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  1. I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    religious/cultural context, that is not the question. What I
    am curious about is the gastromonical effect of kosher salt.

    In what way is kosher salt different from (more or less)
    pure sodium chloride?

    Is the difference clearly noticable so that if a recipe
    specified kosher and you used standard cooking salt (or vice
    versa) that you would easily taste it?

    David

  2. David Hare-Scott said:

    I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    religious/cultural context, that is not the question.
    What I am curious about is the gastromonical effect of
    kosher salt.

    In what way is kosher salt different from (more or less)
    pure sodium chloride?

    Is the difference clearly noticable so that if a recipe
    specified kosher and you used standard cooking salt (or
    vice versa) that you would easily taste it?

    David

    All salt is kosher, unless you go out of your way to
    contaminate it with pork or shrimp, etc. -- just like
    vegetables are kosher.

    "Kosher" salt is a misnomer. It should be "koshering" salt;
    koshering is the process of salting a chicken or piece of
    meat to draw all the blood out of it. Koshering salt is
    rather larger crystal than table salt and has been milled
    into little flakes to increase its surface area.

    Kosher salt is fluffier than table salt or pickling salt, so
    if a recipe calls for kosher salt and you substitute table
    salt you should reduce the amount. I would use half the
    amount called for in the recipe, then add a little
    additional salt to taste.

    Best regards, Bob

  3. "David Hare-Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    religious/cultural context, that is not the question.
    What I am curious about is the gastromonical effect of
    kosher salt.

    In what way is kosher salt different from (more or less)
    pure sodium chloride?

    Is the difference clearly noticable so that if a recipe
    specified kosher and you used standard cooking salt (or
    vice versa) that you would easily taste it?

    David

    All the salts (NaCl) used for cooking by man aren't pure.
    There are other trace minerals in them. This salt ain't made
    in a lab it is either mined or made by evaporation methods.
    These trace minerals and any additives make for taste
    differences.

    Most if not all boxes of salt sold as "table salt" have
    iodine (sp??) in them, as well as a good chance of some
    sort of anti clumping agent (most likely Corn
    Starch/flour). The Iodine is to reduce gouter type
    problems. If you eat seafood regularly you shouldn't need
    introduced iodine, but I'm not a doctor.

    Kosher Salt has no additives. If you find Kosher Salt too
    expensive...buy course pickling salt...it too has no
    additives.

    Also kosher salt comes in a larger crystal/grain/flake than
    table salt. Which means that volume measurements for kosher
    salt (like a tsp or 1/4 cup) use less salt (by weight) than
    the smaller grain table salt, so kosher salted recipes tend
    to be less salty in taste. Kinda like the pound of feathers
    versus the pound of iron thingie but not so obvious.

    Kosher salt is easier to add to items by hand (Spinkle on
    things). Easier to control amounts. Because you select by
    hand the amount you use, not guess how much is coming out of
    a shaker. The area above a hot pan/pot can be very humid and
    plug up your shaker's holes.

    There is a very minor taste difference (at least to me)
    between table salt, kosher salt, sea salt and pickling
    salt. This might be a mental thing. But all salt (NaCl),
    used for cooking, basically comes from the sea...It is just
    some seas dried up thousands of years ago and others are
    still around today.

    Salt can also collect odors/tastes from the air. Example:
    Some of the humid air that comes from a pot of boiling
    cabbage will be extracted by any salt near by...slightly
    changing the taste of your table salt over time/exposure.

    --
    Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on
    nothing but food and water.
    --------
    FIELDS, W. C.

  4. "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    David Hare-Scott said:

    I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    religious/cultural


    context,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that is not the question. What I am curious about is the


    gastromonical

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    effect of kosher salt.

    In what way is kosher salt different from (more or
    less) pure


    sodium

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    chloride?

    Is the difference clearly noticable so that if a recipe
    specified


    kosher and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you used standard cooking salt (or vice versa) that
    you would


    easily taste

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it?

    David



    Snip>>>>
    Hummm....

    Is it just me but I find kosher salt tastes much different
    from table salt. I think table salt is a little bitter and
    on the "chemical" side.

