Help me eval. my heartrate data

"prometheus7" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I recently purchased a heart rate meter. Now, I'm trying to understand

how

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to characterize my "health/performance" by looking at the stats. I would
appreciate any help about how you might interpret the following: (I'll

make

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the stupid comment on this eve before the Tour for those who want to be
funny....yes I suck compared to a pro racer):

Age 45
Weight 148
One hour ride: 16.6 mph
Max. HR: 186
Avg.: 171
kcal 1276

The ride had some hills, but mainly interupted by intersections.

You'll find that HR is not very good at all as an absolute indicator of
fitness, health, work rate, and so on; but is much better as a relative
measure - relative to oneself. If you have a particular circuit and ride it
in the same conditions at the same speed, and your HR changes, _that_ will
tell you something.

Ignore the "kcal" number. At best it is a guesstimate.

And at 45, you're probably better off looking at the scenery than an LCD.

prometheus7 said:

I recently purchased a heart rate meter. Now, I'm trying to understand how
to characterize my "health/performance" by looking at the stats.

Your heart rate doesn't provide any meaning health/performance info. At
most, it can be used to define and monitor training zones.

To evaluate performance, measure your time on a given course and
compare it to other's... or your earlier times to see if you are
getting better.

Quoted message said:

I recently purchased a heart rate meter. Now, I'm trying to understand how
to characterize my "health/performance" by looking at the stats. I would
appreciate any help about how you might interpret the following: (I'll
make
the stupid comment on this eve before the Tour for those who want to be
funny....yes I suck compared to a pro racer):

Age 45
Weight 148
One hour ride: 16.6 mph
Max. HR: 186
Avg.: 171
kcal 1276

The ride had some hills, but mainly interupted by intersections.

What I find interesting is how little difference there is between your
probably max heart rate (186 is likely within 5 or so of your max) and your
average of 171. That's a pretty high average to carry for a full hour of
riding, about 90% of max (which normally would be beyond a sustainable
effort).

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Quoted message said:

I recently purchased a heart rate meter. Now, I'm trying to understand how
to characterize my "health/performance" by looking at the stats. I would
appreciate any help about how you might interpret the following: (I'll
make
the stupid comment on this eve before the Tour for those who want to be
funny....yes I suck compared to a pro racer):

Age 45
Weight 148
One hour ride: 16.6 mph
Max. HR: 186
Avg.: 171
kcal 1276

The ride had some hills, but mainly interupted by intersections.

What I find interesting is how little difference there is between your
probably max heart rate (186 is likely within 5 or so of your max) and your
average of 171. That's a pretty high average to carry for a full hour of
riding, about 90% of max (which normally would be beyond a sustainable
effort).

My heartrate tends a little high but back in my racer boy days I did a
flat hour mtn bike race, average was 192 and my max was 205 that day. I
think in that time frame my max heartrate was around 212.

Greg

--
"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons

prometheus7 said:

I recently purchased a heart rate meter. Now, I'm trying to understand how
to characterize my "health/performance" by looking at the stats. I would
appreciate any help about how you might interpret the following: (I'll make
the stupid comment on this eve before the Tour for those who want to be
funny....yes I suck compared to a pro racer):

Age 45
Weight 148
One hour ride: 16.6 mph
Max. HR: 186
Avg.: 171
kcal 1276

The ride had some hills, but mainly interupted by intersections.

Your average heart rate seems very high for that speed and a not too
hilly course. HR comes down with cardio-vascular conditioning, so I'm
guessing you just need more time to develop. A high heart rate that
doesn't come down with training might indicate a problem. I know someone
with a leaky valve that has this characteristic.

Hi,

Not trying to scare you or anything but your Avg HR seems a bit high,
so you may want to see a dr about it. Would you happen to know what
your average cadence was at the time of the ride?

One other thing, would you happen to know your resting hr and blood
pressure? Stuff like HR may also be affected by any medication or
stimulants. For example, I suffer from the usual spring time
allergies. If I take stuff like Claritin it tends to elevate my HR and
BP. So I decided to go without it. However, drugs such as beta blockers
tend to drop a persons heart rate.

Javier

prometheus7 said:

I recently purchased a heart rate meter. Now, I'm trying to understand how
to characterize my "health/performance" by looking at the stats. I would
appreciate any help about how you might interpret the following: (I'll make
the stupid comment on this eve before the Tour for those who want to be
funny....yes I suck compared to a pro racer):

Age 45
Weight 148
One hour ride: 16.6 mph
Max. HR: 186
Avg.: 171
kcal 1276

The ride had some hills, but mainly interupted by intersections.

Thanks

Peter Cole said:

prometheus7 said:

I recently purchased a heart rate meter. Now, I'm trying to understand how
to characterize my "health/performance" by looking at the stats. I would
appreciate any help about how you might interpret the following: (I'll make
the stupid comment on this eve before the Tour for those who want to be
funny....yes I suck compared to a pro racer):

Age 45
Weight 148
One hour ride: 16.6 mph
Max. HR: 186
Avg.: 171
kcal 1276

The ride had some hills, but mainly interupted by intersections.

