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  1. I'm doing the cooking for my elderly uncle (79 -- the old
    geezer is tough!), and he's at the point where his doctors
    say, "Let him eat what he wants -- just NO SALT!" Not too
    tough, eh?

    He was watching an episode of "Cookin' in Brooklyn" that
    featured spare ribs, and of course he wanted that. I went to
    the website and here are the ingredients (I'll put the URL
    at the end of this message):

    spare ribs 2 dried chilies ***1/2 cup salt***
    1/2 cup sugar 2-3 onions 4-5 stalks celery 3-5 dry bay
    leaves 4-5 sliced lemons 1-2 yellow beet 2-3 cups
    Vietnamese fish sauce a few sprinkles cracked coriander a
    few sprinkles mustard seeds a few sprinkles black pepper

    I believe the salt serves to break up the meat during
    cooking, so it's necesary. It'll also land him in the
    emergency room.

    Does anyone know of something that can be used in place of
    the salt that will not adversely affect the taste? I'd
    appreciate any help you all can give.

    As promised, here's the URL to the Cookin' in Brooklyn site:
    home.discovery.comcookini
    nbrooklyn.html

    And the url to the spare rib recipe: home.discovery.-home.discovery.-
    com/fansites/cookininbrooklyn/recipes/ribs.html

    Thanks!

    AJ in Bayonne

  2. x-no-archive: yes

    Why don't you try just losing the salt? (Probably the fish
    sauce too; check the sodium count on that.) Salt does make
    cooked meat more appetizing but I don't think it's needed to
    break the meat down.

    You could ask the doc if it's OK to use that Lite salt-- you
    have to ask because it's got both sodium and potassium in
    it, just less sodium--but I think that tastes like [censored]. You
    could use a little more lemon or some wine or vinegar
    instead, perhaps. Naomi D.

  3. AJ said:

    I'm doing the cooking for my elderly uncle (79 -- the old
    geezer is tough!), and he's at the point where his doctors
    say, "Let him eat what he wants -- just NO SALT!" Not too
    tough, eh?

    He was watching an episode of "Cookin' in Brooklyn" that
    featured spare ribs, and of course he wanted that. I went
    to the website and here are the ingredients (I'll put the
    URL at the end of this message):

    spare ribs 2 dried chilies ***1/2 cup salt***
    1/2 cup sugar 2-3 onions 4-5 stalks celery 3-5 dry bay
    leaves 4-5 sliced lemons 1-2 yellow beet 2-3 cups
    Vietnamese fish sauce a few sprinkles cracked coriander
    a few sprinkles mustard seeds a few sprinkles black
    pepper

    I believe the salt serves to break up the meat during
    cooking, so it's necesary. It'll also land him in the
    emergency room.

    Does anyone know of something that can be used in place of
    the salt that will not adversely affect the taste? I'd
    appreciate any help you all can give.

    As promised, here's the URL to the Cookin' in Brooklyn
    site: home.discovery.comcookininbrooklyn
    /cookininbrooklyn.html

    And the url to the spare rib recipe: home.discover-home.discover-
    y.com/fansites/cookininbrooklyn/recipes/ribs.html

    Thanks!

    AJ in Bayonne

    You may find that the fish sauce has salt in it. Haven't a
    bottle handy right now to check. Vinegar?

    jim

  4. AJ said:

    I'm doing the cooking for my elderly uncle (79 -- the old
    geezer is tough!), and he's at the point where his doctors
    say, "Let him eat what he wants -- just NO SALT!" Not too
    tough, eh?

    He was watching an episode of "Cookin' in Brooklyn" that
    featured spare ribs, and of course he wanted that. I went
    to the website and here are the ingredients (I'll put the
    URL at the end of this message):

    spare ribs 2 dried chilies ***1/2 cup salt***


    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    AJ in Bayonne

    Give the "old guy" a break 🙂 My mom was put on a low-salt,
    low-cholesterol diet about 17 years ago (and she's 79 now).
    After following a bland boring diet for years and years, now
    she pretty much eats what she wants and says to Hell with
    them, I've lived this long 😉 That is NOT my recommendation
    for how you should feed your uncle, just what she tells me.

    Anyway, potassium chloride is the usual "salt substitute"
    but in this quantity I would have to say it would probably
    taste very bitter. For this recipe you might try
    substituting some of Penzey's (www.penzeys.com) salt free
    herb or seasoning blends such as the Jerk seasoning. (I
    wouldn't say
    1/2 a cup! Tablespoon, maybe.