    I love the big ole kosher stuff and use it all the time.
    Liberal sprinkle on a bagel with cream cheese...Ummmmm.

  5. Mwestport said:

    I love the big ole kosher stuff and use it all the time.
    Liberal sprinkle on a bagel with cream cheese...Ummmmm.

    Ummmmm what? Finish the friggin' thought! 🙂

    ~john

    --
    "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a
    civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will
    be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will
    follow our lead into the future!" -- Adolph [censored], 1935

    "Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a
    step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." --
    Janet Reno US Attorney General

  6. David Hare-Scott said:

    I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    religious/cultural context, that is not the question.
    What I am curious about is the gastromonical effect of
    kosher salt.

    In what way is kosher salt different from (more or less)
    pure sodium chloride?

    It *is* pure sodium chloride. Table salt has iodine added as
    well as anti-clumping agents.

    Quoted message said:

    Is the difference clearly noticable so that if a recipe
    specified kosher and you used standard cooking salt (or
    vice versa) that you would easily taste it?

    I dunno about that, I use only kosher salt when cooking. To
    my tastes it's "saltier" than table salt, which has a
    chemical taste to me.

    --
    Darryl L. Pierce <[email hidden]> Visit the Infobahn
    Offramp - <http://mypage.org/mcpierce> "What do you care
    what other people think, Mr. Feynman?"

  7. hahabogus said:

    "David Hare-Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:74x2c.90986$Wa.43803@news-
    server.bigpond.net.au:

    Quoted message said:

    I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    religious/cultural context, that is not the question.
    What I am curious about is the gastromonical effect of
    kosher salt.

    In what way is kosher salt different from (more or less)
    pure sodium chloride?

    Is the difference clearly noticable so that if a recipe
    specified kosher and you used standard cooking salt (or
    vice versa) that you would easily taste it?

    David

    All the salts (NaCl) used for cooking by man aren't pure.
    There are other trace minerals in them. This salt ain't
    made in a lab it is either mined or made by evaporation
    methods. These trace minerals and any additives make for
    taste differences.

    Most if not all boxes of salt sold as "table salt" have
    iodine (sp??) in them, as well as a good chance of some
    sort of anti clumping agent (most likely Corn
    Starch/flour). The Iodine is to reduce gouter type
    problems. If you eat seafood regularly you shouldn't need
    introduced iodine, but I'm not a doctor.

    If the salt is iodized, it will say so (in large type)
    on the package. Much table salt is not iodized. The anti-
    clumping agent is sodium ferrocyanide, a.k.a. "yellow
    prussate of soda" (sp?) so the cyanide part doesn't
    scare people.

    Quoted message said:

    Kosher Salt has no additives. If you find Kosher Salt too
    expensive...buy course pickling salt...it too has no
    additives.

    Wrong. Some kosher salt contains sodium prussate (sp?), just
    like table salt. I know Morton's kosher salt has contains
    additives, and it is labled "kosher for Passover". IIRC,
    Diamond kosher salt does not have anticaking additives.

    If you want the purest salt possible, buy "pickling salt".

    Best regards, Bob

  8. hahabogus said:

    Kosher Salt has no additives.

    Nope. Some kosher salt has anti-caking agents, 'though
    no iodiine.

    mortonsalt.comkosh
    ersalt.htm

    Quoted message said:

    If you find Kosher Salt too expensive...buy course pickling
    salt...it too has no additives.

    This appears to be true.

  9. Quoted message said:

    "Darryl L. Pierce"

    David Hare-Scott said:

    I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    religious/cultural context, that is not the question.
    What I am curious about is the gastromonical effect of
    kosher salt.

    In what way is kosher salt different from (more or less)
    pure sodium chloride?

    It *is* pure sodium chloride. Table salt has iodine added
    as well as anti-clumping agents.