Your average heart rate seems very high for that speed and a not too
hilly course. HR comes down with cardio-vascular conditioning, so I'm
guessing you just need more time to develop. A high heart rate that
doesn't come down with training might indicate a problem. I know someone
with a leaky valve that has this characteristic.

I putting my reply here, as I didn't save the original post.

For the OP, what does your HR do, when you go from hard exertion with
a high rate, to full rest? One sign of a healthy heart, is for it to
drop a minimum of 25 beats in 3 minutes, ideally, even more. If it
stays up there, it could be an indication of a problem, requiring a
medical checkup.

I do agree with others who say your rate seems high, I guess it would
depend on your general level of fitness.
For example yesterday, I rode for 69 minutes, doing what I call a
level 2 ride. That means for the first 2-3 miles, I take it easy
warming up, then I ride hard the rest of the ride. When I say hard, it
isn't balls out, full on exertion.
I'm 51 yrs old, my weight is good, my average was 132, my max 164.

My actual max rate is somewhere in the mid 170s, but the above ride
was mostly flat, with no real hills. Hills is where I seem to hit my
highest rates.

Life is Good!
Jeff

Thank you. Actually, you guys have got me a little concerned. My resting
HR is usually 58. It drops quickly after I stop exertion. I've been riding
"recreationally" for about 4 years, so I would have said I was in good
physical condition. I haven't ridden nearly as much as I would liked this
year.

"Javier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi,

Not trying to scare you or anything but your Avg HR seems a bit high,
so you may want to see a dr about it. Would you happen to know what
your average cadence was at the time of the ride?

One other thing, would you happen to know your resting hr and blood
pressure? Stuff like HR may also be affected by any medication or
stimulants. For example, I suffer from the usual spring time
allergies. If I take stuff like Claritin it tends to elevate my HR and
BP. So I decided to go without it. However, drugs such as beta blockers
tend to drop a persons heart rate.

Javier

prometheus7 said:

I recently purchased a heart rate meter. Now, I'm trying to understand

how

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to characterize my "health/performance" by looking at the stats. I

would

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

appreciate any help about how you might interpret the following: (I'll

make

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the stupid comment on this eve before the Tour for those who want to be
funny....yes I suck compared to a pro racer):

Age 45
Weight 148
One hour ride: 16.6 mph
Max. HR: 186
Avg.: 171
kcal 1276

The ride had some hills, but mainly interupted by intersections.

Thanks

I have some mountain bike race files from about ten years ago where my
average is 190 for two hours and my max was only 210. Heart rate is
not a terribly good reflection of performance for every one.

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Quoted message said:

I recently purchased a heart rate meter. Now, I'm trying to understand how
to characterize my "health/performance" by looking at the stats. I would
appreciate any help about how you might interpret the following: (I'll
make
the stupid comment on this eve before the Tour for those who want to be
funny....yes I suck compared to a pro racer):

Age 45
Weight 148
One hour ride: 16.6 mph
Max. HR: 186
Avg.: 171
kcal 1276

The ride had some hills, but mainly interupted by intersections.

What I find interesting is how little difference there is between your
probably max heart rate (186 is likely within 5 or so of your max) and your
average of 171. That's a pretty high average to carry for a full hour of
riding, about 90% of max (which normally would be beyond a sustainable
effort).

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

prometheus7 said:

Thank you. Actually, you guys have got me a little concerned. My resting
HR is usually 58. It drops quickly after I stop exertion. I've been riding
"recreationally" for about 4 years, so I would have said I was in good
physical condition. I haven't ridden nearly as much as I would liked this
year.

My earlier cite was when I was very fit and 26 to 29 years old. My
resting heartrate was 45 to 50, max heartrate around 212. After that
192 average for an hour my heart rate dropped to 160 immediately at the
end of the race and then very slowly dropped to 85 or so. It took 2 or
3 days of active rest to get back down to a resting of 50. People's
physiology is different. The only person who is going to be able to
give a good assessment of your cardio health is a cardiologist.

Greg
--
"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons

Quoted message said:

I have some mountain bike race files from about ten years ago where my
average is 190 for two hours and my max was only 210. Heart rate is
not a terribly good reflection of performance for every one.

Yep, about the same max heartrate for me. From glancing through my old
notebook for a two hour race my average would be 170 to 185. My racing
buddy at the time had a max of around 190 and at races his would average
between 145 and 155. We usually finished near each other so our output
was similar.

Quoted message said:

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Quoted message said:

I recently purchased a heart rate meter. Now, I'm trying to understand how
to characterize my "health/performance" by looking at the stats. I would
appreciate any help about how you might interpret the following: (I'll
make
the stupid comment on this eve before the Tour for those who want to be
funny....yes I suck compared to a pro racer):

Age 45
Weight 148
One hour ride: 16.6 mph
Max. HR: 186
Avg.: 171
kcal 1276

The ride had some hills, but mainly interupted by intersections.

