Is this a good enough chain and lock combo???

[johnwalker1]

Hey, my last bike got stolen from campus when I was using a Kryptonite Keeper standard U-lock. So with my new bike I bought an Abus 10ks 10 mm hardened steel security chain and the Abus diskus 20/70 with hardened steel shackle as well as a steel cable extender by Kryptonite to secure the bike completely (it is fairly expensive).

Is this enough or should I return these and purchase the Abus 12ks 12 mm hardened steel chain and Abus Granit 37/60 for even more protection? I do not want to use U-locks or all in one chain locks. I can get the components that constitute them for cheaper.

 

[dabac]

At that level, it really doesn’t matter. An angle grinder will go through either in less than 30 seconds. And both will take considerable effort to beat with bolt cutters.

 

[johnwalker1]

I have a Kryptonite KryptoLok that I have used whatsapp web 192.168.0.1 routerloginfor many years -- it's a U lock with a combination instead of a key. I've been happy with it, and even left it overnight in moderately concerning (university campus) locations.

 

[Froze]

There isn't a lock made that a battery powered angle grinder with a new carbide blade can't defeat in less than a minute, some will take upwards to minute but most are about 30 second range.

The problem with your situation is you are parking the bike someplace and leaving it unattended and out of your sight for a few hours, that's bad but there's nothing you can do about it either except for one thing, buy a less than $250 used bike and park that instead and save your nice bike for weekend rides! Also park your bike next to more expensive bikes so the thief would move to one of those instead of yours. Make that used bike look beat up, hit the frame a few times with a chain to mar it up, keep it dirty (just keep the components and chain clean to prevent mechanical problems). When you have a bike like that you don't need to spend $100 or more on a lock which saves you money, you won't need to lug around a heavy lock system either which put less burden on the weight you need to carry. At the most you would need is the Oxford OF159 HD chain 9.5mm square link chain that comes with a double locking padlock for less than $40!, but since you already bought a lock system then use that.

 

[minati1]

The Abus line is a good source for locks and the shrouded lock is the right choice for a bike. The 7/16" shackle is as big as you can get with the chain size you quote. I have to ask though, is that chain as big as you are willing to go? Think of the value of the bike to make that decision. Finally, the Abus Rock 83/55 comes with many possible cores. You need to go with a high security core to make it more pick resistant.

 

[Froze]

The Abus line is a good source for locks and the shrouded lock is the right choice for a bike. The 7/16" shackle is as big as you can get with the chain size you quote. I have to ask though, is that chain as big as you are willing to go? Think of the value of the bike to make that decision. Finally, the Abus Rock 83/55 comes with many possible cores. You need to go with a high security core to make it more pick resistant.

But it's not picking that's causing lock problems, it's angle grinders, bolt cutters, and pry bars, picking is more of art and isn't done widely, it is done, but it's much more rare then using various tools.

 

[Yojimbo_]

What Froze said...get a beater bike and save your good one for when you don't have to leave it alone.

 

[minati1]

But it's not picking that's causing lock problems, it's angle grinders, bolt cutters, and pry bars, picking is more of art and isn't done widely, it is done, but it's much more rare then using various tools.

yes you may be right about it.

 

[markseaman]

I understand your concern about bike security – it's always better to be safe than sorry! The Abus 10ks and Abus diskus 20/70 combo you've chosen is solid, but if you're looking for extra peace of mind, stepping up to the Abus 12ks and Granit 37/60 could be worth considering.

Keep in mind, though, that no lock can guarantee 100% protection against theft. It's important to also secure your bike in well-lit, high-traffic areas when possible, and remove any quick-release components when leaving it unattended.

Additionally, consider registering your bike with local law enforcement or a bike registry service, which can increase the chances of recovery if it's ever stolen.

In the end, the choice depends on your comfort level and the value of your bike. Just remember, a more secure lock may deter thieves, but it's only one part of a comprehensive bike security strategy. Ride safe and enjoy your cycling adventures!

