Mandoline or Knife?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Wayne Boatwright said:

Katra, the brand you have may no longer be in production. I know of two that
are curently made, the first is King Cutter:

http://tinyurl.com/9vwza

Geez! $120.00???
I had no idea it was worth that much! ;-D

Quoted message said:

The second is Saladmaster

http://tinyurl.com/bdd7o

Hmmmmmm.... an MLM.
Interesting.

Quoted message said:

HTH

Thanks! :-)
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

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see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

Katra said:

I finally have a pic uploaded to webspace:

http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/RotaryGrater.jpg

I have to learn how to do that. I can upload pictures, but still
haven't figured out how to get to them or give them a url. I wish
comcast had lessons!

On Sun 12 Jun 2005 08:51:08a, Debbie wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Monsur Fromage du Pollet said:

Quoted message said:

Katra wrote on 12 Jun 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> So, what is it officially called now and do they make them
> anymore? >>>
>

http://www.healthcraft.com/ modernized version.

That looks more like a modern version of what I called a food mill. It
clamped to the table.. certainly wasn't as pretty as this one, or the
picture that Katra posted. However in the short video clip it had the
same action as mine. Mine was very old, and very heavy (If my memory
isn't playing tricks on me I am thinking it was made of cast iron). Not
made by Health Craft. Gave it away years ago when I knew I wouldn't be
doing the pickling, preserve things as much as I used to.

Debbie

You may be confusing the terms. A food mill, for the most part, is used to
puree foods and may have several disks to vary the coarseness of the puree.
It does not chop, slice, or grate.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

Wayne Boatwright said:

Quoted message said:

On Sun 12 Jun 2005 08:51:08a, Debbie wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Monsur Fromage du Pollet wrote:
>> Katra wrote on 12 Jun 2005 in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>> So, what is it officially called now and do they make them
>>> anymore? >>>
>>>
>>
>> http://www.healthcraft.com/ modernized version.

That looks more like a modern version of what I called a food mill.
It clamped to the table.. certainly wasn't as pretty as this one,
or the picture that Katra posted. However in the short video clip
it had the same action as mine. Mine was very old, and very heavy
(If my memory isn't playing tricks on me I am thinking it was made
of cast iron). Not made by Health Craft. Gave it away years ago
when I knew I wouldn't be doing the pickling, preserve things as
much as I used to.

Debbie

You may be confusing the terms. A food mill, for the most part, is
used to puree foods and may have several disks to vary the
coarseness of the puree. It does not chop, slice, or grate.

Certainly wouldn't be the first time. :-) This thing had been passed down
through the family and I just called it what everyone else did.

Debbie

"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

Katra, the brand you have may no longer be in production. I know of two
that are curently made, the first is King Cutter:

http://tinyurl.com/9vwza

We had one of these in one of the restaurants I bought back a couple
decades ago. It had been a mama-papa operation with everything made from
scratch, and usually by hand. We mechanized these processes to suit our
increased business with essentially the same thing mounted on our Hobart
mixers, but still did everything from scratch.

The units are heavy-duty, tough and durable.

Quoted message said:

The second is Saladmaster

http://tinyurl.com/bdd7o

This is more designed for home use and not as substantially built. For
lighter-duty use.

Pastorio

They're also known as drum graters...

Katra said:

I have a 40 cubic ft. Hobart refrigerator and it's been costly to repair
the thing from time to time as it IS old, but I'd rather not do without
it!

Pastorio,

I have the thermostat set right at 40 and it holds a monitored temp. of
39 to 42 degrees. Should I turn it down? The sun porch now has a window
unit air conditioner so it stays cooler back there, but I'm leery of
straining that compressor as it'd cost me $1,500 to replace it. The
refrigerator is about 25 years old.

It's a small commercial unit that should last a good while. But it
wouldn't be worth replacing the compressor. You should be able to pick
up comparable restaurant coolers at auction for a whole lot less than
that. I bought a 50 cube for $35 a few years ago. At that same auction,
there was a 70 cube service cooler (tall bad wide, 6 glass doors on each
side to pass things through) that sold for $75.

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40 degrees seems to really [censored] food spoilage except for some of the
softer veggies. But then, I really should eat them before they are a
week old anyway. <lol> I just have to get dad to stop buying more fresh
produce than the two of us can eat!

That's really the point. No matter what temperature you're working at,
things need to be used in their own good time. 40°F is a good compromise
storage temperature. Some things are better colder, others warmer.

