoon practicing nose
    wheelies, endos and auguring in. It's amazing that any of us survive our childhoods.

    Kathleen

  13. Jonathan Bond <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Technician said:

    In article <BzZqa.1509$pJ6.1111@fed1read05>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Always a possibility isn't it. When are they coming out with anti-lock front brakes? Dean "Penny
    S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    >Dean A. Stepper wrote:
    >
    >>Please some helpful suggestions.
    >>
    >>A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my house is giving me
    >>problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year after the
    >>rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to
    >>myself; I am a 52 year old Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This
    >>problem ditch is on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my
    >>front tire hits the other side. I keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up
    >>when I get to the bottom of the ditch....this has not helped. I know past of the problem is
    >>going to slow but this section got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of
    >>speed any suggestions?
    >>
    >>Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA
    >
    >you aren't by chance using your front brake and not being aware of it? Don't ask me how I know
    >about that one...
    >
    >
    >penny
    >
    >--
    >me and my bike: www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm
    >
    >

    They already have them, but it depends on how fast you can squeeze and release the brake lever
    repeatedly ;-)

    I doubt it will be an available item at the sensors and processor, as well as the brake actuator
    would both be costly, and heavy.

    ~Travis

    Plus the rapid vibration would probably do nasty things to handling and control. Not to mention
    the fact that sometimes I WANT to lock that front brake up....

    Jon Bond

    Oooo, just think of the extra shock fatigue on the h/set bearings and fork bushes............

    Shaun aRe - be good to get your g/f on the bars and anchor hard though......... I suppose.........

  14. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    Jonathan Bond <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Technician said:

    In article <BzZqa.1509$pJ6.1111@fed1read05>, [email hidden] says...

    >Always a possibility isn't it. When are they coming out with anti-lock front brakes? Dean
    >"Penny S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >>Dean A. Stepper wrote:
    >>
    >>>Please some helpful suggestions.
    >>>
    >>>A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my house is giving me
    >>>problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year after
    >>>the rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind
    >>>to myself; I am a 52 year old Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This
    >>>problem ditch is on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when
    >>>my front tire hits the other side. I keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire
    >>>up when I get to the bottom of the ditch....this has not helped. I know past of the problem
    >>>is going to slow but this section got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate
    >>>of speed any suggestions?
    >>>
    >>>Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA
    >>
    >>you aren't by chance using your front brake and not being aware of it? Don't ask me how I
    >>know about that one...
    >>
    >>
    >>penny
    >>
    >>--
    >>me and my bike: www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    >

    They already have them, but it depends on how fast you can squeeze and release the brake lever
    repeatedly ;-)

    I doubt it will be an available item at the sensors and processor, as well as the brake
    actuator would both be costly, and heavy.

    ~Travis

    Plus the rapid vibration would probably do nasty things to handling and control. Not to mention
    the fact that sometimes I WANT to lock that front brake up....

    Jon Bond

    Oooo, just think of the extra shock fatigue on the h/set bearings and fork bushes............

    Shaun aRe - be good to get your g/f on the bars and anchor hard though......... I suppose.........

    Hey, now theres a thought. if you have a g/f who dislikes mtb riding, install ABS brakes on the rear
    wheel. but then again, she may stay too far behind ;-)

    ~Travis
    --
    travis57 at megalink dot net

    travis5765.homelinux.net, Primary Administrator TF Custom Electronic, Owner/Founder/Developer
    (current project: Automotive exhaust flame-thrower)

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    >>Always a possibility isn't it. When are they coming out with


    anti-lock

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    >>front brakes? Dean "Penny S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >>>Dean A. Stepper wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Please some helpful suggestions.
    >>>>
    >>>>A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot


    by

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    >>>>my house is giving me problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little
    >>>>ditch, this year after the rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18
    >>>>inches deep. To


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    >>>>kind to myself; I am a 52 year old Clydesdale with most of my


    weight

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    >>>>(225lbs) in my torso. This problem ditch is on a moderate


    downhill

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    >>>>grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my front tire hits the other side. I
    >>>>keep my ass over the back tire and pull


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    >>>>front tire up when I get to the bottom of the ditch....this has


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    >>>>got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of


    speed

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    >>>>any suggestions?
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    >>>>Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA
    >>>
    >>>you aren't by chance using your front brake and not being aware of


    it?

