Heavy Legs

Pete <[email hidden]> wrote:
:> Hi all,
:>
:> Just to clarify - long walks are something I have always done and
:> where I live it is very hilly. It is just since I started induction
:> that my legs have gone weak and have the heavy feeling.
:>
:> I have read all the very helpful responses and conclude that 'ascent
:> weakness' described by Atkins may be a sign that I am losing weight
:> too quickly, need to drink more water, use 'no-salt' to replace
:> potassium to fix my electrolyte imbalance, and/or increase my carb
:> intake to 25g (ie. finish induction). It seems that I have lost
:> weight quickly (4 kg in 2.5 weeks - much more quickly than I
:> anticipated), so I will probably do all of the above.
:>
:> Thanks again for the helpful replies and welcome message :-)

People that regularly exercise take a hit on low carb - at first. It does
take your body longer to start to conserve those carb (glycogen) stores for
those times when you exercise. The adaptation period is a YMMV kind of
thing, and it also will depend on the exercise. You can up carbs and do the
other things. You can also lower intensity a bit, too. For example, you
can walk a bit slower. But you're find that eventually things will even out
a bit, provided you aren't exercising with really high intensity. At some
point it is definite that a low carb intake will impact exercise
performance. Some types of movement require glycogen to be present and when
it's not, your body will let you know. But right now you're just suffering
from carb flu 🙂

Thanks again Roger.

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Pete

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Roger Zoul said:

Pete said:

Quoted message said:

Hi all,

Just to clarify - long walks are something I have always done and
where I live it is very hilly. It is just since I started induction
that my legs have gone weak and have the heavy feeling.

I have read all the very helpful responses and conclude that 'ascent
weakness' described by Atkins may be a sign that I am losing weight
too quickly, need to drink more water, use 'no-salt' to replace
potassium to fix my electrolyte imbalance, and/or increase my carb
intake to 25g (ie. finish induction). It seems that I have lost
weight quickly (4 kg in 2.5 weeks - much more quickly than I
anticipated), so I will probably do all of the above.

Thanks again for the helpful replies and welcome message :-)

People that regularly exercise take a hit on low carb - at first. It
does take your body longer to start to conserve those carb (glycogen)
stores for those times when you exercise. The adaptation period is a
YMMV kind of thing, and it also will depend on the exercise. You can
up carbs and do the other things. You can also lower intensity a
bit, too. For example, you can walk a bit slower. But you're find
that eventually things will even out a bit, provided you aren't
exercising with really high intensity. At some point it is definite
that a low carb intake will impact exercise performance. Some types
of movement require glycogen to be present and when it's not, your
body will let you know. But right now you're just suffering from
carb flu 🙂

Pete said:

Hi all,

Just to clarify - long walks are something I have always done and where
I live it is very hilly. It is just since I started induction that my
legs have gone weak and have the heavy feeling.

I have read all the very helpful responses and conclude that 'ascent
weakness' described by Atkins may be a sign that I am losing weight too
quickly, need to drink more water, use 'no-salt' to replace potassium to
fix my electrolyte imbalance, and/or increase my carb intake to 25g (ie.
finish induction). It seems that I have lost weight quickly (4 kg in 2.5
weeks - much more quickly than I anticipated), so I will probably do all
of the above.

For completeness:

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Martha Gallagher said:

Induction flu - a general feeling of weakness (as well as other,
variable symptoms) during the first 2 weeks of the Atkins program is
common and well documented. It passes on its own.

Drinking more water, switching to lite salt, following the
directions of the core process by moving on to OWL on
schedule, all are good ideas. But the biggest cause of
Induction issues is the calendar not anything specific
you're doing. Seriously. Those who don't implement such
good ideas end up four weeks in 28 days later and they
see the Induction issues go away the same as the folks
who do implement the good ideas. Do the good stuff
because it's the right thing to do, not because you want
to react to a perfectly normal predictable sequence of
events.

JC Der Koenig said:

Exercise becomes satsifying after you do it enough to start getting an
endorphin rush. This may take months to get in that kind of shape.

And some people may never develop an endorphin rush. I sometimes get
a second wind, but I don't get a "runner's high," even after several
years of running.

"Beth Friedman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

JC Der Koenig said:

Exercise becomes satsifying after you do it enough to start getting an
endorphin rush. This may take months to get in that kind of shape.

And some people may never develop an endorphin rush. I sometimes get
a second wind, but I don't get a "runner's high," even after several
years of running.

Ok, I accept that as a possibility, because some people will never push
themselves that hard.

It may take months to get in that kind of shape, if ever. YMMV

JC Der Koenig said:

Beth Friedman said:

JC Der Koenig wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Exercise becomes satsifying after you do it enough to start getting an
endorphin rush. This may take months to get in that kind of shape.

Quoted message said:

And some people may never develop an endorphin rush. I sometimes get
a second wind, but I don't get a "runner's high," even after several
years of running.

Ok, I accept that as a possibility, because some people will never push
themselves that hard.

It may take months to get in that kind of shape, if ever. YMMV

Three years of high school soccer didn't do it for me. For
years I thought people were writing fiction when they mentioned
"runner's high" because I never got any endorphin rush no
matter how good a shape I was in.

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Quoted message said:

JC Der Koenig said:

Beth Friedman said:

JC Der Koenig wrote:

Quoted message said:

>Exercise becomes satsifying after you do it enough to start getting an
>endorphin rush. This may take months to get in that kind of shape.

