Global Warming

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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So then Nova has a program telling us that the Sun is actually cooling
off. I wonder how long before we're hearing cries of GLOBAL COOLING again?

Can you say, normal cyclic variations?

Tom: What was the length of the cooling sun cycle Nova spoke of? As in, is
this something we have to worry about in the next 500 years, or 5,000?

Over the short term, the only periodic fluctuations in sun activity that I'm
aware of involve sunspots, and that's what, a 7 or 14-year cycle? Too short
to be a contributing factor to a moderately long-term climate trend. For sun
"cooling" to be a factor, regarding global warming as currently discussed,
I'd think we'd be discussing cycles of maybe 50-500 years. Was that the
case?

Or was it even a "cycle" they were talking about? If it's just a gradual
cooling trend, how does that fit in with "normal cyclic variations?"

Have you discussed any of this with Andre Jute?

Thanks-

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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So then Nova has a program telling us that the Sun is actually cooling
off. I wonder how long before we're hearing cries of GLOBAL COOLING
again?

Can you say, normal cyclic variations?

Tom: What was the length of the cooling sun cycle Nova spoke of? As in, is
this something we have to worry about in the next 500 years, or 5,000?

Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people will be
eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global warming
with nature destroyed utterly.

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people will be
eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global warming
with nature destroyed utterly.

Duh. He was just creating hype for a re-run of "Soylent Green"

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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So then Nova has a program telling us that the Sun is actually cooling
off. I wonder how long before we're hearing cries of GLOBAL COOLING
again?

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Can you say, normal cyclic variations?

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Tom: What was the length of the cooling sun cycle Nova spoke of? As in, is
this something we have to worry about in the next 500 years, or 5,000?

Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people will be
eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global warming
with nature destroyed utterly.

Time for him to write the ELF another check.

http://www.cdfe.org/berman.htm

This doesn't happen according to Howard though. This must have been
perjury.
Bill C

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Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

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Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people
will be
eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global
warming
with nature destroyed utterly.

Time for him to write the ELF another check.

http://www.cdfe.org/berman.htm

This doesn't happen according to Howard though. This must have been
perjury.

Just so there's no mistake - Turner really DID say that the world average
temperature would be 8 degrees hotter and people in the United States would
be eating each other in about 40 years. He also implied that we ought to
kill off a lot of people because it is the population density which is the
problem....

Bill C said:

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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> So then Nova has a program telling us that the Sun is actually cooling
> off. I wonder how long before we're hearing cries of GLOBAL COOLING
> again?

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> Can you say, normal cyclic variations?

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Tom: What was the length of the cooling sun cycle Nova spoke of? As in, is
this something we have to worry about in the next 500 years, or 5,000?

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Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people will be
eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global warming
with nature destroyed utterly.

Time for him to write the ELF another check.

http://www.cdfe.org/berman.htm

This doesn't happen according to Howard though. This must have been
perjury.

Dude,

I don't know what Howard did to get under your
skin, and frankly, I don't care. You can have your
beef, but stop dragging it into every on and off topic
thread. Posting some random stuff from some
think tank hack about how ELF, ALF, Mork and Mindy
bombed a McDonalds has nothing to do with
Ted Turner or global warming. And continually
assigning opinions to other people (Howard in
this case) is similar to the Kunichian "So you think
that ..." mode of argument. Hang people by quoting
their own words, not those of others.

Ben

p.s. Let's have a moment of silence for Pam Dawber,
the first Earthling to be offered up as a sacrifice to the
gruesome, horrifying alien creature known as
"Robin Williams."

Tom Kunich said:

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Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people
will be eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of
global warming with nature destroyed utterly.

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Duh. He was just creating hype for a re-run of "Soylent Green"

With Andouilette. Yummy.

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And continually
assigning opinions to other people (Howard in
this case) is similar to the Kunichian "So you think
that ..." mode of argument. Hang people by quoting
their own words, not those of others.

What's funny about this is the practice of little cowards such as yourself
to not actually say what you mean. Then complain when someone asks you if
you really meant what you almost said.

On Apr 3, 12:45 am, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

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Bill C said:

On Apr 2, 7:35 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

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> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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>> So then Nova has a program telling us that the Sun is actually cooling
>> off. I wonder how long before we're hearing cries of GLOBAL COOLING
>> again?

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>> Can you say, normal cyclic variations?

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> Tom: What was the length of the cooling sun cycle Nova spoke of? As in, is
> this something we have to worry about in the next 500 years, or 5,000?

Quoted message said:

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Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people will be
eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global warming
with nature destroyed utterly.

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Time for him to write the ELF another check.

