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And how do you feel about the IRA, who have killed more people in
terrorist
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bombings than Al Quieda ? Maybe you've not heard of them though, the Brits just got on with it,
and
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didn't declare war on the world the way the USA did when they got hurt. The IRA, a major terrorist organisation have been finance primarily from
the
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USA for over 100 years, and still are. Makes you proud to be Irish- American does it? Try visiting Northern Ireland sometime and touch reality, it may change
your
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way of thinking.
Been there, done that. I don't have anything to do with thugs. I can only be proud/embarrassed by things I've done-- not things other people have
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I don't believe in collective guilt.
And, I did visit Northern Ireland. It sure showed me how the Catholics
have
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been discriminated against, and I'm not even Catholic!
Pat in TX
I felt a bit discriminated against when I nearly got killed by the Guildhall Bomb. I don't like the UDA either, nor any of those thugs, but I didn't start this nonsense about St.Patrick's day.
"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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sniop<
.> The mistake you are making and have made is to assume that there is one
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monolithic idea in the US on any problem in the world. If some Irish Americans send money to the IRA, it doesn't mean that is the face of US policy. People are individuals in this country, not robots in lockstep
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any one ideology or government position. And, a blanket "they were not interested in any measures to prevent terrorism" is just childish
boasting.
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Why? Because you simply do not know what is going on in this huge country.
But you have only one Government to speak for you and its voice is all that the world hears.
Because you simply do not know what is going on in this huge country.
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But you have only one Government to speak for you and its voice is all
that
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the world hears.
Uh, no. That's not all. You make it sound as if we are on an island and no one else hears anything but what the government pronounces. Are you really that daft? You think there are no television sets, no radios, no magazines, no books, no motion pictures, no songs, no people traveling between here and other countries, no relatives in other countries, etc. etc. that people in other countries get information from?
"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Because you simply do not know what is going on in this huge country.
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But you have only one Government to speak for you and its voice is all
that
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the world hears.
Uh, no. That's not all. You make it sound as if we are on an island and no one else hears anything but what the government pronounces. Are you
really
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that daft? You think there are no television sets, no radios, no
magazines,
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no books, no motion pictures, no songs, no people traveling between here
and
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other countries, no relatives in other countries, etc. etc. that people in other countries get information from?
Those noises get drowned out by the roar of jets and the sound of the exploding bombs they drop. There were plenty of good Germans who hated [censored], but we don't remember them much do we? Actions speak louder than words.
"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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I felt a bit discriminated against when I nearly got killed by the
Guildhall
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Bomb. I don't like the UDA either, nor any of those thugs, but I didn't start
this
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nonsense about St.Patrick's day.
What "nonsense" would that be? Saying Happy St. Patrick's Day? Where's
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crime in that? What other holidays do you have a grudge against?
Pat in TX
The 'nonsense' in St.Patrick's day exists in the many Americans who celebrate it as a symbol of their Irish allegiance, based on nothing but folk myths which are irrelevant and misleading regarding the current situation in Ireland. Too many are like the man I met in a bar in Boston Mass. who said he was 'Irish', but when I asked him where he came from he admitted that he'd never been to Ireland, and in fact it was only 2 of his grandparents who have come from Ireland, but based on that alone he contributed to the IRA because 'they stood up for Ireland'. Such was his depth of understanding of the realities of modern Ireland & Britain. I do not believe he was an isolated case, and the IRA are very clever at exploiting the naivety of their supporters. I would suggest that if they're that keen to be Irish, they go and live there for a few years (don't just go and do the tourist thing), they'd soon change their minds I expect. I am not anti-Irish, but I am anti-IRA. And anti RIRA, PIRA, UDA, UDF, UFF etc. etc..and all the mad murderous [censored] who make life there a misery for too many folk. I sound a bit bitter don't I? Well, having people try to blow you up, and kill or maim your friends makes you like that. It is time their supporters realised what they are supporting. Happy Easter.
Oh-oh. Let's hear it for all the unborn chicks. To say nothing of the chocolate-coated crucifixes, the unbiodegradable plastic grass, the murdered pigs with insecticide- coated apples shoved in their broken jaws.
It's way too easy to find fault with any holiday. If you think St.Patrick's day is political, then you're missing the true meaning: green beer, a rowdy parade, green or orange clothes, general silliness. My own attitude toward all holidays is the same. If it is celebrated with food, it's a good day. The holidays with the best food win my allegiance. To hell with their meaning, political or otherwise.
The 'nonsense' in St.Patrick's day exists in the many Americans who celebrate it as a symbol of their Irish allegiance, based on nothing but folk myths which are irrelevant and misleading regarding the current situation in Ireland. Too many are like the man I met in a bar in Boston Mass. who said he was 'Irish', but when I asked him where he came from he admitted that he'd never been to Ireland, and in fact it was only 2 of his grandparents who have come from Ireland, but based on that alone he contributed to the IRA because 'they stood up for Ireland'. Such was his depth of understanding of the realities of modern Ireland & Britain. I do not believe he was an isolated case, and the IRA are very clever at exploiting the naivety of their supporters. I would suggest that if
they're
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that keen to be Irish, they go and live there for a few years (don't just
go
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and do the tourist thing), they'd soon change their minds I expect. I am not anti-Irish, but I am anti-IRA. And anti RIRA, PIRA, UDA, UDF, UFF etc. etc..and all the mad murderous [censored] who make life there a misery for too many folk. I sound a bit bitter don't I? Well, having people try
to
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blow you up, and kill or maim your friends makes you like that. It is time their supporters realised what they are supporting. Happy Easter.
Yeah, you do sound bitter. You are extrapolating what the entire country feels from talking to one guy in Boston. Give it a rest. If you think you have the stamina to go online every year at St. Patrick's Day to try and torpedo everyone's holiday, not only are you sadly mistaken, but you're sort of deranged. Instead of changing the way people think--or the way YOU think people think--you're only isolating yourself as a sorry bloke. And I do mean "sorry" in the way we say it here in Texas.
Uh, no. That's not all. You make it sound as if we are on an island and
no one else hears anything but what the government pronounces. Are you
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really that daft? You think there are no television sets, no radios, no magazines, no books, no motion pictures, no songs, no people traveling
between here and other countries, no relatives in other countries, etc. etc. that people in other countries get information from?
Pat in TX
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Those noises get drowned out by the roar of jets and the sound of the exploding bombs they drop. There were plenty of good Germans who hated [censored], but we don't remember them much do we? Actions speak louder than words.
Oh man, you ARE sick. and pathetic. Now go crawl back under your rock of hate.
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
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Duncan Heenan said:
Happy Easter.
Oh-oh. Let's hear it for all the unborn chicks. To say nothing of the chocolate-coated crucifixes, the unbiodegradable plastic grass, the murdered pigs with insecticide- coated apples shoved in their broken jaws.
It's way too easy to find fault with any holiday. If you think St.Patrick's day is political, then you're missing the true meaning: green beer, a rowdy parade, green or orange clothes, general silliness. My own attitude toward all holidays is the same. If it is celebrated with food, it's a good day. The holidays with the best food win my allegiance. To hell with their meaning, political or otherwise.
Ruth Kazez
Any day with predictable bodily functions is a holiday by definition for me.