    Not all table salt has iodine added, vast majority doesn't.
    ALL salt is kosher... all the Earth's seas are kosher, the
    entire planet too! "Kosher Salt" refers to its use,
    kashering meats... like pretzel salt is for dressing
    pretzels... and some brands of kosher salt do indeed
    contain anti clumping compounds... and so what, all
    chemicals are kosher... do you think Jews go only to
    special kosher pharmacys???? You probably think Jew doctors
    write special kosher prescriptions. duh! What friggin'
    idiots. Anyone dares have the name Darryl L. Pierce has got
    to be anti semitic. Archie Bunker has nothing on you,
    ignorant beetneck!

    ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED
    NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be
    devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

  10. PENMART01 said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Darryl L. Pierce"

    David Hare-Scott said:

    I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    religious/cultural context, that is not the question.
    What I am curious about is the gastromonical effect of
    kosher salt.

    In what way is kosher salt different from (more or less)
    pure sodium chloride?

    It *is* pure sodium chloride. Table salt has iodine added
    as well as anti-clumping agents.

    Not all table salt has iodine added, vast majority
    doesn't. ALL salt is kosher... all the Earth's seas are
    kosher, the entire planet too! "Kosher Salt" refers to its
    use, kashering meats... like pretzel salt is for dressing
    pretzels... and some brands of kosher salt do indeed
    contain anti clumping compounds... and so what, all
    chemicals are kosher... do you think Jews go only to
    special kosher pharmacys???? You probably think Jew
    doctors write special kosher prescriptions. duh! What
    friggin' idiots. Anyone dares have the name Darryl L.
    Pierce has got to be anti semitic. Archie Bunker has
    nothing on you, ignorant beetneck!

    ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move
    UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life
    would be devoid of all meaning were it without
    tribulation."

    Actually that's not the case entirely. I remember a friend
    physician of mine, who had to write a Rx for a medication so
    that the pharmacist can modify it to make it kosher for
    passover. I just don't remember the medication.

    Rich

    --
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    Dum spiro, spero. (Cicero) As long as I breathe, I hope.

  11. "PENMART01" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Darryl L. Pierce"

    David Hare-Scott said:

    I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    religious/cultural


    context,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that is not the question. What I am curious about is
    the gastromonical effect of kosher salt.

    In what way is kosher salt different from (more or
    less) pure sodium chloride?

    It *is* pure sodium chloride. Table salt has iodine added
    as well as anti-clumping agents.

    Not all table salt has iodine added, vast majority
    doesn't. ALL salt is kosher... all the Earth's seas are
    kosher, the entire planet too! "Kosher Salt" refers to its
    use, kashering meats... like pretzel salt is for


    dressing

    Quoted message said:

    pretzels... and some brands of kosher salt do indeed
    contain anti clumping compounds... and so what, all
    chemicals are kosher... do you think Jews go


    only

    Quoted message said:

    to special kosher pharmacys???? You probably think Jew
    doctors write


    special

    Quoted message said:

    kosher prescriptions. duh! What friggin' idiots. Anyone
    dares have the


    name

    Quoted message said:

    Darryl L. Pierce has got to be anti semitic. Archie Bunker
    has nothing


    on

    Quoted message said:

    you, ignorant beetneck!

    Some medications are not kosher as they are made from organs
    of a non kosher animal, such as a pig. Doesn't mean the
    presciption itself is kosher. I found this....

    Question: How is it that G-d placed some of the Refua for
    various sicknesses in non Kosher animals? As a result a
    person who keeps Kosher has no choice but to take a
    medication that is produced from a non Kosher animal.

    Answer: The animals that aren't kosher are forbidden not
    because of themselves, but because Hashem said so. When one
    is sick and has to eat a non kosher animal because of
    Pikuach Nefesh he has the Mitzva of Kashrut on one side and
    the Mitzva of "Vechai Bahem" (one should perform the Mitzvot
    and live) on the other. Since Pikuach Nefesh outweighs
    Kashrut, the situation is not that he is eating non kosher
    but he has no choice, rather the animal is not at all
    forbidden anymore, at this time, for this person. That is
    what Hashem wanted, and the prohibition is no longer valid
    for this person.

