Entering the queue at a stop sign

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If the coffee's really good, there ya go! It's worth it! Especially if you can get decent growlies
to go with it, like cinnamon rolls with sour cream icing.

The coffee turns out to be OK, but not the Hi-Test exotics I'm used to. It's weak but palatable. Not
Starbucks but not McDonalds either.

The growlies are OK, it's mainly boiled eggs, grapes and brownies.

Of course the new pitch has a microwave, which means hot oatmeal in the morning. The CVS (local
drugstore chain) across the street has a really good selection of juices, this is a net improvement.

There is decent Chinese food within walking distance.

I won't expand on the other amenities, it's not all that great to tell you the truth, but it's a
nicer environment, I can park in the shade, now.

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to tell you the truth, but it's a nicer environment, I can park in the shade, now.

That's a good thing. I've recently been reminded how hot saddles can get when parked in the
sunlight. (They do cool off quickly with some airflow, though).

cheers, Tom

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Most of the time I have seen cyclists fly by all the traffic right up to the stop sign. Isn't this
kind of dangerous? I know it's

I try to ride following the same rules a when I'm driving. COnsistency simplifies life.

However, I find I'm having problems with exhaust fumes (especially truck and diesel) so have
started to position myself to avoid having fumes pipe blasting straight into my face (I should
get a hose so that no fumes are lost between the tailpipe and my lungs). This means slowly /
carefully proceeding to the stop line at a traffic light. If traffic is flowing at a stop sign, I
usually take my position in the line. If it's a difficult intersection, e.g. a side road and a
busy highway, I'll pull up to the stop line so I'm not sucking fumes for ten minutes.

Be aware of visibility issues, especially with large trucks. And those schoolbus side-mirrors are
deadly. :-(

(schoolbus drivers are often part-time, and many seem completely unaware of where the bus is
on the road)

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On the other hand, I can't see a cyclist entering the queue with vehicles. At least I don't think
I've ever seen this done.

Why not ? Among other advantages, it annoys the ^%$# out of drivers :-)

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Also, what is the proper way to make a left turn at a typical busy 4-lane or 6-lane boulevard? Do
you keep to the right and make two crossings?

Depends on traffic and your comfort level. I have used the left-turn lane and done the same turn
I'd do in the mothership, I've ridden across in the curb lane, then repositioned to wait for the
light to change, and I've WALKED across the pedestrian crossing and then remounted to wait for
the light to change the other way. Some intersections are just plain ugly, and I have enough
gray hair.

Everyone develops their own comfort levels and practices. These are just practices I've adopted,
which may not conform to the strict letter of the law, and may not suit other cyclists.

hth

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Quoted message said:

Most of the time I have seen cyclists fly by all the traffic right up to the stop sign. Isn't this
kind of dangerous? I know it's

I try to ride following the same rules a when I'm driving. COnsistency simplifies life.

However, I find I'm having problems with exhaust fumes (especially truck and diesel) so have
started to position myself to avoid having fumes pipe blasting straight into my face (I should
get a hose so that no fumes are lost between the tailpipe and my lungs). This means slowly /
carefully proceeding to the stop line at a traffic light. If traffic is flowing at a stop sign,
I usually take my position in the line. If it's a difficult intersection, e.g. a side road and a
busy highway, I'll pull up to the stop line so I'm not sucking fumes for ten minutes.

Be aware of visibility issues, especially with large trucks. And those schoolbus side-mirrors
are deadly. :-(

(schoolbus drivers are often part-time, and many seem completely unaware of where the bus is on
the road)

Quoted message said:

On the other hand, I can't see a cyclist entering the queue with vehicles. At least I don't think
I've ever seen this done.

Why not ? Among other advantages, it annoys the ^%$# out of drivers :-)

Quoted message said:

Also, what is the proper way to make a left turn at a typical busy 4-lane or 6-lane boulevard? Do
you keep to the right and make two crossings?

Depends on traffic and your comfort level. I have used the left-turn lane and done the same turn
I'd do in the mothership, I've ridden across in the curb lane, then repositioned to wait for the
light to change, and I've WALKED across the pedestrian crossing and then remounted to wait for
the light to change the other way. Some intersections are just plain ugly, and I have enough
gray hair.

Everyone develops their own comfort levels and practices. These are just practices I've adopted,
which may not conform to the strict letter of the law, and may not suit other cyclists.

hth

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</pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Most of the time I have seen cyclists fly by all the
traffic right up to the stop sign. Isn't this kind of dangerous? I know it's </pre> </blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!----> I try to ride following the same rules a when I'm driving. COnsistency
simplifies life.

However, I find I'm having problems with exhaust fumes (especially truck and diesel) so have
started to position myself to avoid having fumes pipe blasting straight into my face (I should
get a hose so that no fumes are lost between the tailpipe and my lungs). This means slowly /
carefully proceeding to the stop line at a traffic light. If traffic is flowing at a stop sign, I
usually take my position in the line. If it's a difficult intersection, e.g. a side road and a
busy highway, I'll pull up to the stop line so I'm not sucking fumes for ten minutes.

Be aware of visibility issues, especially with large trucks. And those schoolbus side-mirrors are
deadly. :-(

(schoolbus drivers are often part-time, and many seem completely unaware of where the bus is
on the road)

</pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On the other hand, I can't see a cyclist entering the
queue with vehicles. At least I don't think I've ever seen this done. </pre> </blockquote> <pre
wrap=""><!----> Why not ? Among other advantages, it annoys the ^%$# out of drivers :-) </pre>
<blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Also, what is the proper way to make a left turn at a
typical busy 4-lane or 6-lane boulevard? Do you keep to the right and make two crossings? </pre>
</blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----> Depends on traffic and your comfort level. I have used the
left-turn lane and done the same turn I'd do in the mothership, I've ridden across in the curb
lane, then repositioned to wait for the light to change, and I've WALKED across the pedestrian
crossing and then remounted to wait for the light to change the other way. Some intersections are
just plain ugly, and I have enough gray hair.

Everyone develops their own comfort levels and practices. These are just practices I've adopted,
which may not conform to the strict letter of the law, and may not suit other cyclists.

hth </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>

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