MASI bikes

Travis said:

The LBS has just started carrying MASI bikes and has them on special.
They claimed a particular model was "equivalent to" a Trek 1400 as it
had the same crank and gears. I asked about weight and he said they
were about the same, he didn't know about flex and handling etc. The
price however was a lot less than the 1400.

Does anyone know anything about MASI?

masibikes.comhistory.phpOpen ↗

which LBS?

SteveA

Travis said:

The LBS has just started carrying MASI bikes and has them on special.
They claimed a particular model was "equivalent to" a Trek 1400 as it
had the same crank and gears. I asked about weight and he said they
were about the same, he didn't know about flex and handling etc. The
price however was a lot less than the 1400.

Did you testride both so you could make a comparison of your own?

And what's the warranty like?

Bleve said:

Travis said:

The LBS has just started carrying MASI bikes and has them on special.
They claimed a particular model was "equivalent to" a Trek 1400 as it
had the same crank and gears. I asked about weight and he said they
were about the same, he didn't know about flex and handling etc. The
price however was a lot less than the 1400.

Did you testride both so you could make a comparison of your own?

No I didn't. One of the problems being that I need a 60/62cm frame
(189cm/6'3" tall) and the shops would have to order one in specially.
As I'm not necessarily immediately going to buy, I'd feel a bit bad
about doing that to the LBS.

Quoted message said:

And what's the warranty like?

Lifetime on the frame, 2y on everything else. Pretty standard.

Its a typical mid-priced bike, aluminium frame and carbon forks,
Shimano 105 10sp crank and gears. The MASI was on special though as a
new brand they wanted to promote, it cost about $700 less than the Trek
1400 which was supposedly "equivalent".

The LBS by the way was a Bike Force. In WA at least Bike force are the
exclusive distributors of Trek, and now they do MASI as well.

Another bike I looked at today which I really liked the look of (partly
the lines, and partly because it was a bright yellow colour that I
really liked) was a Merida Road 904-20. (This was in another shop, not
a bike force). It also was very competitively priced and cost a lot
less than the "equivalent" Trek.

Any opinions on Merida?

Travis said:

Bleve said:

Travis said:

The LBS has just started carrying MASI bikes and has them on special.
They claimed a particular model was "equivalent to" a Trek 1400 as it
had the same crank and gears. I asked about weight and he said they
were about the same, he didn't know about flex and handling etc. The
price however was a lot less than the 1400.

Did you testride both so you could make a comparison of your own?

No I didn't. One of the problems being that I need a 60/62cm frame
(189cm/6'3" tall) and the shops would have to order one in specially.
As I'm not necessarily immediately going to buy, I'd feel a bit bad
about doing that to the LBS.

That's understandable, but still, I'd strongly suggest that you never
buy a roady (or any expensive bike) without a testride. If the LBS is
going to carry these bikes, then they should be prepared to take the
risk on them. That's why you pay the LBS a premium on what you could
get the same bike from online, for example. As long as you're upfront
about it with the shop then they should be ok with it. In WA you may be
a little limited with your shopping around choices, but still, it's
their problem, not yours.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And what's the warranty like?

Lifetime on the frame, 2y on everything else. Pretty standard.

For everything except an Italian frame 🙂

Quoted message said:

Its a typical mid-priced bike, aluminium frame and carbon forks,
Shimano 105 10sp crank and gears. The MASI was on special though as a
new brand they wanted to promote, it cost about $700 less than the Trek
1400 which was supposedly "equivalent".

So it's about $1300? That means the frame amd fork is almost free.
Ie:it's very cheaply made.
That's not necesarily a problem, but you should be aware of it.
They're probably carrying this brand to catch the "I want a
105/Ultegra/D-A bike and don't care about the frame" buyers. There's a
lot of them around. IMO, that's completely the wrong way to buy a
bike, but a lot of people buy on groupset. Giant are particularly good
at this end of the market at the moment (anyone remember Shogun? 🙂 ),
but stocking Giant sucks as a LBS, because everyone just buys them on
price and there's always an LBS somewhere trying to dump them, so
flogging them off cheap. We're doing the cheap but good groupset thing
by carrying Inexa bikes. We were doing Raceline (apollo), but they got
too expensive for their quality level, as much as a Trek, but no Trek
..... Like Giant, the low end Inexa's are pretty awful (vague handling,
odd behaviour on descents etc), but the top end ones are ok, and
they're cheap. The MASI's are probably the same sort of deal.