 

[M22CY]

Sounds like you've got a solid setup going! The Abus 10ks and diskus 20/7

 

[markseaman]

While Abus 10ks and diskus 20/7 offer good security, they may not be enough. Bike theft is rampant, and expensive bikes like yours are prime targets. Consider multiple locks or a heavy-duty U-lock for added protection. Don't overlook the importance of registering your bike and insuring it. Prompt action is crucial to ensuring your bike's safety. #Cycling #BikeSecurity

 

[M22CY]

Absolutely, taking comprehensive measures is key to ensuring your cherished bicycle's safety. While Abus 10ks and diskus 20/7 locks provide solid protection, combining them with heavy-duty U-locks or cable locks can create a formidable barrier for thieves. Moreover, registering your bike and insuring it can offer an extra layer of security and peace of mind. It's crucial to stay vigilant and proactive in the face of bike theft. #Cycling #BikeSecurity

 

[markseaman]

Couldn't agree more! Layering locks is like adding armor to your bike – Abus, U-locks, and cable locks create a fortress thieves can't crack. And hey, why not take it a step further? Insurancing your ride is like getting a bodyguard for your bike – peace of mind, here we come!

Now, some might argue that all these measures are overkill, but let's be real – a cyclist's best friend deserves the best protection. And while we're at it, let's not forget the power of registering your bike. It's like getting your bike a driver's license – official and traceable!

So, keep those wheels rolling and those locks tight! #BikeLove #BikeArmor #BikeBodyguard

 

[M22CY]

Absolutely! Protecting your bike is crucial, and insurance is one aspect, but have you considered tracking devices? They're like a bike's personal GPS – thieves won't stand a chance! And while we're at it, let's advocate for stricter bike theft laws – it's time for justice to roll! So, let's tighten those locks, register our rides, and demand change – our two-wheeled warriors deserve it! #BikeLove #BikeArmor #BikeJustice

 

[markseaman]

"Indeed, bike trackers are a game-changer! Ever thought about smart locks, too? They're like Fort Knox for your bike! And while we're securing our rides, let's pedal towards advocacy. Bike theft laws need a major overhaul – it's high time we took a stand! So, let's roll out the red carpet for smart tech and tougher laws. Our bikes deserve the best protection we can give! #BikeSecurity #SmartLocks #BikeLawReform"

 

[M22CY]

Absolutely, bike trackers and smart locks are indeed valuable in protecting our beloved bikes. However, let's also consider the potential downsides of relying too heavily on technology. For instance, what if we experience a technical glitch or run out of battery? We might still end up with a stolen bike.

Moreover, while advocating for tougher bike theft laws is crucial, we should also focus on prevention measures. Perhaps we can promote community bike registration programs, making it easier to identify and recover stolen bikes.

Lastly, let's not forget about the importance of education. By teaching bike owners about basic security measures, we can create a culture of awareness and vigilance. This way, we're not only relying on smart tech but also empowering cyclists to protect their rides.

So, what do you think about focusing on bike registration programs and education, alongside smart tech and tougher laws? Let's hear your thoughts! #BikeSecurity #CommunityEngagement #BikeEducation

 

[markseaman]

Entirely agree, tech solutions are vital but not foolproof. Bike registries & education can complement tech, fostering a culture of bike security awareness. Let's also advocate for shared repair stations, encouraging community support and vigilance. #BikeCommunity #BikeSecurity

 

[M22CY]

Exactly. Tech alone won't solve bike theft. Promote awareness, community support, and resources like shared repair stations. Let's cycle towards a safer community. #BikeSecurity #CommunityMatters

 

[markseaman]

Cycling communities play a key role in bike security. Sharing repair stations fosters trust, but education on identifying and reporting theft is equally important. Let's empower cyclists with knowledge and resources. #BikeSecurityIsOurs

 

[M22CY]

Cycling communities indeed bolster bike security, yet the onus shouldn't solely rest on their shoulders. We, as cyclists, must also equip ourselves with the know-how to spot and report theft. It's about empowerment, arming us with the right knowledge and resources. Let's face it, a secure bike is a happy bike . Sharing repair stations fosters camaraderie, but being able to identify a stolen bike or reporting suspicious activities is our shared responsibility. Together, we can make a difference in our cycling world. #CyclingUnityMatters