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    >>>Don't ask me how I know about that one...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>penny
    >>>
    >>>--
    >>>me and my bike: www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
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    >
    > They already have them, but it depends on how fast you can squeeze


    and

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    > release the brake lever repeatedly ;-)
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    > I doubt it will be an available item at the sensors and processor,


    as

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    > well as the brake actuator would both be costly, and heavy.
    >
    > ~Travis

    Plus the rapid vibration would probably do nasty things to handling


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    control. Not to mention the fact that sometimes I WANT to lock that front brake up....

    Jon Bond

    Oooo, just think of the extra shock fatigue on the h/set bearings and


    fork

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    bushes............

    Shaun aRe - be good to get your g/f on the bars and anchor hard though......... I
    suppose.........

    Hey, now theres a thought. if you have a g/f who dislikes mtb riding, install ABS brakes on the
    rear wheel. but then again, she may stay too far behind ;-)

    ~Travis

    Yes, I am nothing if not smart, and a man who knows how to take good care of the ladies.

    Shaun aRe- 'See? Always thinking, me.......'

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    Technician <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > > In article <BzZqa.1509$pJ6.1111@fed1read05>, [email hidden] says...
    > >
    > >>Always a possibility isn't it. When are they coming out with


    anti-lock

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    > >>front brakes? Dean "Penny S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > >>>Dean A. Stepper wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>>Please some helpful suggestions.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot


    by

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    > >>>>my house is giving me problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little
    > >>>>ditch, this year after the rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe
    > >>>>18 inches deep. To


    be

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    > >>>>kind to myself; I am a 52 year old Clydesdale with most of my


    weight

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    > >>>>(225lbs) in my torso. This problem ditch is on a moderate


    downhill

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    > >>>>grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my front tire hits the other side. I
    > >>>>keep my ass over the back tire and pull


    the

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    > >>>>front tire up when I get to the bottom of the ditch....this has


    not

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    > >>>>helped. I know past of the problem is going to slow but this


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    > >>>>got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of


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    > >>>>any suggestions?
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    > >>>>Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA
    > >>>
    > >>>you aren't by chance using your front brake and not being aware of


    it?

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    > >>>Don't ask me how I know about that one...
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    > >>>penny
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    > >>>me and my bike: www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm
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    > > They already have them, but it depends on how fast you can squeeze


    and

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    > > release the brake lever repeatedly ;-)
    > >
    > > I doubt it will be an available item at the sensors and processor,


    as

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    > > well as the brake actuator would both be costly, and heavy.
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    > > ~Travis
    >
    > Plus the rapid vibration would probably do nasty things to handling


    and

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    > control. Not to mention the fact that sometimes I WANT to lock that front brake up....
    >
    > Jon Bond

    Oooo, just think of the extra shock fatigue on the h/set bearings and


    fork

    Quoted message said:
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    bushes............

    Shaun aRe - be good to get your g/f on the bars and anchor hard though......... I
    suppose.........

    Hey, now theres a thought. if you have a g/f who dislikes mtb riding, install ABS brakes on the
    rear wheel. but then again, she may stay too far behind ;-)

    ~Travis

    Yes, I am nothing if not smart, and a man who knows how to take good care of the ladies.

    Shaun aRe- 'See? Always thinking, me.......'

    LMAO :-D
    --
    travis57 at megalink dot net

    travis5765.homelinux.net, Primary Administrator TF Custom Electronic, Owner/Founder/Developer
    (current project: Automotive exhaust flame-thrower)

  17. "Dean A. Stepper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EKYqa.1503$pJ6.1072@fed1read05...