    Honestly, once you get used to not adding salt, when you
    taste it in the quantity mentioned for this recipe it
    tastes really weird. Of course, somethings simply demand
    salt, so don't let him watch a show involving Southern
    Fried Chicken 😉

    Jill

  5. First of all, it's not SALT you need to worry about -- it is
    SODIUM. Sodium is IN salt but it's also in all sorts of
    other products. You can not use a single grain of salt while
    cooking but still prepare a meal heavily laden in sodium.

    Quoted message said:

    spare ribs

    Buy these at the butcher, not the grocer -- otherwise, they
    may have added sodium.

    Quoted message said:

    ***1/2 cup salt***

    Egads -- that's 24 teaspoons and there are 2350mg of sodium
    in each teaspoon! US RDA is 2,400mg, and that's 5 times what
    we actually need, let alone a recipe that uses 56,400mg of
    sodium! That's just a heart attack on a plate. If your uncle
    is on a low sodium diet, then he should be getting no more
    than 2,000mg-3,000mg PER DAY -- even most dietitians will
    not go higher than 4,000mg-5,000mg in a 24 hour period.

    Quoted message said:

    2-3 onions

    Not bad -- only about 10 or so mg of sodium.

    Quoted message said:

    4-5 stalks celery

    These are a bit high at around 100mg for a cup of chopped
    celery. Over the course of a recipe they're seldom an issue.

    Quoted message said:

    1-2 yellow beet

    Probably around 125mg or so here.

    Quoted message said:

    2-3 cups Vietnamese fish sauce

    This is going to be kind of high -- you'll want to check
    the label.

    All in all, this recipe is a bit of a problem -- it
    doesn't say how much water to use nor does it say how much
    pork. Half a cup of salt is an awful lot for just a single
    rack of ribs.

    Quoted message said:

    I believe the salt serves to break up the meat during
    cooking, so it's necesary. It'll also land him in the
    emergency room.

    Salt serves no "necessary" purpose in a recipe other than
    flavoring. It may do other things, but nothing that cannot
    be worked around. If you want to break the meat up, cook it
    longer and it will break up on it's own.

    In this particular recipe, the salt is used to flavor the
    meat before covering it in barbecue sauce. Most of the
    flavor you'll get will be from the barbecue sauce so it's a
    bit redundant. Also, a good portion will remain in the
    broth/stock after the meat has cooked but it will be very
    difficult to determine how much would actually be ingested.
    Pork has a goodly amount of sodium anyway. In the end, the
    added salt's just not needed.

    You can use a variety of spices and herbs, all no-sodium, to
    give the broth flavor (and subsequently, the meat).
    Personally, I prefer my ribs barbecued. 🙂 Try preparing the
    recipe without any salt at all, then select a really good
    barbecue sauce. If your uncle is not on any meds that
    potassium would be an issue for, use a couple of tablespoons
    of a salt substitute in the stock.

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone know of something that can be used in place of
    the salt that will not adversely affect the taste? I'd
    appreciate any help you all can give.

    Unfortunately, there's not much you can do to work around
    this 'un. Low sodium is a tough situation for cooking. First
    and foremost, one must get used to eating less sodium --
    once you do, then your tastebuds begin to notice smaller
    amounts. It's like anything else -- if you get too much, you
    overload and more seems like less. Now, you can TRY some
    salt substitutes to either get that number down or replace
    it altogether. The biggest thing is serving size. For
    example, 1/2 cup of salt may be a LOT of sodium, but if it's
    going into a pot that will generate 50 servings then you're
    only consuming 1,128mg (still a helluva lot for someone on
    low sodium).

    There are two types of salt substitute out there that can
    help out -- either the half and half kind (half table salt,
    or sodium chloride (NaCl) mixed with half potassium
    chloride) or just potassium chloride (KCl). KCl has a bit of
    a [censored] to it -- in short, it tastes nasty as hell when eaten
    plain or over something (like french fries). On the other
    hand, it's not so bad when you cook with it from the get go.
    For example, I'll use it to season soupy dishes, fried rice,
    and ground meat crumbles. I'll be boiling up a chicken here
    soon for some soup -- I'll use KCl in the pot when I make
    the broth. Bear in mind that this can be an issue for
    medications however -- you don't want to overdo it on
    potassium if he is taking heart meds that prevent him from
    losing potassium or if he's already on potassium
    supplements.