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http://www.cdfe.org/berman.htm

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This doesn't happen according to Howard though. This must have been
perjury.

Dude,

I don't know what Howard did to get under your
skin, and frankly, I don't care. You can have your
beef, but stop dragging it into every on and off topic
thread. Posting some random stuff from some
think tank hack about how ELF, ALF, Mork and Mindy
bombed a McDonalds has nothing to do with
Ted Turner or global warming. And continually
assigning opinions to other people (Howard in
this case) is similar to the Kunichian "So you think
that ..." mode of argument. Hang people by quoting
their own words, not those of others.

Ben

p.s. Let's have a moment of silence for Pam Dawber,
the first Earthling to be offered up as a sacrifice to the
gruesome, horrifying alien creature known as
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Ben did you read the piece? It's right there in plain laguage. I
throw it in when it's relevant. In this case it's Mainstream leftist
folks providing support and funding for environmental terrorist
nutcases.
The [censored] with Howard is that he flat out denies ANY of this ever
happens, or when confronted with evidence claims it's only a few
nutcases. It's not, unless you consider some of the left's biggest
most influential donors and spokespeople to be nutcases, and
insignificant.
How is it that not relevant?
This whole issue is way to important to be anything but brutally
open, honest, and up front about. Protecting, and funding extremists,
discredits the groups that are doing it. It's bad enough we've got a
bunch on scumbags appointed, and committed to mining and drilling our
public lands here, but when environmental groups, and their supporters
tie themselves to the violent nutjobs it damages all of us.
It let's Tom, and others point to the nutcases and deny everything
they say. Case closed in their minds.
You can't EVER reach a decent understanding, or solution without
hearing ALL the points and connections on an issue, no matter how
ugly, or offensive.

What are the facts? Again and again and again--what are the facts? Shun
wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what "the stars
foretell," avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never
mind the unguessable "verdict of history"; what are the facts, and to
how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your single clue. Get the facts!

Robert Heinlein (1907 - 1988)
Source: Time Enough for Love, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

He was also big on civility, and we KNOW I think Tom fails that
miserably, but so do others towards him. I'd much prefer not to read
any of it.
Bill C

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p.s. Let's have a moment of silence for Pam Dawber,
the first Earthling to be offered up as a sacrifice to the
gruesome, horrifying alien creature known as
"Robin Williams."

Lord have mercy. First it was RicodJour's reference to
Susan Dey and now this. It's only a matter of time until
someone with a boot fetish brings up the original Star
Trek. Maybe it'll be Hoovis, he seems to be on a roll
with that sort of thing.

Bob Schwartz

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On Apr 3, 12:45 am, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

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On Apr 2, 5:17 pm, Bill C <[email hidden]> wrote:

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On Apr 2, 7:35 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

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> > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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> >> So then Nova has a program telling us that the Sun is actually cooling
> >> off. I wonder how long before we're hearing cries of GLOBAL COOLING
> >> again?

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> >> Can you say, normal cyclic variations?

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> > Tom: What was the length of the cooling sun cycle Nova spoke of? As in, is
> > this something we have to worry about in the next 500 years, or 5,000?

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> Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years peoplewill be
> eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global warming
> with nature destroyed utterly.

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Time for him to write the ELF another check.

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http://www.cdfe.org/berman.htm

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This doesn't happen according to Howard though. This must have been
perjury.

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Dude,

Quoted message said:

I don't know what Howard did to get under your
skin, and frankly, I don't care.  You can have your
beef, but stop dragging it into every on and off topic
thread.  Posting some random stuff from some
think tank hack about how ELF, ALF, Mork and Mindy
bombed a McDonalds has nothing to do with
Ted Turner or global warming.  And continually
assigning opinions to other people (Howard in
this case) is similar to the Kunichian "So you think
that ..." mode of argument.  Hang people by quoting
their own words, not those of others.

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Ben

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p.s. Let's have a moment of silence for Pam Dawber,
the first Earthling to be offered up as a sacrifice to the
gruesome, horrifying alien creature known as
"Robin Williams."- Hide quoted text -

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Ben did you read the piece? It's right there in plain laguage.  I
throw it in when it's relevant. In this case it's Mainstream leftist
folks providing support and funding for environmental terrorist
nutcases.
 The [censored] with Howard is that he flat out denies ANY of this ever
happens, or when confronted with evidence claims it's only a few
nutcases. It's not, unless you consider some of the left's biggest
most influential donors and spokespeople to be nutcases, and
insignificant.
 How is it that not relevant?
 This whole issue is way to important to be anything but brutally
open, honest, and up front about. Protecting, and funding extremists,
discredits the groups that are doing it.

