McCormack to Colla-Vita Bolla

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  2. On 3 Nov 2003 18:06:44 -0800, [email protected] (Tom Arsenault) wrote:

    >It appears to current US National Champion Mark McCormack will be racing for Colla-Vita Bolla next
    >year. See the story...
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    >http://www.bike.com/template.asp?lsectionnumber=1&lsectiondirectory=headlines&date=11%2F3%2F2003+2-
    >%3A27%3A57+PM

    Interesting. I think he rode for a team sponsored by Bolla in the early 1990s too.

    JT

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  3. Tritonrider

    Tritonrider Guest

    >From: [email protected] (Tom Arsenault)

    >It appears to current US National Champion Mark McCormack will be racing for Colla-Vita Bolla next
    >year. See the story...

    Hope they can get him some help for next year. Mark's a warrior, but he isn't going to be able to
    do it alone. Bill C
     
  4. Danschmatz

    Danschmatz Guest

    They have a few more guys lined up also. They will be a much better team for
    04.
     
  5. [email protected] (DanSchmatz) wrote in message
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    > They have a few more guys lined up also. They will be a much better team for
    > 04.

    They weren't too bad this past season, at least in the SE corner of the US. Thad Dulin looked pretty
    impressive at Michelin in Greenville, SC, and a few other races I saw him at late season. I'm sure
    they'll pick up more, there appears to be a lot of people looking for work this off season.

    Tom
     
  6. Chris

    Chris Guest

    From hearing Mark talk, I think he was realistic about his situation and simply didn't want to
    continue to cross his fingers. At least he's out there one more year and has an option to continue,
    unlike some guys. Besides, my contention about most of the D-3's was lack of leadership on and/or
    off the bike. This is why so many seem to flounder. Regardless, Mark will raise the level of the
    team and they will be better with him 1/2 strength, than without him.

    CH

    [email protected] (DanSchmatz) wrote in message
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    > They have a few more guys lined up also. They will be a much better team for
    > 04.
     
  7. radracer

    radracer New Member

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    Ya they have mcCormack, but they have already signed a few other super strong riders whom i won't mention but i also hear Wohlberg might be riding for them too?
     
  8. Chris

    Chris Guest

    I've known more super strong riders than I can shake a stick at who never did anything big in the
    sport, with more popping up all the time; just look at European riders. There's a lot ot be said for
    professionalism, and McCormack will bring this...Wohlberg's not a bad signing either. But these
    young D-3's need an experienced pro or two to take the next step. Perhaps Colavita will take that
    step, but I wouldn't expect the same from some of the other D-3's.

    Obviously money is an issue...

    radracer <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Ya they have mcCormack, but they have already signed a few other super strong riders whom i won't
    > mention but i also hear Wohlberg might be riding for them too?
     
  9. Bill Laudien

    Bill Laudien Guest

    Harnish wrote
    >>But these young D-3's need an experienced pro or two
    to take the next step. Perhaps Colavita will take that step, but I wouldn't expect the same from
    some of the other D-3's.

    You mean like Sierra Nevada...oh wait, they signed Klasna

    Then you must mean Jittery Joes...hmm, the have Hopkins

    Then maybe Jelly Belly....oh wait Van Haute already indicated they are going to sign someone else in
    that role to help support some of the veteran leadership they already have in place there.

    Then there's that Colorado team that Vaughters...nevermind

    And with Monohan, Carney and and a slate of others avaialble, I WOULD expect some of the young teams
    to seek out leadership and for that leadership to be available.

    Honestly, I try to be understanding, but do you EVER think about shit before you post it ?
     
  10. Chris

    Chris Guest

    Bill,

    PAH-LEASE....Get a life, will you. I mean do you ever think about the shit you say. You nit
    pick every god damn thing I say, and lord knows I try to be understanding! Read what I write in
    full, first.

    I'm sorry I missed the Klasna news, but I more or less stand by my comments, and they are mine to
    make. McCormack, and their other signings, will do more for Colavita than Hopkins will do for
    Jittery Joe's. Does that mean I don't Jeff is a quality rider? No, so don't go blabbing your fat
    trap to people that I said Jeff sucks. Did I also say anything about any other unsigned riders? No,
    so don't go preaching about how high and mighty you are, and how I know nothing. Get off your
    pedastil and come back down to Earth with the rest of us; just because you've run a pro team one
    year, you don't know everything.

    And so I can be clear for your simple thinking, my point was that some (and again, I said some
    originally) of the D-3's won't make the signing move, or perhaps they can't due to money, and they
    won't take that next step. I am so very sorry that you feel that I am singling out your team, but
    seriously man, I never even had Sportsbook on my radar at all. Your's is a different program with
    different goals...