    You can also look at a variety of spice blends to juice up
    the flavor. Mrs Dash isn't bad (the table blend is great
    when cooking burgers, go figure) and of course you can
    always make your own blends as well. I also use a lot of
    onion and garlic in m dishes -- great for any kind of
    broth/stock type cooking IMHO.

    If you'd like to find some decent low sodium recipes, visit
    lowsodiumcooking.comlowsodiumcooking.com and/or buy the low sodium
    cook books authored by a fellow named Gazanigga (they're up
    on Amazon for something like $12 and $17).

    Low sodium is not an easy lifestyle to get into, but once
    you do it gets much easier. It is VERY important for some
    heart ailments, less so for others, and equally important
    for other ailments that are not even heart related. If you
    have any other questions about low sodium dieting, feel free
    to drop me a line off-group as well.

    James

  6. "AJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm doing the cooking for my elderly uncle (79 -- the old
    geezer is tough!), and he's at the point where his doctors
    say, "Let him eat what he wants -- just NO SALT!" Not too
    tough, eh?

    He was watching an episode of "Cookin' in Brooklyn" that
    featured spare ribs, and of course he wanted that. I went
    to the website and here are the ingredients (I'll put the
    URL at the end of this message):

    spare ribs 2 dried chilies ***1/2 cup salt***
    1/2 cup sugar 2-3 onions 4-5 stalks celery 3-5 dry bay
    leaves 4-5 sliced lemons 1-2 yellow beet 2-3 cups
    Vietnamese fish sauce a few sprinkles cracked coriander
    a few sprinkles mustard seeds a few sprinkles black
    pepper

    I believe the salt serves to break up the meat during
    cooking, so it's necesary. It'll also land him in the
    emergency room.

    Does anyone know of something that can be used in place of
    the salt that will not adversely affect the taste? I'd
    appreciate any help you all can give.

    As promised, here's the URL to the Cookin' in Brooklyn
    site: home.discovery.comcookininbrooklyn
    /cookininbrooklyn.html

    And the url to the spare rib recipe: home.discover-home.discover-
    y.com/fansites/cookininbrooklyn/recipes/ribs.html

    Thanks!

    AJ in Bayonne

    MSG will enhance the flavors - certainly not 1/2 cup. Start
    with maybe a teaspoon then taste.

    Dimitri

  7. Uhh - there's a really nasty typo in this recipe.
    Matter of fact, I think the whole recipe is a hoax (or
    at least written very poorly by someone who doesn't
    have clue how to cook).

    Quoted message said:

    2-3 cups Vietnamese fish sauce

    An unknown quantity of ribs boiled in 3 cups of fish sauce
    for 2 hours? And then 2 more hours in an oven (with some
    sort of "BBQ sauce"😉 at some unknown temperature.

    You'll never get the stench out of your house, and I can't
    even imagine the resulting ribs.

    -sw

  8. i use NO SALT brand! exclusively!

    --
    rosie

    Have you heard of the NO-CARB Diet for 2004? NO C-heney NO
    A-shcroft NO R-umsfeld NO B-ush

    "AJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    : I'm doing the cooking for my elderly uncle (79 -- the
    : old geezer
    is
    : tough!), and he's at the point where his doctors say, "Let
    : him eat what he wants -- just NO SALT!" Not too tough, eh?
    :
    : He was watching an episode of "Cookin' in Brooklyn" that
    : featured spare ribs, and of course he wanted that. I went
    : to the website
    and
    : here are the ingredients (I'll put the URL at the end of
    : this message):
    :
    : spare ribs 2 dried chilies ***1/2 cup salt***
    : 1/2 cup sugar 2-3 onions 4-5 stalks celery 3-5 dry bay
    : leaves 4-5 sliced lemons 1-2 yellow beet 2-3 cups
    : Vietnamese fish sauce a few sprinkles cracked coriander
    : a few sprinkles mustard seeds a few sprinkles black
    : pepper
    :
    : I believe the salt serves to break up the meat during
    : cooking, so
    it's
    : necesary. It'll also land him in the emergency room.
    :
    : Does anyone know of something that can be used in
    : place of the
    salt
    : that will not adversely affect the taste? I'd appreciate
    : any help
    you
    : all can give.
    :
    : As promised, here's the URL to the Cookin' in
    : Brooklyn site:
    :
    home.discovery.comcookini
    nbrooklyn.html
    :
    : And the url to the spare rib recipe:
    :
    home.discovery.comrecipes
    /ribs.html
    :
    : Thanks!
    :
    : AJ in Bayonne

  9. AJ said:


    I'm doing the cooking for my elderly uncle (79 -- the old
    geezer is tough!), and he's at the point where his doctors
    say, "Let him eat what he wants -- just NO SALT!" Not too
    tough, eh?