    Rabbi Ro'i Margalit

  12. Richard Periut said:
    PENMART01 said:

    [snip] compounds... and so what, all chemicals are
    kosher... do you think Jews go only to special kosher
    pharmacys???? You probably think Jew doctors write
    special kosher prescriptions. duh! What friggin' idiots.

    Actually that's not the case entirely. I remember a friend
    physician of mine, who had to write a Rx for a medication
    so that the pharmacist can modify it to make it kosher for
    passover. I just don't remember the medication.

    Rich

    Penicillin? Or something with dextrose in it?

    If it's not kosher, there's nothing the pharmacist can do to
    modify it and fix it, but maybe there's an alternate
    formulation that is kosher (or kosher for passover).

    Best regards, Bob

  13. Orion said:

    "PENMART01" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040307163657.02968.00000940@mb-
    m15.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Darryl L. Pierce"

    David Hare-Scott wrote:

    >I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    >religious/cultural

    context,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >that is not the question. What I am curious about is the
    >gastromonical effect of kosher salt.
    >
    >In what way is kosher salt different from (more or less)
    >pure sodium chloride?

    It *is* pure sodium chloride. Table salt has iodine added
    as well as anti-clumping agents.

    Not all table salt has iodine added, vast majority
    doesn't. ALL salt is kosher... all the Earth's seas are
    kosher, the entire planet too! "Kosher Salt" refers to its
    use, kashering meats... like pretzel salt is for

    dressing

    Quoted message said:

    pretzels... and some brands of kosher salt do indeed
    contain anti clumping compounds... and so what, all
    chemicals are kosher... do you think Jews go

    only

    Quoted message said:

    to special kosher pharmacys???? You probably think Jew
    doctors write

    special

    Quoted message said:

    kosher prescriptions. duh! What friggin' idiots. Anyone
    dares have the

    name

    Quoted message said:

    Darryl L. Pierce has got to be anti semitic. Archie Bunker
    has nothing

    on

    Quoted message said:

    you, ignorant beetneck!

    Some medications are not kosher as they are made from
    organs of a non kosher animal, such as a pig. Doesn't mean
    the presciption itself is kosher. I found this....

    Question: How is it that G-d placed some of the Refua for
    various sicknesses in non Kosher animals? As a result a
    person who keeps Kosher has no choice but to take a
    medication that is produced from a non Kosher animal.

    Answer: The animals that aren't kosher are forbidden not
    because of themselves, but because Hashem said so. When
    one is sick and has to eat a non kosher animal because of
    Pikuach Nefesh he has the Mitzva of Kashrut on one side
    and the Mitzva of "Vechai Bahem" (one should perform the
    Mitzvot and live) on the other. Since Pikuach Nefesh
    outweighs Kashrut, the situation is not that he is eating
    non kosher but he has no choice, rather the animal is not
    at all forbidden anymore, at this time, for this person.
    That is what Hashem wanted, and the prohibition is no
    longer valid for this person.

    Rabbi Ro'i Margalit


    There are medications that are injected, which are derived
    from pork intestines. In the glatt kosher hospital I
    frequent, the rabbi has stated that since it's not ingested,
    it's allowed. Same thing for the Shabbos elevator; you don't
    have to press (light) nothing; it's automatic and opens and
    closes on every floor.

    Rich

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    -----------------------------------------------------------
    ----------

    Dum spiro, spero. (Cicero) As long as I breathe, I hope.

  14. "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If the salt is iodized, it will say so (in large type)
    on the package. Much table salt is not iodized. The anti-
    clumping agent is sodium ferrocyanide, a.k.a. "yellow
    prussate of soda" (sp?) so the cyanide part doesn't
    scare people.

    Quoted message said:

    Kosher Salt has no additives. If you find Kosher
    Salt too


    expensive...buy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    course pickling salt...it too has no additives.

    Wrong. Some kosher salt contains sodium prussate (sp?),
    just like table salt. I know Morton's kosher salt has
    contains additives, and it is


    labled

    Quoted message said:

    "kosher for Passover". IIRC, Diamond kosher salt does not
    have anticaking additives.

