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  1. http://www.fumento.com/biotech/drano.html

    Begin Quote:
    " Did you ever think that the leading cause of death in this country could
    be prevented with a genetically-engineered bacterium? Well start thinking,
    because that's where that "Drano for the arteries" that you probably heard
    about came from. And it's merely a harbinger of how biotechnology is
    revolutionizing heart therapy.

    About 25 years ago, scientists discovered that some people in northern Italy
    had a remarkably low rate of heart disease ......"

    I think that's the limit of fair use copying, for the rest, see the link.

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  2. Heh-heh another Michael Fumento fan. If Jan Drew reads him, she might get a
    clue about ADHD.

    "Doug" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.fumento.com/biotech/drano.html

    Begin Quote:
    " Did you ever think that the leading cause of death in this country could
    be prevented with a genetically-engineered bacterium? Well start thinking,
    because that's where that "Drano for the arteries" that you probably heard
    about came from. And it's merely a harbinger of how biotechnology is
    revolutionizing heart therapy.

    About 25 years ago, scientists discovered that some people in northern


    Italy

    Quoted message said:

    had a remarkably low rate of heart disease ......"

    I think that's the limit of fair use copying, for the rest, see the link.

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  3. Markiosos Probertiosos said:

    Heh-heh another Michael Fumento fan. If Jan Drew reads him, she might get a
    clue about ADHD.

    I would love to hear Jan's opinion of what Michael Fumento thinks
    about MCS and Gulf Whine Syndrome.

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 http://www.ratbags.com/loon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  4. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Not alternative, but still pretty cool
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 11/25/2003 8:40 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Markiosos Probertiosos said:

    Heh-heh another Michael Fumento fan. If Jan Drew reads him, she might get a
    clue about ADHD.

    http://www.pegmusic.com/ritalin-purge.html

    RITALIN KILLS BRAIN FUNCTIONS
    Who's going to PAY for the HORROR wrought by Ritalin
    on our children through administrations by the Country's
    misquided school systems, pushed by government and the "legal" drug cartels?
    OUR next Generations are at Risk from many fronts -
    ONE OF THE WORST IS RITALIN

    Presenting the latest findings on the RITALIN craze with the hope that a few
    good people will come forth to stop this insult to the children of America.
    Remember, someone invented a pseudo-psychological mumbo-jumbo mental illness to
    JUSTIFY the use of RITALIN to dumb-down our children, and make them
    RotF's(Robots of the Flesh), or 'pod' people, and even worse, as more data is
    showing a relationship between these mind-damaging drugs and the killer-kids.
    From WAPO; with comment ~~ 1/9/02
    Looks like our friendly doctors are wearing down and ~~~ UNDER SO-CALLED
    MANAGED-CARE PROGRAMS, ARE HANDING OUT PRESCRIPTIONS FOR ANTI-DEPRESSANTS LIKE
    CANDY.
    According to a report in the Journal of the American Medical Association, 2.3%
    of the U.S. population, about six and a half million people, are being treated
    for depression, a tripling in ten years. The WAPO called this a "sea-change"
    propelled by multi-million-dollar marketing campaigns by drug companies for
    "powerful" drugs, including Prozac.

    Visits to doctors for depression have decreased by one third. The assistant
    director of the American Psychological Association said, "It's much more likely
    and much easier for the physician to say, 'Okay, you're feeling depressed,
    here, try this pill.'"

    Sounds like doctors are taking a page from the school Ritalin Program, and
    adding it to the Book of "Humanity ~~ Be the Least You Can Be!"

    What say You?

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------

    Shocking News to Use to Stop the Purveyors of Ritalin~|~|
    Found some sites that better Present the Case Against Ritalin

    A Must See! ADD and other Myths
    An Excerpt:
    From a letter by Fred A. Baughman Jr., MD to Stephen E. Hyman, MD, Director
    February 4, 2000
    ....What this means, as you, I, and Dr. Castellanos understand with perfect
    clarity -- even if the public remains confused and deceived on this point is
    that not a single one of the 5-6 million children in the US labeled "ADHD"
    bears objective evidence of a physical or chemical abnormality establishing
    that they are diseased—other than normal. And, "No!" it is not O.K. to drug
    children because you believe they will be proved at some time in the future to
    have a disease.
    Nothing has changed since 1998! Nothing has changed since 1980; when ADD was
    invented for inclusion in the American Psychiatric Association’s DSM-III!
    [DSM-III, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual 3]