    He was watching an episode of "Cookin' in Brooklyn" that
    featured spare ribs, and of course he wanted that. I went
    to the website and here are the ingredients (I'll put the
    URL at the end of this message):

    spare ribs 2 dried chilies ***1/2 cup salt***
    1/2 cup sugar

    Let the sugar do the job. blacksalt

  10. Quoted message said:

    MSG will enhance the flavors - certainly not 1/2 cup.
    Start with maybe a teaspoon then taste.

    MSG typically has 1/3rd the volume of sodium found in table
    salt. A teaspoon of table salt has about 2,350mg of sodium
    so a teaspoon of MSG would have about 800mg of sodium. On
    the plus side, it usually takes less MSG to get the flavor
    one would use more salt for in a recipe.

    There are a number of drawbacks to MSG, primarily due to the
    G part and how it's manufactured. In the old days, it was
    extracted -- now it is made through a fermentation process.
    Anti-MSG types argue that it is laden with contaminants, and
    so forth (standard arguments against such items apply). Some
    folks are also sensitive to MSG (as in allergic). Ever heard
    of "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome"? That is thought to be
    caused by MSG. For some information from the anti-MSG
    faction, you can start at nomsg.comnomsg.com -- the site
    is no longer being updated but you can use it as a starting
    point. On the other hand, if you do the research you'll find
    plenty of support for MSG as a perfectly safe food additive.

    For those of us who need to be low sodium, in the end we
    need to avoid all sources of sodium as much as is possible
    -- including MSG. There are also some arguments against MSG
    for heart health reasons as well.

    FWIW....

    James

  11. I will get flamed for this, but I believe the salt and sugar
    are used to make a brine for the ribs. Salt and sugar work
    as carriers to bring all the flavors through the meat. Most
    of the salt will remain in the liquid and not in the flesh.
    Put the ribs in the solution for 12 hours and then remove
    the ribs and cook them. Throw the brine away.

    "JimLane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1086120692.490673@news-
    1.nethere.net...

    Quoted message said:
    AJ said:

    I'm doing the cooking for my elderly uncle (79 -- the
    old geezer is tough!), and he's at the point where his
    doctors say, "Let him eat what he wants -- just NO
    SALT!" Not too tough, eh?

    He was watching an episode of "Cookin' in Brooklyn" that
    featured spare ribs, and of course he wanted that. I
    went to the website and here are the ingredients (I'll
    put the URL at the end of this message):

    spare ribs 2 dried chilies ***1/2 cup salt***
    1/2 cup sugar 2-3 onions 4-5 stalks celery 3-5 dry bay
    leaves 4-5 sliced lemons 1-2 yellow beet 2-3 cups
    Vietnamese fish sauce a few sprinkles cracked
    coriander a few sprinkles mustard seeds a few
    sprinkles black pepper

    I believe the salt serves to break up the meat during
    cooking, so it's necesary. It'll also land him in the
    emergency room.

    Does anyone know of something that can be used in place
    of the salt that will not adversely affect the taste?
    I'd appreciate any help you all can give.

    As promised, here's the URL to the Cookin' in
    Brooklyn site:


    home.discovery.comcookini
    nbrooklyn.html

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    And the url to the spare rib recipe: home.discov-home.discov-
    ery.com/fansites/cookininbrooklyn/recipes/ribs.html

    Thanks!