What wheels does it have? What other corners have they cut?

Quoted message said:

The LBS by the way was a Bike Force. In WA at least Bike force are the
exclusive distributors of Trek, and now they do MASI as well.

Another bike I looked at today which I really liked the look of (partly
the lines, and partly because it was a bright yellow colour that I
really liked) was a Merida Road 904-20. (This was in another shop, not
a bike force). It also was very competitively priced and cost a lot
less than the "equivalent" Trek.

Any opinions on Merida?

They've been around for a few years (remember a lifetime warranty isn't
much use if the company no longer exists!), but I've never ridden one.
What does your backside say about it? Testride ... testride ...

Bleve said:

That's understandable, but still, I'd strongly suggest that you never
buy a roady (or any expensive bike) without a testride. If the LBS is
going to carry these bikes, then they should be prepared to take the
risk on them. That's why you pay the LBS a premium on what you could
get the same bike from online, for example. As long as you're upfront
about it with the shop then they should be ok with it. In WA you may be
a little limited with your shopping around choices, but still, it's
their problem, not yours.

What Perth bike shops have the best range of road bikes?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Its a typical mid-priced bike, aluminium frame and carbon forks,
Shimano 105 10sp crank and gears. The MASI was on special though as a
new brand they wanted to promote, it cost about $700 less than the Trek
1400 which was supposedly "equivalent".

So it's about $1300? That means the frame amd fork is almost free.

$1,399 actually.

Its this model: http://www.masibikes.com/cycles/nuova_strada.php

Quoted message said:

Ie:it's very cheaply made.

Is that a given, even if we're comparing an undiscounted Trek at full
RRP against a new brand which supposedly is being sold at a very
advantageous price as an introductory special?

Unless its some tightly guarded secret, what sort of markup is there
between wholesale and RRP on bikes like this?

Quoted message said:

That's not necesarily a problem, but you should be aware of it.
They're probably carrying this brand to catch the "I want a
105/Ultegra/D-A bike and don't care about the frame" buyers. There's a
lot of them around. IMO, that's completely the wrong way to buy a
bike, but a lot of people buy on groupset. Giant are particularly good
at this end of the market at the moment (anyone remember Shogun? 🙂 ),
but stocking Giant sucks as a LBS, because everyone just buys them on
price and there's always an LBS somewhere trying to dump them, so
flogging them off cheap. We're doing the cheap but good groupset thing
by carrying Inexa bikes. We were doing Raceline (apollo), but they got
too expensive for their quality level, as much as a Trek, but no Trek
.... Like Giant, the low end Inexa's are pretty awful (vague handling,
odd behaviour on descents etc), but the top end ones are ok, and
they're cheap. The MASI's are probably the same sort of deal.

Which Giants are worth getting?

Quoted message said:

What wheels does it have? What other corners have they cut?

According to the MASI site...

Hubset / Wheelset Alex DA22 Aero 32h Rims; Formula 32h cassette hubs
w/ alloy QR; stainless spokes radial front/ X3 rear

Tires Vittoria Zaffiro 23c wire bead

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The LBS by the way was a Bike Force. In WA at least Bike force are the
exclusive distributors of Trek, and now they do MASI as well.

Another bike I looked at today which I really liked the look of (partly
the lines, and partly because it was a bright yellow colour that I
really liked) was a Merida Road 904-20. (This was in another shop, not
a bike force). It also was very competitively priced and cost a lot
less than the "equivalent" Trek.

Any opinions on Merida?

They've been around for a few years (remember a lifetime warranty isn't
much use if the company no longer exists!), but I've never ridden one.
What does your backside say about it? Testride ... testride ...

