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  1. Ok. I was doing something else tonight, so I taped this story on
    20//20 claiming that Teflon is very dangerous and will catch it later, but I thought I would ask.

    Is it a valid claim, or just a bunch of reporters taken in by some kooks ala Mission Possible?

  2. "T'h'a'd'd'e'u's L O'l'c'z'y'k" <o,l,c,z,y,[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok. I was doing something else tonight, so I taped this story on
    20//20 claiming that Teflon is very dangerous and will catch it later, but I thought I would ask.

    Is it a valid claim, or just a bunch of reporters taken in by some kooks ala Mission Possible?

    I don't know, but I heard that at the party I went to tonight. Of course it was one of those
    parties where they try to sell you kitchen gadgets. It was said that their products were not
    unhealthy like Teflon.

    --
    Type 2 users.bestweb.net~jbove

  3. It was kook territory. Any pot type could be dangerous if misused (so don't use aluminum pans for
    acidic foods, for example).

    The teflon issue they were raising only comes up if you heat the pan above 500 degrees (F) when it's
    empty. If you boil off the liquid or overheat any pan like that, you'll damage the pan and get some
    vapors coming off it.

    The simple solution doesn't involve litigation, it involves keeping an eye on your stove. (The news
    article also mentionned another medical issue with the teflon, but I couldn't tell if the warning
    was for teflon itself, the production chemicals or byproducts, or what.)

    Cindy Wells (whose mom had the option of inheriting a few pots with warped bottoms from previous
    generations of cooking mistakes)

  4. On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:03:59 GMT, T'h'a'd'd'e'u's L O'l'c'z'y'k

    o said:

    Ok. I was doing something else tonight, so I taped this story on
    20//20 claiming that Teflon is very dangerous and will catch it later, but I thought I would ask.

    Is it a valid claim, or just a bunch of reporters taken in by some kooks ala Mission Possible?


    If Teflon overheats on a stove, the decomposition products are very toxic. Under more normal
    conditions, and at room temperature, teflon is completely inert, and harmless. The hazard comes from
    putting a teflon pan on the stove, at high heat, and forgetting it is there.....

  5. On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:03:59 GMT, T'h'a'd'd'e'u's L

    O'l'c'z'y'k o said:

    Ok. I was doing something else tonight, so I taped this story on
    20//20 claiming that Teflon is very dangerous and will catch it later, but I thought I would ask.

    Is it a valid claim, or just a bunch of reporters taken in by some kooks ala Mission Possible?

    A Teflon coated bullet F******* hurts and is unhealthy, a pair of Teflon coated trousers make for
    stain resistance and showerproof. The Teflon coating in your frying pan, if flaking or damaged -
    especiallly if it one of the earlier generation of coated pans -is dangerous to ingest.

    HTH

    Pete

    Diagnosed 20/03/03 Type II D&E + Metformin + Gliclazide
    + Asprin 210lbs at Dx to target 174lbs achieved. Now 171lbs. To mail: aspen3 at freeuk.com

  6. I have heard that if you let Teflon coated cookware go above 400F it lets off a poison gas. I heard
    that pet birds have died from it. not saying its true just what I heard. ever see the bottom of an
    old Teflon pan? where did all that Teflon go? perhaps your food me - I threw out all my Teflon -
    don't need it - does come in handy sometimes. if im going to fry something - il just use a lil
    olive oil.

    "T'h'a'd'd'e'u's L O'l'c'z'y'k" <o,l,c,z,y,[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok. I was doing something else tonight, so I taped this story on
    20//20 claiming that Teflon is very dangerous and will catch it later, but I thought I would ask.

    Is it a valid claim, or just a bunch of reporters taken in by some kooks ala Mission Possible?

  7. "T'h'a'd'd'e'u's L O'l'c'z'y'k" <o,l,c,z,y,[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok. I was doing something else tonight, so I taped this story on
    20//20 claiming that Teflon is very dangerous and will catch it later, but I thought I would ask.

    I suppose it depends on how much you eat. I seriously doubt that the amount we manage to scrape off
    a flying is going to have much effect.

    Quoted message said:


    Is it a valid claim, or just a bunch of reporters taken in by some kooks ala Mission Possible?

    Well if we're talking reporters here......... 🙂

    Beav

  8. The first stories I heard was in the 1950's. We were using it in missile work and the stories went
    around. But stories went around about aluminum cook ware. I have heard stories about everything we
    have contact with. A few are true. Some need analysis. The true test is the long use without any
    clear problems. Several common items are picked on by some theorist with a bit of truth extended to
    beyond the solar system. Certain ingested "safe" chemicals seem to bring on excesses and strong
    advocacy. I have used Teflon since the early 50's with no identifiable negative results. I worry
    much more about some of the new touted medicines we are using.

    According to a chemist our iron skillets can be a problem. Our bodies produce some very dangerous
    products. On and on.

    Today find a "problem" and develop a fix, then go on TV and get rich.