    AJ in Bayonne

    You may find that the fish sauce has salt in it. Haven't a
    bottle handy right now to check. Vinegar?

    jim

  12. Quoted message said:

    "AJ" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    : I'm doing the cooking for my elderly uncle (79 -- the
    : old geezer
    is
    : tough!), and he's at the point where his doctors say,
    : "Let him eat what he wants -- just NO SALT!" Not too
    : tough, eh?
    :
    : He was watching an episode of "Cookin' in Brooklyn" that
    : featured spare ribs, and of course he wanted that. I went
    : to the website
    and
    : here are the ingredients (I'll put the URL at the end of
    : this message):

    Quoted message said:

    : ***1/2 cup salt***

    Quoted message said:

    : 2-3 cups Vietnamese fish sauce


    (700mg sodium per TABLESPOON)

    home.discovery.comrecipes
    /ribs.html

    As the ribs are not simply soaked in the salty solution
    (brined), but boiled in it for hours, this *is* going to be
    a collosally salty dish. Not to mention covering in
    "barbecue sauce" (from a bottle, one assumes) for the final
    cooking. I suggest you find another recipe for BBQ ribs.

  13. jmcquown said:

    Anyway, potassium chloride is the usual "salt substitute"
    but in this quantity I would have to say it would probably
    taste very bitter. For this recipe you might try
    substituting some of Penzey's (www.penzeys.com) salt free
    herb or seasoning blends such as the Jerk seasoning. (I
    wouldn't say
    1/2 a cup!

    Why? That will utterly change the recipe.

    Sometimes you can add flavor by adding herbs etc. instead of
    salt, but sometimes the salt performs a different function,
    as it does in this recipe. It's important to look at that
    before making a substitution.

    D.
    --
    Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

  14. JNJ said:
    Quoted message said:

    ***1/2 cup salt***

    Egads -- that's 24 teaspoons and there are 2350mg of sodium
    in each teaspoon! US RDA is 2,400mg, and that's 5 times
    what we actually need, let alone a recipe that uses
    56,400mg of sodium! That's just a heart attack on a plate.
    If your uncle is on a low sodium diet, then he should be
    getting no more than 2,000mg-3,000mg PER DAY -- even most
    dietitians will not go higher than 4,000mg-5,000mg in a 24
    hour period.

    Egads - try reading the actual recipe and noting that this
    salt is in a *brine*. While the old gentleman will likely
    get more salt than he should eating this recipe, it still
    won't be anywhere near 56,400mg.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I believe the salt serves to break up the meat during
    cooking, so it's necesary. It'll also land him in the
    emergency room.

    Salt serves no "necessary" purpose in a recipe other than
    flavoring. It may do other things, but nothing that cannot
    be worked around.

    Um, no. Salt also serves to set up the differences in
    osmotic pressure needed to make a brine work. That may or
    may not need to be worked around.

    D.
    --
    Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

  15. kalanamak <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Let the sugar do the job. blacksalt

    I forgot to mention -- he has trouble with his sugar as
    well. It's a [censored] to get old & sick.

    AJ

  16. "JNJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    MSG will enhance the flavors - certainly not 1/2 cup.
    Start with maybe a teaspoon then taste.

    MSG typically has 1/3rd the volume of sodium found in
    table salt. A teaspoon of table salt has about 2,350mg of
    sodium so a teaspoon of MSG would have about 800mg of
    sodium. On the plus side, it usually takes less MSG to get
    the flavor one would use more salt for in a recipe.

    There are a number of drawbacks to MSG, primarily due to
    the G part and how it's manufactured. In the old days, it
    was extracted -- now it is made through a fermentation
    process. Anti-MSG types argue that it is laden with
    contaminants, and so forth (standard arguments against
    such items apply). Some folks are also sensitive to MSG
    (as in allergic). Ever heard of "Chinese Restaurant
    Syndrome"? That is thought to be caused by MSG. For some
    information from the anti-MSG faction, you can start at
    nomsg.comnomsg.com -- the site is no longer being
    updated but you can use it as a starting point. On the
    other hand, if you do the research you'll find plenty of
    support for MSG as a perfectly safe food additive.

    For those of us who need to be low sodium, in the end we
    need to avoid all sources of sodium as much as is possible
    -- including MSG. There are also some arguments against
    MSG for heart health reasons as well.

    Citric acid (aka sour salt) is one substitute.

    I really like Penzys Florida Seasoned Pepper. Besides
    pepper, the ingredients are lemon peel, orange peel, critic
    acid, garlic, and onion.

    Penzy Singapore Seasoning includes lemon peel and citric
    acid -- no salt.

    --
    Dan Goodman Journal dsgood.blogspot.comdsgood.blogspot.com or
    livejournal.comdsgood Whatever you wish
    for me, may you have twice as much.

