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  1. WASHINGTON (AP) -- Farm-raised salmon contain significantly more dioxins and other potentially cancer-
    causing pollutants than do salmon caught in the wild, says a major study that tested contaminants in
    fish bought around the world.

    Full story: cnn.comindex.html

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

  2. Not only more dioxins but they are fed pellets made up of rendered bodies of cats and dogs and road
    kill. This mix is sold to farmers who raise the salmon on the east coast and to the chinese and
    thailand farmers of shellfish such as shrimp. All the non-wild fish and shell fish are fed this mix.
    Well now you get to enjoy fido and fluffy twice. Matt

    Peter Aitken said:

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Farm-raised salmon contain significantly more dioxins and other potentially cancer-
    causing pollutants than do salmon caught in the wild, says a major study that tested contaminants
    in fish bought around the world.

    Full story: cnn.comindex.html

  3. Quoting from _Scientific_American_, April 1997, page 28:

    "Because the [PrP] protein may, in rare circumstances, be able to convert to an infectious form, farm-
    raised salmon, like beef, could in theory pose a public health threat."

    This article is commenting on the discovery that salmon brains also contain the PrP protein, which
    has both a normal form and an abnormal form, the latter of which is responsible for Mad Cow Disease.

  4. Peter Aitken said:

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Farm-raised salmon contain significantly more dioxins and other potentially cancer-
    causing pollutants than do salmon caught in the wild, says a major study that tested contaminants
    in fish bought around the world.

    Full story: cnn.comindex.html

    The benefits of eating salmon for reduction of cardiovascular disease far outweigh the risks
    demonstrated by this study. Hopefully, the public will consider the cost/benefit before rejecting
    salmon as unsafe

    Dennis

  5. Quoted message said:

    Not only more dioxins but they are fed pellets made up of rendered bodies of cats and dogs and
    road kill.

    This is total [censored]! Salmon are fed fish protein ...one of the reasons farmed salmon are not really
    eco-friendly.

    The main problem is simply too many people ...period! Thanks to the Pope and other cheaper-by-the-
    dozen cultures, were overgrazing the world pasture.

    We need a good plague, or two. Or, put some of that bio-engineering to good use and give the human
    race a lemming gene.

    "Hey guys, what say we try bungee jumping without the bungee!!?".

    nb

  6. "notbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:YPoLb.2727$sv6.9664@attbi_s52...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not only more dioxins but they are fed pellets made up of rendered bodies of cats and dogs and
    road kill.

    This is total [censored]! Salmon are fed fish protein ...one of the reasons farmed salmon are not really
    eco-friendly.

    The main problem is simply too many people ...period! Thanks to the Pope and other cheaper-by-the-
    dozen cultures, were overgrazing the world


    pasture.

    Quoted message said:


    We need a good plague, or two. Or, put some of that bio-engineering to


    good

    Quoted message said:

    use and give the human race a lemming gene.

    "Hey guys, what say we try bungee jumping without the bungee!!?".

    nb

    As off the wall as NotBob may seem, there is some truth to what he says. The fact of nature is that
    when we do become overpopulated, natural controls will eventually take over - plagues, death, etc...

  7. "Peter Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Farm-raised salmon contain significantly more dioxins


    and

    Quoted message said:

    other potentially cancer-causing pollutants than do salmon caught in the wild, says a major study
    that tested contaminants in fish bought around


    the

    Quoted message said:

    world.

    Full story: cnn.comindex.html

    This will unleash a flood of "I told ya so" posts.

    Fish farming is necessary if we are going to continue to eat fish. I wish the anti-farming side
    would put their energy into creating a better way to farm fish rather than just trying to
    eliminate the idea.

    On the good side, it's a wake up call, much like the mad cow episode of late, to tighten up and
    improve conditions. Of course, alarmists will be alarmists.

    Jaquaculture

  8. Dennis G. said:
    Peter Aitken said:

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Farm-raised salmon contain significantly more dioxins and other potentially cancer-
    causing pollutants than do salmon caught in the wild, says a major study that tested contaminants
    in fish bought around the world.