    If you want the purest salt possible, buy "pickling salt".

    Best regards, Bob

    Well you learn something every day. I would have never
    imagined it - but it is the case that sodium ferrocyanide is
    an approved additive to salt in some countries.

    Just a broad observation (not directed specifically at Bob),
    I find that many generalisations made in NGs are biased
    towards what is available in the USA and the practices
    common there. This is quite understandable as a large number
    of participants are from there but it means that the
    international reader has to filter and evaluate what he/she
    reads even when everybody says it is so.

    {Long intense threads about the relative merits of brand
    names that I have never heard of make me glaze over :-) OTOH
    I learn things here that I wouldn't 'staying at home'.}

    So far I have determined that "table salt" and "cooking
    salt" mean different things around the world and the
    additives that salts do or don't have also varies
    considerably, kosher salt is probably the same. So off I go
    to buy some kosher salt (whatever that may be in Oz) and
    find out for myself.

    Thanks for the information.

    David

  15. zxcvbob said:
    Richard Periut said:

    PENMART01 wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [snip]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    compounds... and so what, all chemicals are kosher... do
    you think Jews go only to special kosher pharmacys????
    You probably think Jew doctors write special kosher
    prescriptions. duh! What friggin' idiots.

    Actually that's not the case entirely. I remember a
    friend physician of mine, who had to write a Rx for a
    medication so that the pharmacist can modify it to make
    it kosher for passover. I just don't remember the
    medication.

    Rich

    Penicillin? Or something with dextrose in it?

    If it's not kosher, there's nothing the pharmacist can do
    to modify it and fix it, but maybe there's an alternate
    formulation that is kosher (or kosher for passover).

    Best regards, Bob

    That's what I meant; a modification in the compound, not a
    modification of a molecular substance.

    Rich

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    Dum spiro, spero. (Cicero) As long as I breathe, I hope.

  16. "Richard Periut" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Orion said:

    "PENMART01" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040307163657.02968.00000940@mb-
    m15.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:

    >"Darryl L. Pierce"
    >
    >David Hare-Scott wrote:
    >
    >
    >>I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    >>religious/cultural

    context,

    Quoted message said:

    >>that is not the question. What I am curious about
    >>is the


    gastromonical

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>effect of kosher salt.
    >>
    >>In what way is kosher salt different from (more or
    >>less) pure sodium chloride?
    >
    >It *is* pure sodium chloride. Table salt has iodine
    >added as well as anti-clumping agents.

    Not all table salt has iodine added, vast majority
    doesn't. ALL salt is kosher... all the Earth's seas are
    kosher, the entire planet too!


    "Kosher

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Salt" refers to its use, kashering meats... like pretzel
    salt is for

    dressing

    Quoted message said:

    pretzels... and some brands of kosher salt do indeed
    contain anti


    clumping

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    compounds... and so what, all chemicals are kosher... do
    you think Jews


    go

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    only

    Quoted message said:

    to special kosher pharmacys???? You probably think Jew
    doctors write

    special

    Quoted message said:

    kosher prescriptions. duh! What friggin' idiots. Anyone
    dares have the

    name

    Quoted message said:

    Darryl L. Pierce has got to be anti semitic. Archie
    Bunker has nothing

    on

    Quoted message said:

    you, ignorant beetneck!

    Some medications are not kosher as they are made from
    organs of a non


    kosher

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    animal, such as a pig. Doesn't mean the presciption
    itself is kosher.


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    found this....

    Question: How is it that G-d placed some of the Refua
    for various sicknesses in


    non

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Kosher animals? As a result a person who keeps Kosher
    has no choice but to take a


    medication

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that is produced from a non Kosher animal.

    Answer: The animals that aren't kosher are forbidden not
    because of themselves,


    but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    because Hashem said so. When one is sick and has to eat
    a non kosher


    animal

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    because of Pikuach Nefesh he has the Mitzva of Kashrut
    on one side and


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Mitzva of "Vechai Bahem" (one should perform the Mitzvot
    and live) on


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    other. Since Pikuach Nefesh outweighs Kashrut, the
    situation is not that


    he

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is eating non kosher but he has no choice, rather the
    animal is not at


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    forbidden anymore, at this time, for this person. That
    is what Hashem wanted, and the prohibition is no longer
    valid for this person.