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Ginger root keeps for 2 months in a wicker basket in there, and oranges
for the cockatoo last for about 3 months. I usually get those in a mesh
bag and I replace her citrus fruit about every 3 days.

And, speaking of rotary slicers:

Quoted message said:

I was amazed to see what the one I have is worth! :-)

There might be a difference between cost and worth.

Pastorio

On Sun 12 Jun 2005 09:22:33a, Debbie wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

Quoted message said:

On Sun 12 Jun 2005 08:51:08a, Debbie wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Monsur Fromage du Pollet wrote:
>>> Katra wrote on 12 Jun 2005 in rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>> So, what is it officially called now and do they make them
>>>> anymore? >>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.healthcraft.com/ modernized version.
>
> That looks more like a modern version of what I called a food mill.
> It clamped to the table.. certainly wasn't as pretty as this one, or
> the picture that Katra posted. However in the short video clip
> it had the same action as mine. Mine was very old, and very heavy
> (If my memory isn't playing tricks on me I am thinking it was made
> of cast iron). Not made by Health Craft. Gave it away years ago
> when I knew I wouldn't be doing the pickling, preserve things as
> much as I used to.
>
> Debbie

You may be confusing the terms. A food mill, for the most part, is
used to puree foods and may have several disks to vary the coarseness
of the puree. It does not chop, slice, or grate.

Certainly wouldn't be the first time. :-) This thing had been passed
down through the family and I just called it what everyone else did.

Debbie

Most of us do that. <g>

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

In article <[email hidden]>,

sf said:

Katra said:

I finally have a pic uploaded to webspace:

http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/RotaryGrater.jpg

I have to learn how to do that. I can upload pictures, but still
haven't figured out how to get to them or give them a url. I wish
comcast had lessons!

Hmmmm... What program are you using?
You cannot access your webspace once you upload to it?

I use "Fetch" to upload to my century webspace, then go to my index site
in my Centurytel account.

I click on the item in the index that I want which brings up the
picture, then I just copy that address and paste it into the text when I
post a message.

The internet assigns them the URL, not you. :-)

Hope that helps???

Cheers!
Kat
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell--you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

In article <[email hidden]>,

Debbie said:

Monsur Fromage du Pollet said:

Quoted message said:

Katra wrote on 12 Jun 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> So, what is it officially called now and do they make them
> anymore? >>>
>

http://www.healthcraft.com/ modernized version.

That looks more like a modern version of what I called a food mill. It
clamped to the table.. certainly wasn't as pretty as this one, or the
picture that Katra posted. However in the short video clip it had the same
action as mine. Mine was very old, and very heavy (If my memory isn't
playing tricks on me I am thinking it was made of cast iron). Not made by
Health Craft. Gave it away years ago when I knew I wouldn't be doing the
pickling, preserve things as much as I used to.

Debbie

I'll use it to slice veggies for stir fry if I want them fine and not
chunky. I'll use it mostly for carrots as they need to be thinner to
cook faster. I leave the softer veggies (and the meat) in larger chunks.

It's also handy for shredding for salads.
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell‹you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob (this one) said:

Katra said:

I have a 40 cubic ft. Hobart refrigerator and it's been costly to repair
the thing from time to time as it IS old, but I'd rather not do without
it!

Pastorio,

I have the thermostat set right at 40 and it holds a monitored temp. of
39 to 42 degrees. Should I turn it down? The sun porch now has a window
unit air conditioner so it stays cooler back there, but I'm leery of
straining that compressor as it'd cost me $1,500 to replace it. The
refrigerator is about 25 years old.

It's a small commercial unit that should last a good while. But it
wouldn't be worth replacing the compressor. You should be able to pick
up comparable restaurant coolers at auction for a whole lot less than
that. I bought a 50 cube for $35 a few years ago. At that same auction,
there was a 70 cube service cooler (tall bad wide, 6 glass doors on each
side to pass things through) that sold for $75.

Oh my! The cheapest I've seen a used one around here for was $600.00.
Part of the issue of course tho' is moving one of those damned things.
<lol> They only weigh, what, a good 500 lbs.? I have this unit on
furniture coasters, making it easy to clean under and behind.

I'll keep that in mind! I got mine for free, but where are these
auctions???

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

40 degrees seems to really [censored] food spoilage except for some of the
softer veggies. But then, I really should eat them before they are a
week old anyway. <lol> I just have to get dad to stop buying more fresh
produce than the two of us can eat!

That's really the point. No matter what temperature you're working at,
things need to be used in their own good time. 40°F is a good compromise
storage temperature. Some things are better colder, others warmer.