And this is the Merida model:
http://www.merida.com/s0_global/main_control.php?group0=bikes&group1=roadrace&bikeId=63

Masi were a top Italian-made brand who sold out to the bmx company Haro.
Malvern Star star were talking about importing them a couple of years ago
so they must have arrived . If the price is right & the bike fits go for it.
Merida been around since the 70's second biggest quality manufacturer after
Giant . Own a fair chunk of the 2nd biggest US bike brand.
Giant market leader need no introduction.
Shogun are still around made by Merida , we do have a size XL Ninja with a
full 10 speed 105 groupset here on the floor in WA plus all the other
sizes.
Trek will always sell to the Lance wanabees for the extra dosh.
Steve
Ideal

If it is the model you linked to there is not much 105 on it , more of a
Tiagra bike ...if you are more into the comfort racer look at the Giant OCR2
or pay 300 bucks more for a more aggressive full 105 10speed equipped bike
like the Ninja .
Steve
Ideal

Steve said:

Shogun are still around made by Merida , we do have a size XL Ninja with a
full 10 speed 105 groupset here on the floor in WA plus all the other
sizes.

I'd like to come in for a look at this. I'm sure everyone will forgive
the crass commercialism of you answering this question (just this
once), but where are you?

Steve said:

If it is the model you linked to there is not much 105 on it , more of a
Tiagra bike ...if you are more into the comfort racer look at the Giant OCR2
or pay 300 bucks more for a more aggressive full 105 10speed equipped bike
like the Ninja .

Is this just a matter of looks?

I'm after a good commuting bike, something for going to work on and
having nice fast rides on some of the interesting bike paths near me.
(I live in Thornlie, Gosnells has some interesting bike paths which are
quite hilly and curvey. I want to go through some of these curves at
speed and the paths can occasionally be a bit iffy with detritus and
sand, therefore I want a bike with reasonably good handling for
obstacle avoidance...)

As a (as I understand it) bike shop guy, what $2K or less bikes would
you recommend?

Steve said:

If it is the model you linked to there is not much 105 on it , more of a
Tiagra bike ...if you are more into the comfort racer look at the Giant OCR2
or pay 300 bucks more for a more aggressive full 105 10speed equipped bike
like the Ninja .

Is this just a matter of looks?

I'm after a good commuting bike, something for going to work on and
having nice fast rides on some of the interesting bike paths near me.
(I live in Thornlie, Gosnells has some interesting bike paths which are
quite hilly and curvey. I want to go through some of these curves at
speed and the paths can occasionally be a bit iffy with detritus and
sand, therefore I want a bike with reasonably good handling for
obstacle avoidance...)

As a (as I understand it) bike shop guy, what $2K or less bikes would
you recommend?

93377670
370 South St O'Connor
halfway 'tween Murdoch & Freo.

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Quoted message said:

Steve said:

Shogun are still around made by Merida , we do have a size XL Ninja with
a
full 10 speed 105 groupset here on the floor in WA plus all the other
sizes.

I'd like to come in for a look at this. I'm sure everyone will forgive
the crass commercialism of you answering this question (just this
once), but where are you?

Bleve said:

They've been around for a few years (remember a lifetime warranty isn't
much use if the company no longer exists!), but I've never ridden one.
What does your backside say about it? Testride ... testride ...

Part of my problem with a testride, apart from the fact that nobody has
bikes in my size, is that I'm used to riding a cheap bike, a Repco
Superlight. Which for the record is made entirely out of depleted
uranium (including the tires) and as a consequence weighs a bit more
than any of the bikes I'm now looking at. Anything I ride will feel
terrific, hence I wouldn't know how to appreciate the difference
between a good bike and a great bike, especially not if I'm just going
to take it for a lap around the carpark where I won't really be able to
test out the handling (not that I'd know good handling) and high speed
stability and climbing and all the other stuff.

Hence I'm after opinions, either from aus.bicycle readers or from
internet reviews I could be pointed to, about whether the bike is any
good or not. In time, I'll get used to the handling of this bike and
might upgrade to an even better one in a few years.

Travis said:

Bleve said:

They've been around for a few years (remember a lifetime warranty isn't
much use if the company no longer exists!), but I've never ridden one.
What does your backside say about it? Testride ... testride ...

Part of my problem with a testride, apart from the fact that nobody has
bikes in my size, is that I'm used to riding a cheap bike, a Repco
Superlight. Which for the record is made entirely out of depleted
uranium (including the tires) and as a consequence weighs a bit more
than any of the bikes I'm now looking at. Anything I ride will feel
terrific, hence I wouldn't know how to appreciate the difference
between a good bike and a great bike, especially not if I'm just going
to take it for a lap around the carpark where I won't really be able to
test out the handling (not that I'd know good handling) and high speed
stability and climbing and all the other stuff.