    Guy

    Julie Bove said:

    "T'h'a'd'd'e'u's L O'l'c'z'y'k" <o,l,c,z,y,[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok. I was doing something else tonight, so I taped this story on
    20//20 claiming that Teflon is very dangerous and will catch it later, but I thought I would ask.

    Is it a valid claim, or just a bunch of reporters taken in by some kooks ala Mission Possible?

    I don't know, but I heard that at the party I went to tonight. Of course it was one of those
    parties where they try to sell you kitchen gadgets. It was said that their products were not
    unhealthy like Teflon.

  9. Cindy Wells <[email hidden]> wrote on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:11:23
    -0600:

    Quoted message said:

    It was kook territory. Any pot type could be dangerous if misused (so don't use aluminum pans for
    acidic foods, for example).

    Yes, indeed. About eight years ago when I was living in Glasgow, it froze up seriously one winter.
    Some pipes in my kitchen burst, with the result that I ended up carrying water through from the
    bathroom into the kitchen in a pressure cooker. A 15 year old boy was staying with me, and he was
    playing on my snake-board (a contraption a little bit like a skateboard, though not very) in the
    hall, just as I was carrying the water through. He overbalanced and fell, knocking his head on the
    pot I was carrying.

    Thankfully, he wasn't badly hurt. It only occurred to me a bit later that if he had been, I could
    have been up on assault (or even murder) charges. Misusing pots is indeed dangerous.

    Quoted message said:

    Cindy Wells (whose mom had the option of inheriting a few pots with warped bottoms from previous
    generations of cooking mistakes)

    --
    Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) Email: [email hidden]; to decode, wherever there is a repeated
    letter (like "aa"😉, remove half of them (leaving, say, "a"😉.

  10. <snip> "Julie Bove" <[email hidden]> wrote in > >>

    Quoted message said:

    I don't know, but I heard that at the party I went to tonight. Of course


    it

    Quoted message said:

    was one of those parties where they try to sell you kitchen gadgets. It


    was

    Quoted message said:

    said that their products were not unhealthy like Teflon.

    --
    Type 2 users.bestweb.net~jbove

    But can their products cure diabetes???? ;>😉 c

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Cindy Wells said:

    It was kook territory. Any pot type could be dangerous if misused (so don't use aluminum pans for
    acidic foods, for example).

    Quoted message said:

    The teflon issue they were raising only comes up if you heat the pan above 500 degrees (F) when
    it's empty. If you boil off the liquid or overheat any pan like that, you'll damage the pan and get
    some vapors coming off it.

    I have been using teflon myself, but if the problem occurse at temperatures as low as 500 degrees F,
    it is not that simple; such things as making pancakes regularly run 350+, and peanut oil is much
    used as it is the only one which does not have a flash point below, I believe, 400. An electric
    frypan has definite hotspots, and I would be surprised if others do not as well.
    --
    This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views are those of the Statistics
    Department or of Purdue University. Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
    [email hidden] Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558

  12. "Colleen" <[email hidden]}> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    But can their products cure diabetes????

    No, but the funny thing is that the woman who was hosting the party kept going on and on about how
    she wasn't able to stick to her diet and she really needed to lose those last few pounds because
    diabetes ran in the family. Personally, I think they were vanity pounds because she didn't look at
    all overweight.

    Anyway... I got tired of hearing them go around the room talking of foods that were just too
    tempting and how they too couldn't stick to their diets. So I said brightly, "I HAVE diabetes! For
    me, sticking to my diet is not a choice!"

    Kind of broke up the party after that. The demonstration foods were some kind of Grecian thingie. It
    was a layer of biscuit stuff topped with a mixture of mayo, sour cream, onions, water chestnuts,
    instant vegetable soup mix, feta cheese, parmesan and probably another thing or two I've forgotten.
    And there was a huge chocolate cake topped with chocolate/caramel glaze. Few people tried the
    Grecian thingie and the only one who ate the cake was my daughter. They wouldn't take the stuff home
    either. One woman merely said "Look at me! Do I look like I need to be eating that?"

    --
    Type 2 users.bestweb.net~jbove

  13. Herman Rubin said:


    In article said:

    It was kook territory. Any pot type could be dangerous if misused (so don't use aluminum pans for
    acidic foods, for example).

    Quoted message said:

    The teflon issue they were raising only comes up if you heat the pan above 500 degrees (F) when
    it's empty. If you boil off the liquid or overheat any pan like that, you'll damage the pan and
    get some vapors coming off it.

    I have been using teflon myself, but if the problem occurse at temperatures as low as 500 degrees
    F, it is not that simple; such things as making pancakes regularly run 350+, and peanut oil is
    much used as it is the only one which does not have a flash point below, I believe, 400. An
    electric frypan has definite hotspots, and I would be surprised if others do not as well.
    --
    This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views are those of the Statistics
    Department or of Purdue University. Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
    [email hidden] Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558

    When I bought my set of T-Fal cookware, the use and care instructions said not to use it over very
    high heat. If I need something super-hot, I'll use the cast iron skillet. Don't really make much in
    the way of cornbread and Dutch Babies anymore...