I see.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Ginger root keeps for 2 months in a wicker basket in there, and oranges
for the cockatoo last for about 3 months. I usually get those in a mesh
bag and I replace her citrus fruit about every 3 days.

And, speaking of rotary slicers:

Quoted message said:

I was amazed to see what the one I have is worth! :-)

There might be a difference between cost and worth.

Ok, I consider mine priceless as a time saver... <G>

Cheers and thanks for answering!

Quoted message said:

Pastorio

--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell‹you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

Katra said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's a small commercial unit that should last a good while. But it
wouldn't be worth replacing the compressor. You should be able to pick
up comparable restaurant coolers at auction for a whole lot less than
that. I bought a 50 cube for $35 a few years ago. At that same auction,
there was a 70 cube service cooler (tall bad wide, 6 glass doors on each
side to pass things through) that sold for $75.

Oh my! The cheapest I've seen a used one around here for was $600.00.
Part of the issue of course tho' is moving one of those damned things.
<lol> They only weigh, what, a good 500 lbs.? I have this unit on
furniture coasters, making it easy to clean under and behind.

I'll keep that in mind! I got mine for free, but where are these
auctions???

Restaurants, grocery stores, convenience stores, etc. going out of
business. Lot more common than you'd think.

Pastorio

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Katra said:

I looked and looked and could NOT find a picture of my rotary
grater/slicer... but I like it better for speed cutting or course
grating (or fine grating since it has 6 different barrels) pretty much
any veggie!

Here's another:

http://tinyurl.com/cty3n

Amazon also carries these. Yes, seems pretty pricey to me, too.

Katra said:

Thank you for looking! You just made my day! :-)

No problem. I admire artistic talent partly because I have none at
all. You could give me all the tools in the world, and I couldn't
draw a straight black line with an on-screen ruler.

--
The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
At least now I have an excuse.

"Katra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:KatraMungBean->> We had one of these in one of the

Quoted message said:

I have the thermostat set right at 40

<snip to>

Quoted message said:

and oranges
for the cockatoo last for about 3 months

Now this could start and end a thread on What I Keep In My Refrigerator!

Felice

In article <[email hidden]>,

(AlleyGator) said:

Katra said:

Thank you for looking! You just made my day! :-)

No problem. I admire artistic talent partly because I have none at
all. You could give me all the tools in the world, and I couldn't
draw a straight black line with an on-screen ruler.

Mmm...
I think you'd be amazed.
While I could "doodle" with a pencil, I could never really create
anything I'd classify as "art". :-) I really cannot draw.

If you fool around with photoshop filters long enough, they generate
ideas and you can just go from there.

The computer makes it possible for me to indulge "latent" talents if you
will.

You should give it a try! I'm betting you will amaze yourself. Niether
me nor just about any other graphic artist I know (especially the ones
that like to do "psychedelic art"😉 has any idea what they will end up
with when they start!

If you have any photoediting software (photoshop really is cool!), you
can just play around with it and see what happens!

Or go download "Apophysis" flame fractal generator if you have a PC!
I can't use it as it is not compatible with Macintosh. You can create
things like this with Apophysis. I really LOVE this artists creations!

http://www.arcanefractals.com/sitemap.shtml

Flip thru the galleries. :-)
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell‹you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob (this one) said:

Katra said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's a small commercial unit that should last a good while. But it
wouldn't be worth replacing the compressor. You should be able to pick
up comparable restaurant coolers at auction for a whole lot less than
that. I bought a 50 cube for $35 a few years ago. At that same auction,
there was a 70 cube service cooler (tall bad wide, 6 glass doors on each
side to pass things through) that sold for $75.

Oh my! The cheapest I've seen a used one around here for was $600.00.
Part of the issue of course tho' is moving one of those damned things.
<lol> They only weigh, what, a good 500 lbs.? I have this unit on
furniture coasters, making it easy to clean under and behind.

I'll keep that in mind! I got mine for free, but where are these
auctions???

Restaurants, grocery stores, convenience stores, etc. going out of
business. Lot more common than you'd think.

Pastorio

Mmmm... Like the 60 lbs. of boxed frozen shrimp I got for 60% off from
Kroger when it was closing down. ;-) Not an auction, just a really good
deal! I have a real passion for shrimp!

I'm betting I can google for it.

Thanks for making me aware of them!

I got my Hobart from our laboratory when they were upgrading.
Needless to say, I sprayed it inside and out (carefully!) with a 10%
bleach solution prior to "moving into it". <lol>
I'd lusted after that 'frige for years and never thought I'd own it.