You'll be suprised at what you can tell about a bike from a 15 minute
testride, even with an [censored] used to sitting on a bench seat 🙂 And if
you *can't* tell the difference, then get the cheaper one, or the one
with the nicest colours or something else that sways your fancy. But
.... TESTRIDE the damn things! If the LBS won't let you take it for a
good 15 minute or so testride, walk out of the shop and don't go back,
they're not letting you decide what you like.

You'll hopefulyl notice that I keep suggesting you testride bikes,
rather than take anyone's (*especially* people who work in bike shops!)
word on it. That includes me (I work in a bike shop too 🙂 ). I have
the advantage of 3,000km of separation and thus you can be reasomably
secure in my not trying to sell you something, but even with that in
mind, take everything I write *exccpt* the bit about testrides, with a
large grain of salt.

Travis said:

Bleve said:

That's understandable, but still, I'd strongly suggest that you never
buy a roady (or any expensive bike) without a testride. If the LBS is
going to carry these bikes, then they should be prepared to take the
risk on them. That's why you pay the LBS a premium on what you could
get the same bike from online, for example. As long as you're upfront
about it with the shop then they should be ok with it. In WA you may be
a little limited with your shopping around choices, but still, it's
their problem, not yours.

What Perth bike shops have the best range of road bikes?

I dunno Travis, I'm in Melbourne 🙂

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Quoted message said:

Its a typical mid-priced bike, aluminium frame and carbon forks,
Shimano 105 10sp crank and gears. The MASI was on special though as a
new brand they wanted to promote, it cost about $700 less than the Trek
1400 which was supposedly "equivalent".

So it's about $1300? That means the frame amd fork is almost free.

$1,399 actually.

Its this model: http://www.masibikes.com/cycles/nuova_strada.php

Quoted message said:

Ie:it's very cheaply made.

Is that a given, even if we're comparing an undiscounted Trek at full
RRP against a new brand which supposedly is being sold at a very
advantageous price as an introductory special?

The groupset, if it's full 105 (and it probably isn't, it probably has
a 105 rear mech and the rest is other stuff) is quite expensive, even
to manufacturers, and so are wheels and other bits & pieces. For a
bike to retail at $1400, and the LBS to make a couple of hundred out of
it (at least, or it's not worth having in the shop), you can do the
sums. The frame will have cost almost nothing to make, which means it's
churned out of some huge factory in Taiwan or China (not that there's a
problem with that) in a hurry.

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Unless its some tightly guarded secret, what sort of markup is there
between wholesale and RRP on bikes like this?

Depends on the LBS, but usually at least 3-4 hundred unless the shop is
trying to dump stuff in a hurry. The markup tends to be bigger on more
expensive bikes for obvious reasons. Oddly, there is a very *small*
markup on high end helmets, a lot less than you'd think anyway. LBS's
get a pretty steep price from Shimano for stuff too, but the markup on
stuff like tyres, tubes etc is pretty steep, but yuo have to sell a
-lot- of tyres to pay the rent on the shop.

Here's a tip on negociating a deal with an LBS. They're usually
reluctant to move much on the price of a bike itself (maybe 10%
discount off RRP in most cases) but will usually , if pushed, throw in
a lot of other stuff with it. By pushing, I mean being indecisive, not
being a pain in the [censored]! Eg: free seatbags, bottle cages etc, big
discounts on entry-level helmets and so on. That's because the bits
are pretty cheap, and the markup big, so giving you a $55 helmet (RRP)
only costs the shop maybe $20 and gives you a better feeling of having
gotten a good/special deal, wheras if they lop $50 off the bike price,
it costs them $50 and you won't remember that in a month.

"think like a bike shop, grasshopper" 🙂

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That's not necesarily a problem, but you should be aware of it.
They're probably carrying this brand to catch the "I want a
105/Ultegra/D-A bike and don't care about the frame" buyers. There's a
lot of them around. IMO, that's completely the wrong way to buy a
bike, but a lot of people buy on groupset. Giant are particularly good
at this end of the market at the moment (anyone remember Shogun? 🙂 ),
but stocking Giant sucks as a LBS, because everyone just buys them on
price and there's always an LBS somewhere trying to dump them, so
flogging them off cheap. We're doing the cheap but good groupset thing
by carrying Inexa bikes. We were doing Raceline (apollo), but they got
too expensive for their quality level, as much as a Trek, but no Trek
.... Like Giant, the low end Inexa's are pretty awful (vague handling,
odd behaviour on descents etc), but the top end ones are ok, and
they're cheap. The MASI's are probably the same sort of deal.