What I find interesting is how little difference there is between your
probably max heart rate (186 is likely within 5 or so of your max) and your
average of 171. That's a pretty high average to carry for a full hour of
riding, about 90% of max (which normally would be beyond a sustainable
effort).

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

--
"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons

prometheus7 said:

Thank you. Actually, you guys have got me a little concerned.

I wouldn't worry. As you said, you've always had a high heartrate. No
reason to think that it is a problem.

Ron Ruff a écrit :

Quoted message said:

prometheus7 said:

Thank you. Actually, you guys have got me a little concerned.

I wouldn't worry. As you said, you've always had a high heartrate. No
reason to think that it is a problem.

Your choice : listen to the [censored] you read here, follow the advice.
That means your IQ is less than half your resting pulse rate.

Or, go see a doctor. Novel idea, I guess.
They even do tests, on you personally, in the real world.

Perhaps you only wanted us to match numbers with you ?
Measuring penis size next ? Maybe yours factors into your drag
coefficient. I'll be sooooooo impressed.

--

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR
-
The belief in a relation of cause and effect is a superstition.
Wittgenstein, L
Tractatus logico-philosophicus

Sandy said:

Perhaps you only wanted us to match numbers with you ?
Measuring penis size next ? Maybe yours factors into your drag
coefficient. I'll be sooooooo impressed.

If it does, it's a drag. If it doesn't, well, that's a drag too.

Slow Morning Sorni

Are you on any sort of BP meds? I would get it checked out just for
your own piece of mind.

Javier

prometheus7 said:

Thank you. Actually, you guys have got me a little concerned. My resting
HR is usually 58. It drops quickly after I stop exertion. I've been riding
"recreationally" for about 4 years, so I would have said I was in good
physical condition. I haven't ridden nearly as much as I would liked this
year.

"Javier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi,

Not trying to scare you or anything but your Avg HR seems a bit high,
so you may want to see a dr about it. Would you happen to know what
your average cadence was at the time of the ride?

One other thing, would you happen to know your resting hr and blood
pressure? Stuff like HR may also be affected by any medication or
stimulants. For example, I suffer from the usual spring time
allergies. If I take stuff like Claritin it tends to elevate my HR and
BP. So I decided to go without it. However, drugs such as beta blockers
tend to drop a persons heart rate.

Javier

prometheus7 said:

I recently purchased a heart rate meter. Now, I'm trying to understand

how

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to characterize my "health/performance" by looking at the stats. I

would

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

appreciate any help about how you might interpret the following: (I'll

make

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the stupid comment on this eve before the Tour for those who want to be
funny....yes I suck compared to a pro racer):

Age 45
Weight 148
One hour ride: 16.6 mph
Max. HR: 186
Avg.: 171
kcal 1276

The ride had some hills, but mainly interupted by intersections.

Thanks

So you guys got me thinking and here's a question concerning my own
heart rate. I think its good news but it's always nice to double check.
In the past I was averaging 136 BPM during my usual training loop which
consisted of multiple long or steep climbs and long flats. I used to
push a cadence of approximately 100 rpm and my avg speed was about 15 -
16 MPH.

As of this Saturday I found myself using a slightly higher gear (one
cog smaller). But I was still pushing 100 rpm, however my average MPH
was 18-22 MPH and my average HR is now 131.

My climbing HR also dropped from 146BPM to 136-140 but I'm climbing
faster or in a higher gear.

Also, I noticed that a few weeks ago I could push to 151bpm on a flat
for 8 miles and I would be slightly out of breath. Now I noticed that
at 151 bpm the only thing I feel is a little burn in my quads.

Javier

prometheus7 said:

I recently purchased a heart rate meter. Now, I'm trying to understand how
to characterize my "health/performance" by looking at the stats. I would
appreciate any help about how you might interpret the following: (I'll make
the stupid comment on this eve before the Tour for those who want to be
funny....yes I suck compared to a pro racer):

Age 45
Weight 148
One hour ride: 16.6 mph
Max. HR: 186
Avg.: 171
kcal 1276

The ride had some hills, but mainly interupted by intersections.

Thanks

Bill Sornson said:

Sandy said:

Perhaps you only wanted us to match numbers with you ?
Measuring penis size next ? Maybe yours factors into your drag
coefficient. I'll be sooooooo impressed.

If it does, it's a drag. If it doesn't, well, that's a drag too.

Slow Morning Sorni

I thought the shorts were to keep it from dragging.

Joseph

Javier said:

So you guys got me thinking and here's a question concerning my own
heart rate. I think its good news but it's always nice to double check.

Good news... you are in better shape! But you would know that just from
the avg speed.

Quoted message said:

Bill Sornson said:

Sandy said:

Perhaps you only wanted us to match numbers with you ?
Measuring penis size next ? Maybe yours factors into your drag
coefficient. I'll be sooooooo impressed.

If it does, it's a drag. If it doesn't, well, that's a drag too.

Slow Morning Sorni

I thought the shorts were to keep it from dragging.

I have to wear knickers year 'round.

Ron