    Rabbi Ro'i Margalit


    There are medications that are injected, which are derived
    from pork intestines. In the glatt kosher hospital I
    frequent, the rabbi has stated that since it's not
    ingested, it's allowed. Same thing for the Shabbos
    elevator; you don't have to press (light) nothing; it's
    automatic and opens and closes on every floor.

    Rich


    how interesting! Makes perfect sense, that the elevators
    would open automatically, but have never been in a kosher
    hospital. Thanks for the insight.

    Suzan

  17. Richard Periut said:

    That's what I meant; a modification in the compound, not a
    modification of a molecular substance.

    Rich

    I thought you meant add some kind of kosherizing agent, or
    maybe say the right incantation ;-)

    -Bob

  18. PENMART01 said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    religious/cultural context, that is not the question.
    What I am curious about is the gastromonical effect of
    kosher salt.

    In what way is kosher salt different from (more or less)
    pure sodium chloride?

    It *is* pure sodium chloride. Table salt has iodine added
    as well as anti-clumping agents.

    Not all table salt has iodine added, vast majority
    doesn't.

    Do you mean in the US or across the globe? I've never seen
    table salt that didn't have iodine added, but then I only
    ever see Morton's and the store brand every place...

    Quoted message said:

    ALL salt is kosher... all the Earth's seas are kosher, the
    entire planet too! "Kosher Salt" refers to its use,
    kashering meats... like pretzel salt is for dressing
    pretzels... and some brands of kosher salt do indeed
    contain anti clumping compounds...

    Thanks for the info. Actually, I seem to remember you
    pointing this out to me previously and it must've
    slipped my mind.

    Quoted message said:

    and so what, all chemicals are kosher... do you think Jews
    go only to special kosher pharmacys???? You probably think
    Jew doctors write special kosher prescriptions. duh! What
    friggin' idiots. Anyone dares have the name Darryl L.
    Pierce has got to be anti semitic. Archie Bunker has
    nothing on you, ignorant beetneck!

    Is that like a darker shade of redneck? 🙂

    --
    Darryl L. Pierce <[email hidden]> Visit the Infobahn
    Offramp - <http://mypage.org/mcpierce> "What do you care
    what other people think, Mr. Feynman?"

  19. Not too much disagreement on my part. I'm a chemist and
    agree that salt is sodium chloride (NaCl). Impurities have
    little influence upon its taste. What does is particle size,
    i.e. how finely it is ground. The finer it is the greater
    the surface area that is in contact with the tongue and the
    bigger the hit. There are some qualifiers. Kosher salt is
    prilled, i.e. fused and sprayed into a tower. As it falls
    down the tower it solidifies into the form with the smallest
    surface area, namely spheres. This form has the least
    surface area per unit weight so will taste less salty. When
    crystallized from solution, it will have a much greater
    suface area per unit weight because it has a cubic structure
    so will appear to be saltier. If I could draw pictures on
    Usenet I could make it clearer...sigh!

    As far as the fineness argument goes find the coarsest sugar
    (or salt) you can. Put some on your tongue. Crush some on a
    hard surface with the back of a spoon, taste it again. Whiz
    it in a spice or coffee blender (clean), taste again. You'll
    taste the difference.

    When it's in solution it makes no difference, salt is salt.
    Weight for weight there is no difference, when you measure
    by volume, bulk density will make a difference. The European
    way of weighing ingredients works so much better.

    Robin

    "hahabogus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "David Hare-Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:74x2c.90986$Wa.43803@news-
    server.bigpond.net.au:

    Quoted message said:

    I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    religious/cultural context, that is not the question.
    What I am curious about is the gastromonical effect of
    kosher salt.

    In what way is kosher salt different from (more or less)
    pure sodium chloride?

    Is the difference clearly noticable so that if a recipe
    specified kosher and you used standard cooking salt (or
    vice versa) that you would easily taste it?

