Good complementary exercise to cycling?

"Andrew Swan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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So what's a good complementary exercise to cycling? A cyclist friend had yoga recommended to him
... but even then there are several types. Also there's Pilates, which seems to be very popular
right now. Would this do what I'm looking for?

Either yoga or pilates or just regular thorough stretching, properly done, will do a lot to
complement your cycling - but as with cycling the improvement comes from the constancy in the
sessions you do - ie it has to become a part of your regular routine (yep, another time trap!)

Its not so much in the discipline you choose but in the quality of the instructors - they need to
understand you and work on your flexibility needs progressively and so you understand and get to
enjoy the process. As with a badly set up bike having the capacity to cause pain or even injury,
poor instruction has the capacity to do the same.

Its not just your cycling that will improve - improving your posture and flexibility is a huge
investment in your later enjoyment of life.

best, Andrew

"But riding is my special gift, my chiefest, sole delight; Just ask a wild duck can it swim, a
wildcat can it fight... I'll ride this here two-wheeled concern, right straight away, at sight." A B
'Banjo' Patterson - "Mulga Bill" 25 July 1896.

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So what's a good complementary exercise to cycling?

I swim. As to being complimentary or not I am not sure 🙂

Trevor S

i did karate as well as cycling great for anaerobics as well as flexibility "Trevor S"
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Andrew Swan <[email hidden]> wrote in news:YVgFa.305$um2.7090 @nnrp1.ozemail.com.au:

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So what's a good complementary exercise to cycling?

I swim. As to being complimentary or not I am not sure 🙂

Trevor S

Andrew Swan said:

I've noticed that although cycling keeps me reasonably "cardio fit", I am losing general
flexibility, e.g. when touching my toes. This is despite me stretching my quads, calves, and
hammies during and after my training rides.

Sorry Andrew, but if you are already doing plenty of stretching, it sounds like you may just be
getting older. Putting on any weight? Welcome to the club.

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Also, I'd like to tone my upper body a bit, particularly in the abdominal (i.e. beer gut!) area.

Since you are already fit, I would think weights would be the best way to tone the upper body. Thats
what I do, when I get around to it :-) Swimming is very good for upper body, low impact, and gives
an aerobic workout too. But more bad news, cycling DOES exercise the "beer gut" area.

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Lastly, some extra leg strength would come in handy for climbing and sprinting. I'm guessing
there's more effective ways to get this than just riding lots of hills.

A stationary bike, with adjustable load, is more effective in that you dont loose time getting
there, and riding downhill again.

Quoted message said:

So what's a good complementary exercise to cycling? A cyclist friend had yoga recommended to him
... but even then there are several types.

Yoga!? Thats a religion. A bit like taking up born-again Christianity to improve your singing.

Also

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there's Pilates, which seems to be very popular right now. Would this do what I'm looking for?

Sure, if you want another fad to lighten your wallet. Something a bit more conventional, and
focussed on the upper body might be more effective. In the end, it has to be something you enjoy,
and will keep up. I don't know anything as good as cycling :-)

Age is not the limiting factor in how flexible you are.Check out pandf.com.aupandf.com.auOpen ↗ If you can
get to any of his classes, they are very worthwhile.

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Andrew Swan said:

I've noticed that although cycling keeps me reasonably "cardio fit", I am losing general
flexibility, e.g. when touching my toes. This is despite me stretching my quads, calves, and
hammies during and after my training rides.

Sorry Andrew, but if you are already doing plenty of stretching, it sounds like you may just be
getting older. Putting on any weight? Welcome to the club.

Quoted message said:

Also, I'd like to tone my upper body a bit, particularly in the abdominal (i.e. beer gut!) area.

Since you are already fit, I would think weights would be the best way to tone the upper body.
Thats what I do, when I get around to it :-) Swimming is very good for upper body, low impact, and
gives an aerobic workout too. But more bad news, cycling DOES exercise the "beer gut" area.

Quoted message said:

Lastly, some extra leg strength would come in handy for climbing and sprinting. I'm guessing
there's more effective ways to get this than just riding lots of hills.

A stationary bike, with adjustable load, is more effective in that you dont loose time getting
there, and riding downhill again.

Quoted message said:

So what's a good complementary exercise to cycling? A cyclist friend had yoga recommended to him
... but even then there are several types.

Yoga!? Thats a religion. A bit like taking up born-again Christianity to improve your singing.

Also

Quoted message said:

there's Pilates, which seems to be very popular right now. Would this do what I'm looking for?

Sure, if you want another fad to lighten your wallet. Something a bit more conventional, and
focussed on the upper body might be more effective. In the end, it has to be something you enjoy,
and will keep up. I don't know anything as good as cycling :-)

Mike has clearly never practiced yoga or taken the time to find ot what is. "Mike" <[email hidden]>
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Andrew Swan said:

I've noticed that although cycling keeps me reasonably "cardio fit", I am losing general
flexibility, e.g. when touching my toes. This is despite me stretching my quads, calves, and
hammies during and after my training rides.

Sorry Andrew, but if you are already doing plenty of stretching, it sounds like you may just be
getting older. Putting on any weight? Welcome to the club.

Quoted message said:

Also, I'd like to tone my upper body a bit, particularly in the abdominal (i.e. beer gut!) area.

Since you are already fit, I would think weights would be the best way to tone the upper body.
Thats what I do, when I get around to it :-) Swimming is very good for upper body, low impact, and
gives an aerobic workout too. But more bad news, cycling DOES exercise the "beer gut" area.