    RTFM

    Vicki

  14. Herman, the head of a Chemistry department told me stores about some of the compounds possible in
    iron pots and skillets. So we can get alarmed over anything. I went out the front door this AM and
    almost ran of my ramp. Could have fallen to the ground and broken my neck. . So everything is
    dangerous. We have a brain to be prudent.

    When I was a kid I saw a lot of people that refused to ride in an automobile. Pure suicide. It is
    easy to turn an ant hill into a mountain. We learn from experience and I have not heard of many
    problems with Teflon. Diabetics have other issues that are important that do not get enough
    attention. For me shell fish are a disaster, for some penicillin is fatal. There is the possibility
    that a person could be gross nd have problems with Teflon. I don't remember but I think the alleged
    problem had something to do with the release of some cyanide compound. Have never heard of any
    problems. But next week some legal beagle will be filing class action suits. We are a silly bunch.
    This thread started because some one was selling non teflon items. Salesmen-----ugh.

    Guy

    (Herman Rubin) said:
    In article said:

    It was kook territory. Any pot type could be dangerous if misused (so don't use aluminum pans for
    acidic foods, for example).

    Quoted message said:

    The teflon issue they were raising only comes up if you heat the pan above 500 degrees (F) when
    it's empty. If you boil off the liquid or overheat any pan like that, you'll damage the pan and
    get some vapors coming off it.

    I have been using teflon myself, but if the problem occurse at temperatures as low as 500 degrees
    F, it is not that simple; such things as making pancakes regularly run 350+, and peanut oil is much
    used as it is the only one which does not have a flash point below, I believe, 400. An electric
    frypan has definite hotspots, and I would be surprised if others do not as well.

  15. Julie Bove said:

    No, but the funny thing is that the woman who was hosting the party kept going on and on about how
    she wasn't able to stick to her diet and she

    I tried the Teflon diet but I just couldn't stick to it.

    --
    Wes Groleau
    -----------
    I've been framed! ... useit.com9612.html

  16. If memory serves me right, in article <[email hidden]>,

    Wes Groleau said:


    I tried the Teflon diet but I just couldn't stick to it.

    Brilliant!

    Vance Kochenderfer | "Get me out of these ropes and into a [email hidden] | good belt of Scotch"
    -Nick Danger

  17. On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:14:04 -0500, Wes Groleau <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Julie Bove said:

    No, but the funny thing is that the woman who was hosting the party kept going on and on about
    how she wasn't able to stick to her diet and she

    I tried the Teflon diet but I just couldn't stick to it.

    Thx Wes. I needed that.

    Cheers Alan, T2, Oz dx May 2002, diet and not enough exercise.
    --
    Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

  18. Re: Is Teflon dangerous?

    If Teflon overheats on a stove, the decomposition products are very toxic. Under more normal
    conditions, and at room temperature, teflon is completely inert, and harmless. The hazard comes from
    putting a teflon pan on the stove, at high heat, and forgetting it is there.....

    WOW what next?

    case

    the case, minus a few cans!

  19. Want a real dangerous product? Try WOOD. Easily ignites and produces multiple dangerous gases. It
    depends on the viewpoint since everything can be dangerous. If I were selling I would find fault
    with a competitors product if I thought I had a stupid audience.

    I have dealt with dangerous products for most of my working life. That is the reason they are
    limited and controlled.

    On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:37:52 -0500 (EST), [email hidden] (IF YOU CAN'T SWIM DON'T JUMP

    IN) said:


    Re: Is Teflon dangerous?

    If Teflon overheats on a stove, the decomposition products are very toxic. Under more normal
    conditions, and at room temperature, teflon is completely inert, and harmless. The hazard comes
    from putting a teflon pan on the stove, at high heat, and forgetting it is there.....

    Quoted message said:


    WOW what next?

    case

    the case, minus a few cans!

  20. Guy,

    Treated pine (in Australia, at least) produces toxic fumes when burnt. So do some particle boards.

    --
    Henry

    remove spam to reply

    "Guy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Want a real dangerous product? Try WOOD. Easily ignites and produces multiple dangerous gases. It
    depends on the viewpoint since everything can be dangerous. If I were selling I would find fault
    with a competitors product if I thought I had a stupid audience.

    I have dealt with dangerous products for most of my working life. That is the reason they are
    limited and controlled.

    On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:37:52 -0500 (EST), [email hidden] (IF YOU CAN'T SWIM DON'T JUMP

    IN) said:


    Re: Is Teflon dangerous?

    If Teflon overheats on a stove, the decomposition products are very toxic. Under more normal
    conditions, and at room temperature, teflon is completely inert, and harmless. The hazard comes
    from putting a teflon pan on the stove, at high heat, and forgetting it is there.....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    WOW what next?

    case

    the case, minus a few cans!

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