I meant to include being funded, and/or puppet fronts for energy/oil
companies here too.
They are just as bad in a different way.

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What are the facts? Again and again and again--what are the facts? Shun
wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what "the stars
foretell," avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never
mind the unguessable "verdict of history"; what are the facts, and to
how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your single clue. Get the facts!

Robert Heinlein (1907 - 1988)
Source: Time Enough for Love, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

He was also big on civility, and we KNOW I think Tom fails that
miserably, but so do others towards him. I'd much prefer not to read
any of it.
 Bill C- Hide quoted text -

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If anyone gives a [censored] this is one of the groups I belong to, and
would highly recommend:
http://www.trcp.org/

and one of their affilliated groups:

http://www.unionsportsmen.org/

Bill C

On Apr 3, 12:16 pm, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>

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p.s. Let's have a moment of silence for Pam Dawber,
the first Earthling to be offered up as a sacrifice to the
gruesome, horrifying alien creature known as
"Robin Williams."

Lord have mercy. First it was RicodJour's reference to
Susan Dey and now this. It's only a matter of time until
someone with a boot fetish brings up the original Star
Trek. Maybe it'll be Hoovis, he seems to be on a roll
with that sort of thing.

I take umbrage with that remark! Susan Dey was _way_ hotter than Pam
Dawber. The only thing that Pam Dawber had going for her was the
willingness to sleep with someone/thing who looks like Robin Williams
- which instills hope in those of us...errr...you less fortunate.

R

RicodJour said:

On Apr 3, 12:16 pm, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>

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p.s. Let's have a moment of silence for Pam Dawber,
the first Earthling to be offered up as a sacrifice to the
gruesome, horrifying alien creature known as
"Robin Williams."

Lord have mercy. First it was RicodJour's reference to
Susan Dey and now this. It's only a matter of time until
someone with a boot fetish brings up the original Star
Trek. Maybe it'll be Hoovis, he seems to be on a roll
with that sort of thing.

I take umbrage with that remark! Susan Dey was _way_ hotter than Pam
Dawber. The only thing that Pam Dawber had going for her was the
willingness to sleep with someone/thing who looks like Robin Williams
- which instills hope in those of us...errr...you less fortunate.

Dude,

Yeah, Susan Dey was hot. Too bad Laurie Partridge and
Marcia Brady never served on the Enterprise.

Bob Schwartz

RicodJour said:

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I take umbrage with that remark! Susan Dey was _way_ hotter than Pam
Dawber. The only thing that Pam Dawber had going for her was the
willingness to sleep with someone/thing who looks like Robin Williams -
which instills hope in those of us...errr...you less fortunate.

Bob Schwartz said:

Yeah, Susan Dey was hot. Too bad Laurie Partridge and Marcia Brady never
served on the Enterprise.

Which one was that half borg with the big breasts ? You could easily
have got assimilated by her breasts if you weren't careful.

Donald Munro said:

RicodJour said:

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I take umbrage with that remark! Susan Dey was _way_ hotter than Pam
Dawber. The only thing that Pam Dawber had going for her was the
willingness to sleep with someone/thing who looks like Robin Williams -
which instills hope in those of us...errr...you less fortunate.

Bob Schwartz said:

Yeah, Susan Dey was hot. Too bad Laurie Partridge and Marcia Brady never
served on the Enterprise.

Which one was that half borg with the big breasts ? You could easily
have got assimilated by her breasts if you weren't careful.

The one that was married to that Senator from Illinois? No, not Obama....

Steve

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

Donald Munro said:

Which one was that half borg with the big breasts ?

Don't act like you don't know. Yes, you even watched Voyager.

Donald Munro said:

Which one was that half borg with the big breasts ? You could easily
have got assimilated by her breasts if you weren't careful.

Ah, yes. I believe her name was "Two-of-Large."

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Donald Munro said:

Which one was that half borg with the big breasts ? You could easily
have got assimilated by her breasts if you weren't careful.

Ah, yes. I believe her name was "Two-of-Large."

Oh no--don't take the brain-boost!

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

Bill C said:

I can't believe, and I'm probably the only one, that I let myself get
sucked in by this [censored] again. I'm about as sick of this as everyone
else is.

A long time ago I concluded that you had a need for
this sort of thing and that's why you are unable to
walk away from it.

For some of us it is the tweaks of Partridge Family
fantasies from adolescence that keeps us here. For
others it is arguing on the internet. What I don't
get are the Mork and Mindy groupies. That's just
not right.

Bob Schwartz