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apusapus <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave Andersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>> > Dave, you're an idiot.
>
>> Please, oh babbling font of wisdom, tell me why I'm wrong.
>
> Oh, you thought I was talking about swimming? No, David, I was referring to your allegations of
> racism. Made in another thread, I know, but can't you draw the dots for yourself?
>
> I wrote a 9K answer based on my experiences in my country - Rhodesia - over the past four decades,
> which I then decided to spare you on two grounds. One, you wouldn't understand. Two, it wouldn't
> change a thing if you did. So I cut to the chase - which is:
>
> Dave, you're an idiot.

Fair enough. I'll confess that the issue isn't nearly as (agh) black and white as I appeared to
claim in my earlier post, but do note that I wasn't alleging the racism on your part -- I was
alleging it on the part of the poster you so seem to admire.

(So, perhaps I was claiming you're racist, if you and she are one in the same).

Is it racist to say, "There are clear socioeconimic differences in the rate of childbirthing?"
Heck no. It's true. Is it racist to say, "Ethnic group X has a higher birthrate in the US than
ethnic group Y?" I'm not that stupid. What I _said_, if you'll read my post a bit more carefully,
is that I believe Elizabeth is very deliberately making comments that (s)he knows damn well could
be interpreted as racist. I think that's stooping kind of low for a troll - there are more
challenging things to get people in a.s.c.f. fired up about, but in the US, at least, race is such
an easy button to push that it seems like a cop-out for a troll of obvious talent.

In reality, I think Elizabeth is concocting a nice mix of mostly truths to lead her readers to
come to unwarranted conclusions about the cause and effect of what she's describing. She's not
stating those conclusions herself, for which I give her credit, but she's definitely making the
implication.

But she does have a nice way of using the phrase "terminal rectocranial impaction."

-Dave

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Dave Andersen <[email protected]> wrote:
> apusapus <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Dave Andersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Go swimming. Nothing too hard.
>>
>> Dave, you're an idiot.
>
> Roger, I think that's the shortest post you've made in months. I'm proud.
>
> A nice swim workout gets your blood going and doesn't tire the same muscles you're going to run
> on. A nice light jog will have the same effect, but if you're not used to doing a lot of running,
> may not be as beneficial. I find that I get a similar effect from a light cycling workout the day
> after a hard run workout.
>
> Please, oh babbling font of wisdom, tell me why I'm wrong.

... and I know, I shouldn't rise to the bait, but:

http://www.poweringmuscles.com/musclerecovery.asp?article_number=14

"Rest is essential for recovery, but when done properly, combining active recovery workouts with
outright rest results in better recovery than you can achieve through rest alone."

More in the injury sense, but also applicable to general muscle soreness:

http://www.clarian.org/health/NIFS/recovery.jhtml

"Cross-Training. Don't wait until you are completely free of soreness to begin exercising. Low
impact exercise such as swimming, stair climbing, or an elliptical exercise machine will promote
blood flow and speed the healing process."

From the perspective of an older runner who's plateaued a bit:

http://www.sportsguidemag.com/archive/Jun03/TrainFit-recoverybased.as

"Mondays are swim/recovery from the weekend long, race temp bike/run workout. [...] Thursday is a
swim day and Friday is currently a total day off, but will also become a swim day the last month
when I begin to taper my running a bit. After the two easier days with no running or cycling, I'm
ready for the race simulation training on Saturday and give it a solid effort. "

http://www.trifuel.com/triathlon/run/000319.php

"Exercise in water is a very effective method of promoting recovery. The water pressure helps to
remove the waste products and extra fluids that often builds up in the legs after running. Swimming
is great too because it will use the arms and not further deplete the legs of energy stores plus you
don't have the pounding of the road on your joins and muscles."

I'm not suggesting that swimming will make him a better runner. But swimming _is_ a great method of
active recovery.

-Dave

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"Dave Andersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

> > Dave, you're an idiot.

> Please, oh babbling font of wisdom, tell me why I'm wrong.

Oh, you thought I was talking about swimming? No, David, I was referring to your allegations of
racism. Made in another thread, I know, but can't you draw the dots for yourself?

I wrote a 9K answer based on my experiences in my country - Rhodesia - over the past four decades,
which I then decided to spare you on two grounds. One, you wouldn't understand. Two, it wouldn't
change a thing if you did. So I cut to the chase - which is:

Dave, you're an idiot.

Roger.
 
Dave Andersen wrote:

> "terminal rectocranial impaction."

And a great sense of humor. By the way, was she using the phrase to describe Roger?