    Full story: cnn.comindex.html

    The benefits of eating salmon for reduction of cardiovascular disease far outweigh the risks
    demonstrated by this study. Hopefully, the public will consider the cost/benefit before rejecting
    salmon as unsafe

    Dennis


    So, eat other fish or wild salmon.
    --
    Alan

    "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and avoid the people, you might bet-
    ter stay home."
    -- James Michener

  9. Mark Thorson said:

    Quoting from _Scientific_American_, April 1997, page 28:

    "Because the [PrP] protein may, in rare circumstances, be able to convert to an infectious form,
    farm-raised salmon, like beef, could in theory pose a public health threat."

    This article is commenting on the discovery that salmon brains also contain the PrP protein,
    which has both a normal form and an abnormal form, the latter of which is responsible for Mad
    Cow Disease.

    They also cause AIDS in lab rats.

    --Blair "RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!"

  10. Dennis G. said:
    Peter Aitken said:

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Farm-raised salmon contain significantly more dioxins and other potentially cancer-
    causing pollutants than do salmon caught in the wild, says a major study that tested contaminants
    in fish bought around the world.

    Full story: cnn.comindex.html

    The benefits of eating salmon for reduction of cardiovascular disease far outweigh the risks
    demonstrated by this study. Hopefully, the public will consider the cost/benefit before rejecting
    salmon as unsafe

    "The salmon farming industry points out that all the pollutant levels are well within the FDA's
    legal limits and says other foods eaten far more often, such as beef, are greater sources of
    exposure."

    --Blair "Chicken Little needed a recipe for acorns, is all."

  11. (snip)

    Quoted message said:


    This will unleash a flood of "I told ya so" posts.

    Fish farming is necessary if we are going to continue to eat fish. I wish the anti-farming side
    would put their energy into creating a better way to farm fish rather than just trying to
    eliminate the idea.

    On the good side, it's a wake up call, much like the mad cow episode of late, to tighten up and
    improve conditions. Of course, alarmists will be alarmists.

    Jaquaculture

    I hear ya, Jack, and I concur. I figure, we're all going to die from something someday anyway. If we
    have to farm our seafood (shellfish and fish) because we're over-populated and depleted our waters,
    so be it. It still tastes good.

    Okay, flamers, go ahead......

    kili

  12. notbob said:


    We need a good plague, or two. Or, put some of that bio-engineering to good use and give the
    human race a lemming gene.

    I thought that was the subtext of war... clean out the gene pool.

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  13. While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking, alzelt of AT&T Worldnet

    Quoted message said:

    So, eat other fish or wild salmon.

    How do I know if the salmon I buy is wild?
    --
    Nikitta a.a. #1759 Apatriot(No, not apricot)#18 ICQ# 251532856 Unreferenced footnotes: nut.house.cxcgi
    bin/nemwiki.pl?ISFN "The best ballerina is an upside down ballerina. (afdaniain)

  14. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This will unleash a flood of "I told ya so" posts.

    Fish farming is necessary if we are going to continue to eat fish. I wish the anti-farming side
    would put their energy into creating a better way to farm fish rather than just trying to
    eliminate the idea.

    On the good side, it's a wake up call, much like the mad cow episode of late, to tighten up and
    improve conditions. Of course, alarmists will be alarmists.

    Quoted message said:

    I hear ya, Jack, and I concur. I figure, we're all going to die from something someday anyway. If
    we have to farm our seafood (shellfish and fish) because we're over-populated and depleted our
    waters, so be it. It still tastes good.

    Okay, flamers, go ahead......

    i think there is a potential for long term damage to a much wider area than just the pens. dumping
    lots of food (and antibiotics) into a pen might do bad things to the bay it is in, and in turn to
    the species that live (or spawn) in that bay, ... in worst case it would all fan out from there.

    in the best case someone would do some science and figure it out - but i'm afraid we are in the
    modern situation now - with "company scientists" on one side and "environmentalist scientists" on
    the other. the reader is left to glean a little bit of the story from either side.

    but fwiw i think damage to areas around the pens is a risk worth considering.

