Everything left intact in case anyone would consider wasting time reading the macro he appends to
virtually all messages he replies to. His other charming tactic is to delete (the <hiss> in this one
is where my words were deleted) or alter quotations in these posts.
Chung has some interesting definitions of what trolling includes. Might want to take notes.
Pastorio
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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>
>>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>>
[email protected] (Dr Zen) wrote in message
>>>news:<
[email protected]>...
>>>
>>>>"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <
[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:<
[email protected]>...
>>>>
>>>>>"Lester T. Linpord" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think the knights in the Middle-Ages never had such heart-problems as we have today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So IMO we should live like people in the Middle Ages again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Swordfights and Jousting are good for your health.
>>>>>
>>>>>Seems that Bob Pastorio subscribes to your theory

>>>>>
>>>>>
http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp
>>>>>
>>>>>But he does have heart problems :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
>>>>>
>>>>>Andrew
>>>>
>>>>Dr Chung
>>>>
>>>>I'm awfully sorry that you've had such problems with Mr Pastorio. I feel a little bit
>>>>responsible, because misc.writing is pretty much his home group, and we should have kept up his
>>>>therapy -- you know how it works with these trolls, if you keep them fed and happy at home they
>>>>don't wander, but we were so *bored* with his constant lies, defamations and ludicrous food-
>>>>based nonsense that we let him slip away.
>>
>><hiss>
>>
>>>>Your diet sounds wonderful. However, I'm worried about its similarities to Professor Chudov's
>>>>patented Two Pounds of **** Diet. Chudov shows that weight can be rapidly lost if the patient
>>>>eats two pounds of faeces each day (it doesn't matter the origin and it's perfectly all right to
>>>>add flavourings, so long as they do not increase the weight by more than an ounce or two). I
>>>>used to have a link to his site, but I'm afraid I've mislaid it. However, one of the regulars in
>>>>misc.writing, William Palmer, is a proselyte of Professor Chudov's and I hope he'll be willing
>>>>to share some information on the benefits of eating **** daily.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, please don't let savages like Bob Pastorio get you down. You're doing fantastic work,
>>>>and that should be applauded, not so savagely libelled by the likes of Bob.
>>>>
>>>>Zen
>>>
>>>Doesn't bother me.
>>
>><hiss>
>>
>>>Here's why:
>>>
>>>Jesus teaches as written in Matthew 5:
>>>
>>>10Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of
>>>heaven.
>>
>><hiss sputter hiss hiss>
>>
>>>Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>>
>>>--
>>>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
>>>
>>>--
>>>Who is the humblest person in the universe?
>>
>><hiss>
>>
>>>
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L21532147
>>
>><hiss>
>>
>>Pastorio
>
>
> You poor guy.
>
> You remain in my prayers, neighbor.
>
> FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the
> message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed
> it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions:
>
> (1) Yell at Bob
> (2) Report Bob to his ISP
> (3) Killfile this thread.
> (4) Killfile me.
> (5) Read about free speech.
>
> Bob's pathological obsessions are related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described
> completely at:
>
>
http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp
>
> Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His
> participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of
> community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious
> beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched:
>
>
http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp
>
> From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound
> diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet
> approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point:
>
>
http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp
>
> These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s).
>
> However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have
> redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to
> be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger."
>
> Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under
> the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of
> starting "flame" wars.
>
> These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations
> were made:
>
> (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously.
> (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s).
> (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal
> weight.
> (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal.
> (c) For (b) see:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47
> (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s).
> (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).
> (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual
> diplomas).
>
> Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's
> credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr.
> Pastorio:
>
>
http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp
>
> When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in
> the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero.
>
> Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can
> easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at:
>
>
http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp
>
> where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials
> were bought are easily and summarily debunked.
>
> Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who
> continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack):
>
> (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability).
> (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters.
> (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults.
> (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting.
> (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author.
>
> and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.
>
> It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed.
>
> It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing
> from the peanut gallery.
>
>
> Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
>
> --
> Who is the humblest person in the universe?
>
>
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L21532147
>
>
>
>
> --
> Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
>
> --
> Who is the humblest person in the universe?
>
>
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L21532147