Which Giants are worth getting?

My opinion? None of 'em. But, lots of people here are quite happy with
theirs (including some people I coach, so I have to be careful 🙂 ) The
high end Giants are very good bikes, but for the same money you can get
a superb bike.Actually, that's not strictly speaking true, the entry
level Giants are, for the price, bloody good bikes. But, they *are*
cheap and a lot of compromises get made to make a bike that cheap.

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What wheels does it have? What other corners have they cut?

According to the MASI site...

Hubset / Wheelset Alex DA22 Aero 32h Rims; Formula 32h cassette hubs
w/ alloy QR; stainless spokes radial front/ X3 rear

Ok, they're reasonable wheels, nothing fancy, but not Shimano R500's or
anything really awful!

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Tires Vittoria Zaffiro 23c wire bead

They're ok.

I'd not base any bike purchasing decision on the tyres or seat that it
ships with, both are trivially easy to replace and both will wear out
(the tyres in particular) reasonably soon.

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The LBS by the way was a Bike Force. In WA at least Bike force are the
exclusive distributors of Trek, and now they do MASI as well.

Another bike I looked at today which I really liked the look of (partly
the lines, and partly because it was a bright yellow colour that I
really liked) was a Merida Road 904-20. (This was in another shop, not
a bike force). It also was very competitively priced and cost a lot
less than the "equivalent" Trek.

Any opinions on Merida?

They've been around for a few years (remember a lifetime warranty isn't
much use if the company no longer exists!), but I've never ridden one.
What does your backside say about it? Testride ... testride ...

And this is the Merida model:
http://www.merida.com/s0_global/main_control.php?group0=bikes&group1=roadrace&bikeId=63

Testride it ...

And tootle on down to Ideal and testride their stuff too. Testride,
testride, testride ...
Even take a Shogun for a testride, and if you can, a Huffy, if K-mart
will let you 🙂 (I'm only half serious here 🙂 ) Sounds like Ideal
don't like Trek much (Steve's reference to lance wannabes duly noted).
Don't take their word for it, test ride one and see if you can tell the
difference. You're looking to spend serious money (>$1000) so you owe
it to yourself to find out for yourself what feels good under your bum.

In aus.bicycle on 28 Feb 2006 13:21:35 -0800

Bleve said:

You'll hopefulyl notice that I keep suggesting you testride bikes,
rather than take anyone's (*especially* people who work in bike shops!)
word on it. That includes me (I work in a bike shop too 🙂 ). I have

Size is a [censored] though.

It is probably easier for someone to tell the difference between two
too-small bikes than two too-large ones.

When I went hunting uprights I found most of the ones on offer were
too big. Meaning too difficult.

Had the same problem with bents, but on a bent you can't reach the
pedals if it's too big...

Zebee

Just a couple of things on the issue, and this is strictly my opinion, so take it as you may.

My mate bought a Masi from Bike Force, South Perth a couple of months ago and is happy with it, but he reckons it is no where near as good as his old bike which was a Klein Quantum. He was dazzled by getting Durace over his old Ultegra, though now would have bought a Durace groupset and put it on his old frame. I assume you want your frame to last longer than your groupset so ignore the groupset.

Also, at around 190cm, i would recommend that if the masi is alloy, maybe have a good long think about it. From my experience (7 alloy frames and 195cm) Top end alloy stuff, no worries, mid range, framesnaptown.

byron27 said:

Just a couple of things on the issue, and this is strictly my opinion,
so take it as you may.

My mate bought a Masi from Bike Force, South Perth a couple of months
ago and is happy with it, but he reckons it is no where near as good as
his old bike which was a Klein Quantum. He was dazzled by getting Durace
over his old Ultegra, though now would have bought a Durace groupset and
put it on his old frame. I assume you want your frame to last longer
than your groupset so ignore the groupset.

Also, at around 190cm, i would recommend that if the masi is alloy,
maybe have a good long think about it. From my experience (7 alloy
frames and 195cm) Top end alloy stuff, no worries, mid range,
framesnaptown.