Quoted message said:

Lastly, some extra leg strength would come in handy for climbing and sprinting. I'm guessing
there's more effective ways to get this than just riding lots of hills.

A stationary bike, with adjustable load, is more effective in that you dont loose time getting
there, and riding downhill again.

Quoted message said:

So what's a good complementary exercise to cycling? A cyclist friend had yoga recommended to him
... but even then there are several types.

Yoga!? Thats a religion. A bit like taking up born-again Christianity to improve your singing.

Also

Quoted message said:

there's Pilates, which seems to be very popular right now. Would this do what I'm looking for?

Sure, if you want another fad to lighten your wallet. Something a bit more conventional, and
focussed on the upper body might be more effective. In the end, it has to be something you enjoy,
and will keep up. I don't know anything as good as cycling :-)

Ollie said:

Mike has clearly never practiced yoga or taken the time to find ot what is.

"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)" Yoga Yo"ga, n. Skr. y=oga union. A species of
asceticism among the Hindoos, which consists in a complete abstraction from all worldly objects, by
which the votary expects to obtain union with the universal spirit, and to acquire superhuman
faculties.

Of course, some people will package some exercises and meditation and market it as "yoga". I have
nothing against either, just the mystic label.

Sorry Mike, clearly you have taken the time to find out, at least to some extent, what Yoga is. I
jumped the gun a little there. I disagree with some of what you said, but but this is not the forum
to discuss those particular things, as their relevance to cycling is limited. Feel free to email me
personally if you want to- [email hidden] .au To Andrew- I have found both yoga and asana
(the bending and stretching bit, it's most comon outward manifestation) usefull for mountain biking
on both a physical and for want of a better phrase ontological levle. It also helps me to keep trim,
it has a spiritual element to it, but does not require any specific beliefe system to gain benefit
from. Ollie "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Ollie said:

Mike has clearly never practiced yoga or taken the time to find ot what

is.

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"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)" Yoga Yo"ga, n. Skr. y=oga union. A species of
asceticism among the Hindoos, which consists in a complete abstraction from all worldly objects,
by which the votary expects to obtain union with the universal spirit, and to acquire superhuman
faculties.

Of course, some people will package some exercises and meditation and market it as "yoga". I have
nothing against either, just the mystic label.

Andrew Swan said:

Lastly, some extra leg strength would come in handy for climbing and sprinting. I'm guessing
there's more effective ways to get this than just riding lots of hills.

Mate, the best excercise for hill climbing is to climb heaps more hills, really! It isn't a power
sport either, hill climbing needs endurance (I'm assuming you are talking about real hills and not
short sprinter ones).

Sprinting is about power so weight training can help.

GK

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To Andrew- I have found both yoga and asana (the bending and stretching bit, it's most common
outward manifestation) useful for mountain biking on both a physical and for want of a better
phrase ontological level.

Hmmm - had me running for the Macquarie Dictionary there - mistook it for "oncological" at first,
quite a different meaning! Since I'm still not clear what you mean, and I'm still considering yoga,
any chance you could try for a "better phrase"?

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It also helps me to keep trim,

I've heard it can be quite physically demanding, not just bending into unfeasible positions but a
good workout as well.

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it has a spiritual element to it, but does not require any specific belief system to gain
benefit from.

At the risk of getting off-topic, can you please resolve this apparent paradox? And if I just wanted
physical benefits, would I have to profess interest in the spiritual side in order to be accepted
into a class? Are some kinds of yoga more inherently spiritual than others?

&roo

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To Andrew- I have found both yoga and asana (the bending and stretching

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it's most common outward manifestation) useful for mountain biking on

both a

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physical and for want of a better phrase ontological level.

Hmmm - had me running for the Macquarie Dictionary there - mistook it for "oncological" at first,
quite a different meaning! Since I'm still not clear what you mean, and I'm still considering
yoga, any chance you could try for a "better phrase"?

What mean is that it has benefited me on a personal levle. I can focus my mind a lot better (I was
diagnosed as a child with ADD and of several things I have tried yoga is the only thing that that
has made any difference), I find I have more energy, I a am calmer, more productive, I spend less of
my mental energy on winging to myself, when I have been practicing regular yoga. In terms of
mountain biking, I am better equiped to deal with the mental battle of it- being able to remain calm
in the face of my fear, rather than panic lock up the brakes and slide into the nearest rut, is
probably the biggest thing. These benefits are not garanteed just by going to yoga a few times. It's
not instant enlightenment. It requires consistent regular practice with a good teacher.

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it has a spiritual element to it, but does not require any specific belief system to gain
benefit from.

At the risk of getting off-topic, can you please resolve this apparent paradox?

A hindu would explain the benefits I have listed above as being due to my having gained greater
"union with the univesal spirit", to use Mike's words. I don't know wether or not any universal
spirit actually exists. My explanation is more bilogical. I think it's to do with tension being
stored in the body, and also a connection I have expereinced between breath and mental state. That's
an over simplification, but it will have to do.

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And if I just wanted physical benefits, would I have to profess interest in the spiritual side in
order to be accepted into a class?

Very unlikely.

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Are some kinds of yoga more inherently spiritual than others?

I don't know.

If you interested purely in physical benefits such as fitness and flexibility yoga might not be the
thing to do, becaus is the teacher is a good one, he/she will have his attention on teaching you
something that you are notinterested in learning, which would be frustrating for both parties.

I hope that has left you a little less confused. Ollie