    Chris

    [email protected] (Bill Laudien) wrote in message
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    > Harnish wrote
    > >>But these young D-3's need an experienced pro or two
    > to take the next step. Perhaps Colavita will take that step, but I wouldn't expect the same from
    > some of the other D-3's.
    >
    >
    > You mean like Sierra Nevada...oh wait, they signed Klasna
    >
    > Then you must mean Jittery Joes...hmm, the have Hopkins
    >
    > Then maybe Jelly Belly....oh wait Van Haute already indicated they are going to sign someone else
    > in that role to help support some of the veteran leadership they already have in place there.
    >
    > Then there's that Colorado team that Vaughters...nevermind
    >
    > And with Monohan, Carney and and a slate of others avaialble, I WOULD expect some of the young
    > teams to seek out leadership and for that leadership to be available.
    >
    > Honestly, I try to be understanding, but do you EVER think about shit before you post it ?
     
  11. radracer

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    Hopkins is ok, he doesn't do well in road races, well at least not at univest where he got dropped before the circuit. BILL what is up with SPortsbook this year? New riders? Prospects? More money?
     
  12. Bill Laudien

    Bill Laudien Guest

    Hopkins is great. I'd have him on my team any day of the week and actually tried to get him for last
    year's team. My comment, perhaps not clear, was to show him as an example of a strong leader within
    a small budget team.

    And, for the record, my comments rebutting Harnish didn't mention sportsbook.com nor were they in
    denfense of sportsbook.com. His assertion was that most D3 teams wouldn't or couldn't sign bigger
    riders and i content that ( independant of the Sportsbook.com situation) many have and will.

    That insight comes from having a brain and thinking about what I write, not because of any secret
    insight into the cycling scene.

    radracer <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Hopkins is ok, he doesn't do well in road races, well at least not at univest where he got dropped
    > before the circuit. BILL what is up with SPortsbook this year? New riders? Prospects? More money?
     
  13. Bill Laudien

    Bill Laudien Guest

    Are you retarded ?

    No seriously...are you ?

    I understood your point just fine. My rebuttal was that other teams already have signed some of the
    leadership you speak of, and that's it's very likely other's will. I'm not sure where you got any of
    that other stuff from..well except for that part about me knowing everything, that's actually true.

    [email protected] (chris) wrote in message
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    > Bill,
    >
    > PAH-LEASE....Get a life, will you. I mean do you ever think about the shit you say. You nit
    > pick every god damn thing I say, and lord knows I try to be understanding! Read what I write in
    > full, first.
    >
    > I'm sorry I missed the Klasna news, but I more or less stand by my comments, and they are mine to
    > make. McCormack, and their other signings, will do more for Colavita than Hopkins will do for
    > Jittery Joe's. Does that mean I don't Jeff is a quality rider? No, so don't go blabbing your fat
    > trap to people that I said Jeff sucks. Did I also say anything about any other unsigned riders?
    > No, so don't go preaching about how high and mighty you are, and how I know nothing. Get off your
    > pedastil and come back down to Earth with the rest of us; just because you've run a pro team one
    > year, you don't know everything.
    >
    > And so I can be clear for your simple thinking, my point was that some (and again, I said some
    > originally) of the D-3's won't make the signing move, or perhaps they can't due to money, and they
    > won't take that next step. I am so very sorry that you feel that I am singling out your team, but
    > seriously man, I never even had Sportsbook on my radar at all. Your's is a different program with
    > different goals...
    >
    > Chris
    >
    > [email protected] (Bill Laudien) wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]>...
    > > Harnish wrote
    > > >>But these young D-3's need an experienced pro or two
    > > to take the next step. Perhaps Colavita will take that step, but I wouldn't expect the same from
    > > some of the other D-3's.
    > >
    > >
    > > You mean like Sierra Nevada...oh wait, they signed Klasna
    > >
    > > Then you must mean Jittery Joes...hmm, the have Hopkins
    > >
    > > Then maybe Jelly Belly....oh wait Van Haute already indicated they are going to sign someone
    > > else in that role to help support some of the veteran leadership they already have in place
    > > there.
    > >
    > > Then there's that Colorado team that Vaughters...nevermind
    > >
    > > And with Monohan, Carney and and a slate of others avaialble, I WOULD expect some of the young
    > > teams to seek out leadership and for that leadership to be available.
    > >
    > > Honestly, I try to be understanding, but do you EVER think about shit before you post it ?
     
  14. Chris

    Chris Guest

    Are you retarded?

    Sadly, I know you think you know everything, but NEWS FLASH, you don't. Its apparent there's no
    point in arguing with you.

    My comments were relating to the common practice of D-3 teams to put the cart before the horse
    initially, and continue to try to drive it year after year. Perhaps you'll be right (even I know
    that's possible) and teams will sign more of these riders, but I would guess many don't have the
    cash. Obviously Colavita oil sales must be quite good to put the cash in and I think it'll pay off.
    It will be an interesting year for sure, but in many ways it looks like the domestic seen just a few
    years ago.

    CH
     
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