    David

    All the salts (NaCl) used for cooking by man aren't pure.
    There are other trace minerals in them. This salt ain't
    made in a lab it is either mined


    or

    Quoted message said:

    made by evaporation methods. These trace minerals and any
    additives make for taste differences.

    Most if not all boxes of salt sold as "table salt" have
    iodine (sp??) in them, as well as a good chance of some
    sort of anti clumping agent (most likely Corn
    Starch/flour). The Iodine is to reduce gouter type
    problems.


    If

    Quoted message said:

    you eat seafood regularly you shouldn't need introduced
    iodine, but I'm


    not

    Quoted message said:

    a doctor.

    Kosher Salt has no additives. If you find Kosher Salt too
    expensive...buy course pickling salt...it too has no
    additives.

    Also kosher salt comes in a larger crystal/grain/flake
    than table salt. Which means that volume measurements for
    kosher salt (like a tsp or 1/4 cup) use less salt (by
    weight) than the smaller grain table salt, so


    kosher

    Quoted message said:

    salted recipes tend to be less salty in taste. Kinda like
    the pound of feathers versus the pound of iron thingie but
    not so obvious.

    Kosher salt is easier to add to items by hand (Spinkle on
    things). Easier to control amounts. Because you select by
    hand the amount you use, not guess how much is coming out
    of a shaker. The area above a hot pan/pot can be very
    humid and plug up your shaker's holes.

    There is a very minor taste difference (at least to me)
    between table


    salt,

    Quoted message said:

    kosher salt, sea salt and pickling salt. This might be a
    mental thing. But all salt (NaCl), used for cooking,
    basically comes from the sea...It is just some seas
    dried up thousands of years ago and others are still
    around today.

    Salt can also collect odors/tastes from the air. Example:
    Some of the


    humid

    Quoted message said:

    air that comes from a pot of boiling cabbage will be
    extracted by any salt near by...slightly changing the
    taste of your table salt over time/exposure.

    --
    Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on
    nothing but food and water.
    --------
    FIELDS, W. C.

  20. Darryl L. Pierce said:

    PENMART01 wrote:


    I mainly wanted to comment about the last paragraph in this
    post, but thought I would throw in all my comments to
    postings in this thread here.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I understand the concept of kosher food in the
    > religious/cultural context, that is not the question.
    > What I am curious about is the gastromonical effect of
    > kosher salt.
    >
    > In what way is kosher salt different from (more or
    > less) pure sodium chloride?

    A previous post mentioned that table salt tastes different.
    There are two reasons, one is probably the presence of
    iodine in their table salt. That does give a metallic
    background to the salt which some can taste more than
    others. The other factor is the size of the flakes. When
    used as a finisher (added just before serving and not fully
    disolved), the larger salt crystals give a definite 'bite'
    to the tongue.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It *is* pure sodium chloride. Table salt has iodine added
    as well as anti-clumping agents.

    Pickling salt doesn't contain anti-clumping agents and will
    dissolve without clouding in cool water. Kosher salt
    dissolves very slowly in cool/lukewarm water. It is this
    ability to absorb more liquid than other salts before
    dissolving that made it the preferred salt for koshering.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not all table salt has iodine added, vast majority
    doesn't.

    Do you mean in the US or across the globe? I've never seen
    table salt that didn't have iodine added, but then I only
    ever see Morton's and the store brand every place...

    Ah, you must live inland. I live within 50 miles of the
    ocean and almost all salt is non-iodized. There is some
    iodized salt available, but it is a small amount of
    shelf space.

    In my travels outside of the US, I don't recall ever seeing
    iodized salt. But, most places I have been have been near a
    sea coast.

    Lastly, another poster mentioned about how much extra kosher
    salt to add instead of table salt. By weight it is all the
    same. A gram of table salt has the same amount of NaCl as a
    gram of kosher salt. By volume, though, the amount varies by
    brand of kosher salt. 2 cups of Diamond is the same as 1 cup
    of table salt is the same as 1 1/2 cups of Morton.

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