  15. MEow <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking said:

    So, eat other fish or wild salmon.

    How do I know if the salmon I buy is wild?

    If it says Atlantic Salmon it is farmed.

    --
    Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water.
    --------
    FIELDS, W. C.

  16. [email hidden] wrote in news:03oLb.1118$Ix.754
    @newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:

    Quoted message said:

    Not only more dioxins but they are fed pellets made up of rendered bodies of cats and dogs and
    road kill. This mix is sold to farmers who raise the salmon on the east coast and to the chinese
    and thailand farmers of shellfish such as shrimp. All the non-wild fish and shell fish are fed
    this mix. Well now you get to enjoy fido and fluffy twice.

    Cite, please.

    Thanks, Cate

  17. In "]news:[email hidden],
    Cate <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in news:03oLb.1118$Ix.754 @newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:

    Quoted message said:

    Not only more dioxins but they are fed pellets made up of rendered bodies of cats and dogs and
    road kill. This mix is sold to farmers who raise the salmon on the east coast and to the chinese
    and thailand farmers of shellfish such as shrimp. All the non-wild fish and shell fish are fed
    this mix. Well now you get to enjoy fido and fluffy twice.

    Cite, please.

    Thanks, Cate


    You'll only get those same ones he/she posted the last time someone asked him/her for information
    backing up his/her claims. None!

    BOB not believing anything this k00k types

  18. This is the total and complete truth and any one who can use a search engine and find what happens
    to the by products of kennels and humane societies.

    notebook said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not only more dioxins but they are fed pellets made up of rendered bodies of cats and dogs and
    road kill.

    This is total [censored]! Salmon are fed fish protein ...one of the reasons farmed salmon are not really
    eco-friendly.

    The main problem is simply too many people ...period! Thanks to the Pope and other cheaper-by-the-
    dozen cultures, were overgrazing the world pasture.

    We need a good plague, or two. Or, put some of that bio-engineering to good use and give the human
    race a lemming gene.

    "Hey guys, what say we try bungee jumping without the bungee!!?".

    nb

  19. Latest report I read was in the Express Newspaper of Riverside California where they showed barrels
    of dead cats and dogs being process and sent to a rendering factory in Los Angeles and from there
    they make a food for farmed fish and shellfish. It was published about 2-3 weeks ago. Use your
    Google and find out the real truth. Matt

    Cate said:

    [email hidden] wrote in news:03oLb.1118$Ix.754 @newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:

    Quoted message said:

    Not only more dioxins but they are fed pellets made up of rendered bodies of cats and dogs and
    road kill. This mix is sold to farmers who raise the salmon on the east coast and to the chinese
    and thailand farmers of shellfish such as shrimp. All the non-wild fish and shell fish are fed
    this mix. Well now you get to enjoy fido and fluffy twice.

    Cite, please.

    Thanks, Cate

  20. Take a look at the "legal" limits. I don't think a sane person would want to expose themselves to
    this much risk. It is your life, after all, so enjoy your tainted fish and meats. Do a Google
    search...almost any can. Matt

    Blair P. Houghton said:
    Dennis G. said:
    Peter Aitken said:

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Farm-raised salmon contain significantly more dioxins and other potentially
    cancer-causing pollutants than do salmon caught in the wild, says a major study that tested
    contaminants in fish bought around the world.

    Full story: cnn.comindex.html

    The benefits of eating salmon for reduction of cardiovascular disease far outweigh the risks
    demonstrated by this study. Hopefully, the public will consider the cost/benefit before rejecting
    salmon as unsafe

    "The salmon farming industry points out that all the pollutant levels are well within the FDA's
    legal limits and says other foods eaten far more often, such as beef, are greater sources of
    exposure."

    --Blair "Chicken Little needed a recipe for acorns, is all."

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