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"Dave Andersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

> In reality, I think Elizabeth is concocting a nice mix of mostly truths to lead her readers to
> come to unwarranted conclusions about the cause and effect of what she's describing.

Which is, I submit, the whole point of trolling.

Roger.
 
apusapus <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave Andersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>> In reality, I think Elizabeth is concocting a nice mix of mostly truths to lead her readers to
>> come to unwarranted conclusions about the cause and effect of what she's describing.
>
> Which is, I submit, the whole point of trolling.

When it comes to dishonesty and concoctions, I'll defer to the experts.

-Dave

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:36:16 -0600, Dave Andersen <[email protected]> wrote:

> When it comes to dishonesty and concoctions, I'll defer to the experts.

What do you need to know?
 
apusapus <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave Andersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>> > Dave, you're an idiot.
>
>> Please, oh babbling font of wisdom, tell me why I'm wrong.
>
> Oh, you thought I was talking about swimming? No, David, I was referring to your allegations of
> racism. Made in another thread, I know, but can't you draw the dots for yourself?
>
> I wrote a 9K answer based on my experiences in my country - Rhodesia - over the past four decades,
> which I then decided to spare you on two grounds. One, you wouldn't understand. Two, it wouldn't
> change a thing if you did. So I cut to the chase - which is:
>
> Dave, you're an idiot.

Fair enough. I'll confess that the issue isn't nearly as (agh) black and white as I appeared to
claim in my earlier post, but do note that I wasn't alleging the racism on your part -- I was
alleging it on the part of the poster you so seem to admire.

(So, perhaps I was claiming you're racist, if you and she are one in the same).

Is it racist to say, "There are clear socioeconimic differences in the rate of childbirthing?"
Heck no. It's true. Is it racist to say, "Ethnic group X has a higher birthrate in the US than
ethnic group Y?" I'm not that stupid. What I _said_, if you'll read my post a bit more carefully,
is that I believe Elizabeth is very deliberately making comments that (s)he knows damn well could
be interpreted as racist. I think that's stooping kind of low for a troll - there are more
challenging things to get people in a.s.c.f. fired up about, but in the US, at least, race is such
an easy button to push that it seems like a cop-out for a troll of obvious talent.

In reality, I think Elizabeth is concocting a nice mix of mostly truths to lead her readers to
come to unwarranted conclusions about the cause and effect of what she's describing. She's not
stating those conclusions herself, for which I give her credit, but she's definitely making the
implication.

But she does have a nice way of using the phrase "terminal rectocranial impaction."

-Dave

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Dave Andersen wrote:

> "terminal rectocranial impaction."

And a great sense of humor. By the way, was she using the phrase to describe Roger?

--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" [email protected]
 
"Dave Andersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

> In reality, I think Elizabeth is concocting a nice mix of mostly truths to lead her readers to
> come to unwarranted conclusions about the cause and effect of what she's describing.

Which is, I submit, the whole point of trolling.

Roger.
 
apusapus <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave Andersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>> In reality, I think Elizabeth is concocting a nice mix of mostly truths to lead her readers to
>> come to unwarranted conclusions about the cause and effect of what she's describing.
>
> Which is, I submit, the whole point of trolling.

When it comes to dishonesty and concoctions, I'll defer to the experts.

-Dave

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:36:16 -0600, Dave Andersen <[email protected]> wrote:

> When it comes to dishonesty and concoctions, I'll defer to the experts.

What do you need to know?
 
"apusapus" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Dave Andersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> > > Dave, you're an idiot.
>
> > Please, oh babbling font of wisdom, tell me why I'm wrong.
>
> Oh, you thought I was talking about swimming? No, David, I was referring to your allegations of
> racism. Made in another thread, I know, but can't you draw the dots for yourself?
>
> I wrote a 9K answer based on my experiences in my country - Rhodesia - over
Still trying to peddle that **** about Rhodesia. What a load of pommie ****.
 
[email protected] (Matthew Mazerowski) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> "apusapus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > "Dave Andersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > > Dave, you're an idiot.
>
> > > Please, oh babbling font of wisdom, tell me why I'm wrong.
> >
> > Oh, you thought I was talking about swimming? No, David, I was referring to your allegations of
> > racism. Made in another thread, I know, but can't you draw the dots for yourself?
> >
> > I wrote a 9K answer based on my experiences in my country - Rhodesia - over

Still trying to peddle that **** about Rhodesia. What a load of pommie ****.
 
> Which is, I submit, the whole point of trolling.
>
>
> Roger.

So when are you going to troll instead of just being trite and stupid?
 
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