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    Please some helpful suggestions.

    A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my


    house

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    is giving me problems. Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year
    after the rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe


    three

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    feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to myself; I am a 52 year


    old

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    Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This problem


    ditch

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    is on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my front tire hits
    the other side. I keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up when I get to the
    bottom of the ditch....this


    has

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    not helped. I know past of the problem is going to slow but this section got me trippin. Short off
    bunny hopping it at a high rate of speed any suggestions?

    Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA

    Best method would be to try and manual it. As you approch the dip move your weight backwards and
    lift the front wheel, aiming to plant it down after the
    dip. The rear wheel will follow through ok. Get this technique right and you will find you use it
    all the time.

    Steve E.

  18. Dean A. Stepper said:

    Please some helpful suggestions.

    A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my house is giving me problems.
    Last year my current problem area was a wop-de-do little ditch, this year after the rains, it is a
    v-shaped ditch maybe three feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to myself; I am a 52 year
    old Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This problem ditch is on a moderate
    downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle bars when my front tire hits the other side. I
    keep my ass over the back tire and pull the front tire up when I get to the bottom of the
    ditch....this has not helped. I know past of the problem is going to slow but this section got me
    trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of speed any suggestions?

    Dean,

    That ditch is a classic "wheel eater" - if it's really shaped like that, there's almost no way to
    ride through it. When your front wheel drops in, about the time you need to be starting to lift the
    front end, the rear wheel will start to drop on behind you, which will tend to cause the front end
    to NOT lift.

    I'd suggest just walking the ditch (or perhaps finding a 12" log to drop into it). I had a similar
    obstacle in Korea, and my brain wouldn't let me attempt it. Finally my testosterone (you reading
    this, Kathleen?) forced me to quit being a girlie man and go for it.

    It resulted in the only stitches I've ever had in my life. ;-)

    Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles habcycles.comhabcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame

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    If you have a suspension fork try compressing the fork hard just as you reach the bottom (I
    know...scary) the resulting rebound will pop you right up and out of the ditch.

    Speaking of suspension forks, Dean, do you have the heavy springs in yours? (Or if it's an air fork,
    do you have it set to the correct pressure?). I have a friend about your weight that had problems
    with endos on his Psylo fork until he upgraded to the heavy springs.

    -John Morgan

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    Dean A. Stepper said:

    Please some helpful suggestions.

    A section of narrow twisty tight single track trail I ride allot by my


    house

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    is giving me problems. Last year my current problem area was a


    wop-de-do

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    little ditch, this year after the rains, it is a v-shaped ditch maybe


    three

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    feet across, maybe 18 inches deep. To be kind to myself; I am a 52


    year

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    old

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Clydesdale with most of my weight (225lbs) in my torso. This problem


    ditch

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    is on a moderate downhill grade and I keeping going over the handle


    bars

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    Quoted message said:
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    when my front tire hits the other side. I keep my ass over the back


    tire

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    and pull the front tire up when I get to the bottom of the


    ditch....this

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    has

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    not helped. I know past of the problem is going to slow but this


    section

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    got me trippin. Short off bunny hopping it at a high rate of speed


    any

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    suggestions?

    Dean Stepper Laguna Beach CA

    Try actually pushing the bike down into the dip when you get to the edge
    - load up the front of the bike with your arms and body, then as soon as you start getting near
    the bottom, suck that wheel back up and throw your weight backwards. As you come out of the
    ditch, push the front of the bike away from you more and down, and let your legs come up. Its
    almost like a bunnyhop, except you stay on the ground. You have to be going at a bit of a clip
    to do this right, but start slow till you get more comfortable.

    Jon Bond

    or you could just walk it if your not comfortable trying that method.

    But the activity is "riding" a bike....

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