    More Amunition! Pennsylvania Testimony
    An Excerpt:
    The use of these drugs, on a dramatic rise amongst school children,
    particularly over the last two decades, is a primary factor in the creation of
    acts of random senseless violence among our youth. Indeed, while all manner of
    reasons have been offered for the recent rash of school shootings, the simple
    but frightening fact is that the rise of senseless violence in our schools is
    date co-incident with, and directly tied to, the increased use of these
    prescribed mind altering, mood-changing drugs.
    And why should we not be surprised...?
    There are now approximately 4 million children on the psychiatric drug Ritalin
    alone¹, a drug which the World health Organization and the U.S. Drug
    Enforcement Agency (DEA) place in the same category as morphine, opium, and
    cocaine - the drug category with the highest potential for abuse.² Ritalin is
    an amphetamine-like drug widely prescribed to children for the alleged mental
    disorder Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) a psychiatric label
    for children who fidget or are inattentive - the veracity of which I will
    address shortly.

    Ritalin Has Become a National Problem! This Monster has Turned Illegal!

    JANUARY 16, 2001
    Today the news media has uncorked an evil genii, how the Ritalin Scourge has
    gone illegal. Ritalin, handled badly by all levels of government and education,
    is available, like peanuts, to all kids of all ages. Ritalin is highly
    addictive and easy to obtain. It's use is widespread, both "legally" and
    illegally, just because American Parents bought into some "Crack-Heads"
    invention of ADDS, out of the blue. Read on.

    [Source: Brian MacQuarrie and Rick Klein, "`Targeted' for Death";
    Beth Daley and Anne Barnard, "Accused Gunman's Past Shows
    Quirks"; both in Boston Globe, Dec. 28, 2000]
    REPORT MASSACHUSETTS SHOOTER SATANIC VIDEO GAME AFFICIONADO.
    Michael McDermott, who coldly shot seven people to death in a
    dot-com office, was reportedly a devotee of video games, in
    particular the satanic medieval fantasy role-playing game
    "Dungeons and Dragons."
    In recent years McDermott, a former Navy submariner, has
    been "taking an antidepressant drug similar to Prozac or Zoloft,"
    which "can cause ... agitation," and other prescribed
    psychotropic drugs, so far unspecified in reports. [ahc]

    The Scientific Reason to Stop the Ritalin Plague on our Children!!

    A group founded by Dr. Peter Breggin, is attacking the current biologocally
    oriented approach to "mental health", especially when it comes to the "quick
    hit" drugs (Ritalin, Prozac, and others) in "controlling" behavior.
    Dr. Breggin, a Maryland based psychiatrist, has been battling against these
    mind-destruction drugs for decades. Obviously, his group needs help in this
    fight from parents, teachers, gov't and pharmaceutical whistle blowers, who
    have witnessed the horrible devastation wrought on the minds and normal
    personalities of our children and adult citizens.
    It appears that Ritalin and other mind-destroying drugs are only given in
    Anglo-Saxon countries influenced by the British(Evil Empire). Sorry to report
    that Spain and Israel are starting to fall under the influence of using these
    drugs. France, as an independent nation-state that is slowly withdrawing from
    the influence of the Evil Empire, views the schools' mission to create
    citizens, and does not even dispense aspirin. Ritalin, in France is looked upon
    as a dangerous narcotic. The idea of giving a child a drug is considered
    outrageous, when the problem is not the child but the home or school
    environment.
    Remember, out there, you people, that a child is normally playful and curious.
    Giving a child Ritalin makes him a zombie, willing to submit to monotonous
    activity. Today, this is seen by our insane experimenters and gruesomely stupid
    teachers as something good, when actually it is an adverse effect of the drug.
    Know ye that Ritalin interferes with normal brain chemistry, disrupting the
    normal daily growth hormone activity, stunting a child's growth.
    Ritalin and other highly addictive drugs are strictly banned throughout the
    world, yet handed out like candy or popcorn in our American schools for the
    convenience of teachers, self-serving parents, and undoubtedly a couple large
    profit-hungry pharmaceuticals.
    So join the battle to save our children from this crime against humanity.

    For more information and to become more effective in this fight, a list of
    telephone numbers is shown below:

    Washington, D.C. - 202/544-7087
    Philadelphia, PA - 610/734-7080
    Seattle, WA- - - - 206/362-9091
    Phoenix, AZ- - - - 602/9923276
    Chicago, IL- - - - 312/335-6100
    Leesburg, VA - - - 703/777-9451
    Houston, TX- - - - 713/541-2907
    Minneapolis, MN- - 612/591-9329
    Lincoln, NE- - - - 402/946-3981
    Mt. Vernon, SD - - 605/996-7022
    all else fails - -1-800-409-6025

    Quoted message said:

    I would love to hear Jan's opinion of what Michael Fumento thinks
    about MCS and Gulf Whine Syndrome.

    There you have it, Gulf *Whine* Syndrome.