Thanks for that advice, I guess this is one area where I would want to
be cautious about buying a bike without a lifetime warranty.

Another bike which I've had suggested to me by a LBS was the Avanti
Carbonio. He offered me a 10sp version for under $2K and its a full
carbon fibre frame with 105 groupset.

I am however concerned that carbon fibre is inherently expensive so a
new CF bike this cheap must have many cut corners.

Any opinions on Avanti?

byron27 said:

Just a couple of things on the issue, and this is strictly my opinion,
so take it as you may.

My mate bought a Masi from Bike Force, South Perth a couple of months
ago and is happy with it, but he reckons it is no where near as good as
his old bike which was a Klein Quantum. He was dazzled by getting Durace
over his old Ultegra, though now would have bought a Durace groupset and
put it on his old frame. I assume you want your frame to last longer
than your groupset so ignore the groupset.

Also, at around 190cm, i would recommend that if the masi is alloy,
maybe have a good long think about it. From my experience (7 alloy
frames and 195cm) Top end alloy stuff, no worries, mid range,
framesnaptown.

Here's a data point. I'm only 183cm, but am 92kg (fat, lazy
sprinter!), 56,000km on a Trek 1400, no frame damage. This includes a
lot of high-torque frame twisting training and racing. One of my
riders has destroyed a GT frame (88 or so kg, strong sprinter, same
sort of training I do on mine), snapped it at the seatpost/BB junction
after maybe 20,000km? Maybe that's a frame design issue, or maybe I've
been lucky and he hasn't.

Also, CF bikes aren't *necessarily* more expensive these days,
depending on how they're made. A lot of the cost of CF is the moulds,
but these days you can get tubes etc, or get CF made in the same
generic Taiwanese factory (Hello, Cannondale Synapse, 'ello Ernst
Colnago, anyone home? 🙂 ) for not that much. Again, TESTRIDE!!!!

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What Perth bike shops have the best range of road bikes?

Given that price seems to be a driver for you, you might even consider
secondhand from a reputable source. Anyway, as a start I'd try the
whitepages for:

Ideal Cycles, Hilton
Glen Parker Cycles, Nedlands
The Bicycle Entrepreneur, Nedlands, Belmont
Bike Force, Subiaco, Morley
Fleet cycles, Fremantle and Perth
Elite racing cycles, Northbridge
Riders Choice (?), Leederville

You can try www.quokka.com.au and there are often good deals there.

Also, below as per my reply to one of your(?) previous posts a couple of
weeks back. Of course it's now out of date so check their website for
current deals:
-----------------------------------
As for local s/h, Glen Parker's website is showing the following that might
fit the bill, and be a lot safer than buying sight unseen off ebay:

Cinelli Unica, 54cm CTT, Columbus Brain Steel Tubing with Carbon Forks,
Shimano Ultegra 9 spd Groupset, Mavic Cosmic Elite Wheels Classic, Reliable
package for $1950

Colner Paris V-02, 52cm CTC, Aluminium Frame with Carbon Forks, Campagnolo
Daytona/Veloce 10 spd, Campagnolo Vento Wheels In Top Condition and Only
$1250

Look KG361, 54cm CTT, Carbon Fibre Frame and Fork, Campagnolo Centaur 9 spd,
Campagnolo Vento Wheels New $5000+, Now $2400

Look KG386, 57cm CTC, Full Carbon Frame and Fork, Full Shimano Ultegra 9
spd, Vuelta XRP Lite Wheels Less than Half Price at $2400

Merida Pro Issue, Large Compact, 7005 Aluminium Frame, Carbon Forks, 9 spd
Shimano Dura Ace, Shimano 500 Wheels Great Buying at $1200

Opera Leonardo, 55cm CTC, Full Carbon Frame and Fork, Full Campagnolo Chorus
10 spd including Carbon Cranks, Campagnolo Proton Wheels, ITM Bars and Stem
Near New and Now Only $5000

Ridley Boreas, Small Compact, Columbus Zonal Aluminium Frame with Carbon
Seat Stays and Forks, Full Campagnolo Record 10 spd Groupset, Brand New
Campagnolo Vento Wheels Less than Half Price, Only $2950
-----------------------------------

Cheers
David M