  17. Don't boil it the solution. Take the ribs and bake or BBQ.

    "Frogleg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "AJ" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    : I'm doing the cooking for my elderly uncle (79 -- the
    : old geezer
    is
    : tough!), and he's at the point where his doctors say,
    : "Let him eat what he wants -- just NO SALT!" Not too
    : tough, eh?
    :
    : He was watching an episode of "Cookin' in Brooklyn"
    : that featured spare ribs, and of course he wanted that.
    : I went to the website
    and
    : here are the ingredients (I'll put the URL at the end
    : of this message):

    Quoted message said:

    : ***1/2 cup salt***

    Quoted message said:

    : 2-3 cups Vietnamese fish sauce


    (700mg sodium per TABLESPOON)

    home.discovery.comrecip
    es/ribs.html

    As the ribs are not simply soaked in the salty solution
    (brined), but boiled in it for hours, this *is* going
    to be a collosally salty dish. Not to mention covering
    in "barbecue sauce" (from a bottle, one assumes) for
    the final cooking. I suggest you find another recipe
    for BBQ ribs.

  18. Quoted message said:

    Egads - try reading the actual recipe and noting that this
    salt is in a *brine*.

    Not the way this recipe reads. That might be the intention
    but nonetheless.... Keep that pork in there as long as the
    recipe suggests and you'll have a dark salt block when
    you're through.

    Quoted message said:

    While the old gentleman will likely get more salt than he
    should eating this recipe, it still won't be anywhere near
    56,400mg.

    Of course not -- I was not suggesting he would be
    consuming 56,400mg.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Salt serves no "necessary" purpose in a recipe other than
    flavoring. It


    may

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    do other things, but nothing that cannot be worked around.

    Um, no. Salt also serves to set up the differences in
    osmotic pressure needed to make a brine work. That may or
    may not need to be worked around.

    Um, yes. Salt serves no necessary purpose in a recipe other
    than flavoring. Period. Salt's other values can be worked
    around with other techniques.

    Brining is used to make meat more moist, juicy and tender.
    When muscle is cooked its proteins tends to denature, making
    it drier and sometimes tough. By brining it first, the meat
    will take up extra fluid and it takes quite a bit more to
    get that extra moisture out. There's just one problem with
    this -- that fluid contains large amounts of sodium and the
    meat doesn't just soak up the water, it gets quite a bit of
    the sodium as well.

    As for salt serving to "...set up the differences in osmotic
    pressure..." that's a bit of a stretch. Osmosis involves the
    passing of fluid through a semipermeable membrane. Salt
    causes certain proteins to denature then water from the
    brine will bind with some of the protein's now broken bonds
    and still more gets trapped between the proteins.

    James

  19. On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:31:58 GMT, [email hidden] (Derek

    Lyons) said:
    JNJ said:
    Quoted message said:

    ***1/2 cup salt***

    Egads -- that's 24 teaspoons and there are 2350mg of
    sodium in each teaspoon! US RDA is 2,400mg, and that's 5
    times what we actually need, let alone a recipe that uses
    56,400mg of sodium! That's just a heart attack on a plate.
    If your uncle is on a low sodium diet, then he should be
    getting no more than 2,000mg-3,000mg PER DAY -- even most
    dietitians will not go higher than 4,000mg-5,000mg in a 24
    hour period.

    Egads - try reading the actual recipe and noting that this
    salt is in a *brine*. While the old gentleman will likely
    get more salt than he should eating this recipe, it still
    won't be anywhere near 56,400mg.

    Reading the actual recipe reveals that the ribs are *boiled*
    for several hours in the "brine," not merely soaked in
    preparation for cooking. OTOH, JNJ is assuming one person
    would consume the entire amount of salt used in this very
    casual recipe (which does not specify number of servings or
    amount of meat).

  20. Dan Goodman said:

    "JNJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    MSG will enhance the flavors - certainly not 1/2 cup.
    Start with maybe a teaspoon then taste.

    For those of us who need to be low sodium, in the end we
    need to avoid all sources of sodium as much as is
    possible -- including MSG. There are also some arguments
    against MSG for heart health reasons as well.

    Citric acid (aka sour salt) is one substitute.

    I really like Penzys Florida Seasoned Pepper. Besides
    pepper, the ingredients are lemon peel, orange peel,
    critic acid, garlic, and onion.

    Penzy Singapore Seasoning includes lemon peel and citric
    acid -- no salt.

    I like both of those seasonings, Dan. The Florida and the
    Singapore.

    Jill

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