    A disgrace that the men who fought for our freedom must bare this kind of
    garbage from *organized medicine*

    I wonder why Mark and Peter hate kids and those who fought for our freedom so
    much??

    Furthermore, Peter can't answer my question.

    Did Dr Kadile kill a patient?

    Why is he being prosecuted when Dr Wilson who killed, committed fraud, told
    lies, cover-ups, kept secrets from the patient and his family, plus a whole
    list of wrong doings including *deliberate* violations, and still remains on
    staff??

    It appears not one single debunker can answer.

    Never heard of Micheal Fumento, but if he is recommended by these two, there is
    a definite clue that I am not the slightest bit interested.

    Hope that helps.

    Jan

    Rich is a cyberstalker and he has been stalking Jan for a long time. John Bain

    Rich said:

    Are you sure my name is Richard Jacobson??
    Is it or isn't it?

    Negative.

    I am grateful for one thing; that Richard Jacobson is not my real name.
    Unfortunately the Richard Jacobson that DOES live in Hawaii may not be too
    happy with my assuming his name for purposes of the internet especially given
    the recent events. He happens to live on a different island from me. I do plan
    to contact him to let him know that someone may try to harass him since he is
    listed in the phone book.

    ===
    Aloha,Rich
    ------------------------
    ------------------------
    Richard H. Jacobson
    Always remember to put Horace before Descarte

  5. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Not alternative, but still pretty cool
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 11/25/2003 8:40 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Markiosos Probertiosos" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    There you have it, Gulf *Whine* Syndrome.

    A disgrace that the men who fought for our freedom must bare this kind of
    garbage from *organized medicine*

    I wonder why Mark and Peter hate kids and those who fought for our freedom


    so

    Quoted message said:

    much??

    Jan, you are an [censored]. 386 Computers

    Where have I ever said I doubt the validity of Gul War Syndrome? Can YOU
    find one word where I said it is not a valid problem?

    Of course you cannot.

    You are a liar.

  6. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Not alternative, but still pretty cool
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 11/25/2003 8:40 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Markiosos Probertiosos said:

    Heh-heh another Michael Fumento fan. If Jan Drew reads him, she might


    get a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    clue about ADHD.

    http://www.pegmusic.com/ritalin-purge.html

    RITALIN KILLS BRAIN FUNCTIONS
    Who's going to PAY for the HORROR wrought by Ritalin
    on our children through administrations by the Country's
    misquided school systems, pushed by government and the "legal" drug


    cartels?

    Quoted message said:

    OUR next Generations are at Risk from many fronts -
    ONE OF THE WORST IS RITALIN


    <snip - copied rant about ritalin>

    No, no risk of Jan getting any sort of clue.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I would love to hear Jan's opinion of what Michael Fumento thinks
    about MCS and Gulf Whine Syndrome.

    There you have it, Gulf *Whine* Syndrome.

    A disgrace that the men who fought for our freedom must bare this kind of
    garbage from *organized medicine*

    I wonder why Mark and Peter hate kids and those who fought for our freedom


    so

    Quoted message said:

    much??

    They don't.
    I for one think they did a good job in kicking Saddams [censored].
    I personally just don't think that they should be worried by what has turned
    out to be a non existent disease.

    Quoted message said:

    Furthermore, Peter can't answer my question.

    Did Dr Kadile kill a patient?

    Not yet, but he would have.

    Quoted message said:


    Why is he being prosecuted when Dr Wilson who killed, committed fraud,


    told

    Quoted message said:

    lies, cover-ups, kept secrets from the patient and his family, plus a


    whole

    Quoted message said:

    list of wrong doings including *deliberate* violations, and still remains


    on

    Quoted message said:

    staff??

    Even if true, this does not excuse Kadile.

    Quoted message said:

    Never heard of Micheal Fumento, but if he is recommended by these two,


    there is

    Quoted message said:

    a definite clue that I am not the slightest bit interested.

    Hope that helps.

    Jan

    Jan, you should send him an email.
    He needs some material for hate mail volume 19.

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  7. Doug said:

    http://www.fumento.com/biotech/drano.html

    Begin Quote:
    " Did you ever think that the leading cause of death in this country could
    be prevented with a genetically-engineered bacterium? Well start thinking,
    because that's where that "Drano for the arteries" that you probably heard
    about came from. And it's merely a harbinger of how biotechnology is
    revolutionizing heart therapy.

    AND ... unmlike chelation, it's backed up by MRIs showing a
    measurable decrease in the plaque when pre and post therapy scans
    are compared.

    Tsu Dho Nimh

    --
    When businesses invoke the "protection of consumers," it's a lot like
    politicians invoking morality and children - grab your wallet and/or
    your kid and run for your life.

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