Double glass front doors, the whole nine yards.

Sweet!
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell‹you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

In article <[email hidden]>,

Frogleg said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Katra <[email hidden]> wrote:

> I looked and looked and could NOT find a picture of my rotary
> grater/slicer... but I like it better for speed cutting or course
> grating (or fine grating since it has 6 different barrels) pretty much
> any veggie!

Here's another:

http://tinyurl.com/cty3n

Amazon also carries these. Yes, seems pretty pricey to me, too.

Indeed... but once you have used one, they really are nice!
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell--you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

Melba's Jammin said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Katra said:

Most "rotary graters" turned up little bitty cheap assed hand tools made
with a plastic barrel that did not clamp to the counter.

I finally have a pic uploaded to webspace:

http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/RotaryGrater.jpg

Quoted message said:

So, what is it officially called now and do they make them anymore?

Quoted message said:

Looks like the Kitchen-Aid Food Processor attachment for a KA mixer. I
used to have it. Now they call it a slicer shredder. The second link
shows how it attaches to the front of a KA stand mixer.
http://store.yahoo.com/buyitnow64/kiaidroslsha.html
http://www.goldaskitchen.com/merchant.ihtml?id=123&pid=4958&step=4

200 bucks !?!

i'll never be a professional cook

just a humble little amatuer

gman said:

Melba's Jammin said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Katra said:

Most "rotary graters" turned up little bitty cheap assed hand tools made
with a plastic barrel that did not clamp to the counter.

I finally have a pic uploaded to webspace:

http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/RotaryGrater.jpg

Quoted message said:

So, what is it officially called now and do they make them anymore?

Quoted message said:

Looks like the Kitchen-Aid Food Processor attachment for a KA mixer. I
used to have it. Now they call it a slicer shredder. The second link
shows how it attaches to the front of a KA stand mixer.
http://store.yahoo.com/buyitnow64/kiaidroslsha.html
http://www.goldaskitchen.com/merchant.ihtml?id=123&pid=4958&step=4

200 bucks !?!

i'll never be a professional cook

just a humble little amatuer

<LOL> If that dazzles you, you ought to wander through a professional
supplies catalog. All of a sudden you begin acquire a clearer picture of
why restaurants have to charge what they do.

Pastorio

Katra said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sheldon said:

gman said:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:01:07 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>In article <[email hidden]>,
>Katra <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>
>>I looked and looked and could NOT find a picture of my rotary
>>grater/slicer... but I like it better for speed cutting or course
>>grating (or fine grating since it has 6 different barrels) pretty much
>>any veggie!
>
>(snip)
>
>>Anyone know what this device might be called? I googled for "rotary
>>slicer" and "rotary grater" but gave up after about 4 pages of each. :-P
>
>Sounds like a Mouli grater. Did you put that (Mouli) into the search?

Sounds like a food mill, though never actually used one, just saw it
online.

Two very different tools. Food mills don't grate, they process food by
pressing it through various sized holes... graters process food by
teasing/shredding/tearing/abrading.... rotary graters employ variously
configured barrels from course to fine and some slice at various
thicknesses. Mouli is the name of a company, they make food mills and
other kitchen gadgetry, they make a rotary grater too. There are tons
of hits for <rotary grater>, from many manufacturers, OXO seems to be
popular, even found pictures of a Mouli rotary grater... someone
doesn't know how to search, or didn't really.

Sheldon

I did a lot of searching Sheldong sweetie... ;-)

And I did not find anything REMOTELY like this!

Most "rotary graters" turned up little bitty cheap assed hand tools made
with a plastic barrel that did not clamp to the counter.

I finally have a pic uploaded to webspace:

http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/RotaryGrater.jpg

It ain't no Mouli grater! Mouli graters don't clamp to the counter and
are way too tiny to do any real work. I can do whole carrots, onions,
spuds, cabbage quarters, etc. in this thing. A lousy Mouli is only good
for cheese as far as I can tell!

It almost looks like a food mill but I think it is an old fashioned
grater, perhaps initially made for commercial use. I say food mill
because my food mill attaches to the counter, has various attachments,
and the food is put into a large bowl at the top similar to what your
grater has.

Quoted message said:

So, what is it officially called now and do they make them anymore?
This tool is very old and I love the thing! I generally leave it out as
it's a huge time saver in the mornings when I do most of my cooking
before I go to work for swing shifts. About the only thing it won't
slice is meat and any fresh herbs still have to be minced by hand. So
does garlic and fresh ginger root...

Thinking about switching to night shifts. ;-)

Maybe.