Quoted message said:

And some people may never develop an endorphin rush. I sometimes get
a second wind, but I don't get a "runner's high," even after several
years of running.

Ok, I accept that as a possibility, because some people will never push
themselves that hard.

It may take months to get in that kind of shape, if ever. YMMV

Three years of high school soccer didn't do it for me. For
years I thought people were writing fiction when they mentioned
"runner's high" because I never got any endorphin rush no
matter how good a shape I was in.

Did you ever try running long distance?

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

"Beth Friedman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

JC Der Koenig said:

Exercise becomes satsifying after you do it enough to start getting an
endorphin rush. This may take months to get in that kind of shape.

And some people may never develop an endorphin rush. I sometimes get
a second wind, but I don't get a "runner's high," even after several
years of running.

Ok, I accept that as a possibility, because some people will never push
themselves that hard.

My tendency with any aerobic activity that I enjoy is to push myself too
hard. Then, instead of a high, I just feel sick.

Quoted message said:

It may take months to get in that kind of shape, if ever. YMMV

If I keep my heart rate in the right range, (push myself hard enough to
sweat but not so hard I can't talk), I get a high even in the poor shape
I'm in. I almost always get a high from weight lifting.

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JC Der Koenig said:

Doug Freyburger said:

JC Der Koenig said:

Beth Friedman wrote:
> JC Der Koenig wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>Exercise becomes satsifying after you do it enough to start getting an
>>endorphin rush. This may take months to get in that kind of shape.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> And some people may never develop an endorphin rush.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Ok, I accept that as a possibility, because some people will never push
themselves that hard.

Quoted message said:

Three years of high school soccer didn't do it for me. For
years I thought people were writing fiction when they mentioned
"runner's high" because I never got any endorphin rush no
matter how good a shape I was in.

Did you ever try running long distance?

Longest single run while staying in shape - 6 miles. So no.

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Quoted message said:

If I keep my heart rate in the right range, (push myself hard enough to
sweat but not so hard I can't talk), I get a high even in the poor shape
I'm in. I almost always get a high from weight lifting.

That's also my experience.

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JC Der Koenig said:

Doug Freyburger said:

JC Der Koenig wrote:
> Beth Friedman wrote:
> > JC Der Koenig wrote:

Quoted message said:

> >>Exercise becomes satsifying after you do it enough to start getting
> >>an
> >>endorphin rush. This may take months to get in that kind of shape.

Quoted message said:

> > And some people may never develop an endorphin rush.

Quoted message said:

> Ok, I accept that as a possibility, because some people will never
> push
> themselves that hard.

Quoted message said:

Three years of high school soccer didn't do it for me. For
years I thought people were writing fiction when they mentioned
"runner's high" because I never got any endorphin rush no
matter how good a shape I was in.

Did you ever try running long distance?

Longest single run while staying in shape - 6 miles. So no.

JC Der Koenig said:

"Doug Freyburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

JC Der Koenig said:

Doug Freyburger wrote:
> JC Der Koenig wrote:
>> Beth Friedman wrote:
>> > JC Der Koenig wrote:

>> >>Exercise becomes satsifying after you do it enough to start getting
>> >>an
>> >>endorphin rush. This may take months to get in that kind of shape.

>> > And some people may never develop an endorphin rush.

>> Ok, I accept that as a possibility, because some people will never
>> push
>> themselves that hard.

> Three years of high school soccer didn't do it for me. For
> years I thought people were writing fiction when they mentioned
> "runner's high" because I never got any endorphin rush no
> matter how good a shape I was in.

Did you ever try running long distance?

Longest single run while staying in shape - 6 miles. So no.

I finally got to 7 last week. Trying to work my way up to a 10-mile
run in a single stretch.

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Quoted message said:

Doug Freyburger wrote:
||
|| Three years of high school soccer didn't do it for me. For
|| years I thought people were writing fiction when they mentioned
|| "runner's high" because I never got any endorphin rush no
|| matter how good a shape I was in.

IMO, "runner's high" is the body's way of making you not care so much as
you're dropping dead of that heart attack from pushing your body so
unnaturally hard ...
<g>

Peter

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JC Der Koenig said:

"Beth Friedman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:28:08 GMT, "JC Der Koenig"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>Exercise becomes satsifying after you do it enough to start getting an
>endorphin rush. This may take months to get in that kind of shape.

And some people may never develop an endorphin rush. I sometimes get
a second wind, but I don't get a "runner's high," even after several
years of running.

Ok, I accept that as a possibility, because some people will never push
themselves that hard.

My tendency with any aerobic activity that I enjoy is to push myself too
hard. Then, instead of a high, I just feel sick.

Quoted message said:

It may take months to get in that kind of shape, if ever. YMMV

If I keep my heart rate in the right range, (push myself hard enough to
sweat but not so hard I can't talk), I get a high even in the poor shape
I'm in. I almost always get a high from weight lifting.

Different strokes for different folks...I've never felt a "runner's high". I
also never get a high from weightlifting (though it does make me feel better
the following day).

But, bike rides are a completely different story. I can go out the door
feeling tired and frazzled from work, and within a few miles I'm cranking
out the miles with a smile on my face and a song in my heart. I think it
has something to do with the combination of low-impact intense aerobic
exercise, the technology and skills associated with the sport, and the speed
(love the speed!).

Bottom line - find the sport or activity that gets you highest, and just do
it.

GG

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