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  1. Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a
    weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a
    sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to
    move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and
    ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

  2. Okay, I give up, you win. I am very impressed.

    Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think she meant that when you get
    to 155, you will want to weigh less than that? I have wondered that a lot myself. This week, at 157
    and thereabouts, I find that I totally don't want to get much more off. I don't feel quite as well
    as I do at 160. But I want to stay under 160. I may be done, right here. I will get my NYNY goal
    this week unless some really bizarre thing happens.

    So you win. Not going there most likely. (unless you gain of course)

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a
    weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a
    sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to
    move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and
    ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

  3. W O W !!!!

    Since I still can't imagine actually reaching goal, I'm even less able to imagine your quandary
    about whether you hava a sufficient cushion. I think I like Lesanne's idea though (elsewhere in this
    thread) about picking a weight equivalent to a line drawn in the sand.

    Prairie Roots

    Fred said:

    Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a
    weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a
    sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to
    move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and
    ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

  4. Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is getting bigger, soon you'll be
    able to really bundle up when at meetings. Congratulations!!

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a
    weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a
    sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to
    move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and
    ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

  5. Great job on the loss Fred!!!!

    --
    Janice
    263/253.75/150 (maybe 130)

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a
    weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a
    sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to
    move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and
    ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

  6. good, Lee
    Fred <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a
    weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a
    sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to
    move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and
    ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

  7. Great job this week.

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a
    weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a
    sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to
    move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and
    ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

  8. On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:36:20 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Okay, I give up, you win. I am very impressed.

    I am not sure what I did this past week and since I do not Journal anymore other than eating the
    same basic stuff, there is nothing to check against. I did not get as much exercise but maybe raking
    up and wheelbarrowing lots and lots of leaves. Or maybe my portions are actually smaller than I
    perceive, other than breakfast where I know I am doing more than one cup of cereal.

    Quoted message said:

    Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think she meant that when you get
    to 155, you will want to weigh less than that?

    Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down for "safety" I might want to move
    it down just a bit further so that I draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one - like
    164, oh, well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155 should be just a rough idea
    and hovering now would be fine. Up a pound down a pound. I know the rules. I occasionally break the
    rules but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like purchasing a Costco Fruitcake today
    (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one piece I have already eaten. And I probably "chawed" half a
    bag of gummy bears last night and these are not tiny bags.

    Quoted message said:

    have wondered that a lot myself. This week, at 157 and thereabouts, I find that I totally don't
    want to get much more off. I don't feel quite as well as I do at 160. But I want to stay under
    160. I may be done, right here. I will get my NYNY goal this week unless some really bizarre
    thing happens.

    You know I just had to look to see what the goal was. I was not sure it was 160 or 155. So I will
    call a truce, too. Life fireworks - safe and sane.

    Quoted message said:

    So you win. Not going there most likely. (unless you gain of course)

    I will gain, of course. Xmas parties are coming up. And last night I was asked to make a gourmet,
    decadent dessert like my Christmas log (what a pain that one always is!!!) I'm still thinking of the
    sweet potato cheesecake but maybe frosting it with a chocolate glaze.

    Fred

    Quoted message said:

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a
    weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a
    sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to
    move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and
    ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002


  9. I think that I'm at that "line drawn in the sand" place now.

    Let me put it this way - I'm not trying for anorexia. And I am eating and appear to have sufficient
    energy for my activities. I restocked the dates and mango at Costco along with picking up a fruit
    cake (too bad they can't go more natural on their baked offerings) And while there is still a ripple
    around the middle, at my age it may be skin.

    I know my secretary (who is a WW leader) is very big on people getting to their goal weight and
    really trying to MAINTAIN. And I would think that my floating up a bit and down a bit is there.

    And I believe with your attitude, you will reach goal and Lifetime.

    Prairie Roots said:

    W O W !!!!

    Since I still can't imagine actually reaching goal, I'm even less able to imagine your quandary
    about whether you hava a sufficient cushion. I think I like Lesanne's idea though (elsewhere in
    this thread) about picking a weight equivalent to a line drawn in the sand.

    Prairie Roots

    Fred said:

    Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a
    weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a
    sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to
    move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and
    ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

  10. Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one aspect of being thinner - I am
    running colder. I probably should rev up the metabolism by doing weights for the upper body.

    Brenda Hammond said:

    Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is getting bigger, soon you'll
    be able to really bundle up when at meetings. Congratulations!!

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a
    weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a
    sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to
    move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and
    ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002


  11. Thanks. I think I'm there

    Janice Kennish said:

    Great job on the loss Fred!!!!

  12. thanks

    Miss Violette said:

    good, Lee Fred <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a
    weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a
    sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to
    move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and
    ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002


  13. Thank you

    Laura said:

    Great job this week.

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a
    weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a
    sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to
    move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and
    ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

  14. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think


    she

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that?

    Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down for "safety" I might want to move
    it down just a bit further so that I draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one - like
    164, oh, well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155 should be just a rough idea
    and hovering now would be fine. Up a pound down a pound. I know the rules. I occasionally break
    the rules but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like purchasing a Costco Fruitcake
    today (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one piece I have already eaten. And I probably "chawed"
    half a bag of gummy bears last night and these are not tiny bags.

    Just this part, clipped the rest. I can see myself not ever being "done" just from the terror of
    going the other way. I am going to set my "back to journalin" number at 160, and let it be. I too
    have not been journaling this past week and I am at a new low. I think this just takes daily weigh
    ins, and a willingness to go back on program when the one sixes show, and hanging around here to
    keep the focus. I really have a hard time believing this. I was somewhere yesterday and someone I
    did not know well said something that caused me to say something about being fat 🙂 They looked at
    me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh I forgot. I'm not.

  15. Thanks for the vote of confidence. This week I'm not sure I agree. So I'll rely on your confidence
    until I regain some of my own.

    Fred said:

    And I believe with your attitude, you will reach goal and Lifetime.

    Prairie Roots
    232/170.8/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

  16. A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc. Now I'm wearing sweaters,
    fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the time! I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we
    don't feel the cold so much?
    --
    Brenda
    209/174/150 NYNY goal 160

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one aspect of being thinner - I am
    running colder. I probably should rev up the metabolism by doing weights for the upper body.

    Brenda Hammond said:

    Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is getting bigger, soon you'll
    be able to really bundle up when at meetings. Congratulations!!

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay here we go:

    I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

    (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current
    wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the
    chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

    Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

    But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had
    a weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to
    have a sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will
    not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and
    so forth and ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

    (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)

    Fred
    219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

  17. That is well put. I have been UP there now twice. So I know what's possible. But I also know I have
    a lot more tools as far as food consumption. Now, attitude, mood, spirit, whatever might have more
    power behind it then just the tools. So it will need constant monitoring and vigilance.

    I wish us all the best of luck and discipline.

    Lesanne said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think


    she

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that?

    Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down for "safety" I might want to
    move it down just a bit further so that I draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one -
    like 164, oh, well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155 should be just a
    rough idea and hovering now would be fine. Up a pound down a pound. I know the rules. I
    occasionally break the rules but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like purchasing
    a Costco Fruitcake today (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one piece I have already eaten. And
    I probably "chawed" half a bag of gummy bears last night and these are not tiny bags.

    Just this part, clipped the rest. I can see myself not ever being "done" just from the terror of
    going the other way. I am going to set my "back to journalin" number at 160, and let it be. I too
    have not been journaling this past week and I am at a new low. I think this just takes daily weigh
    ins, and a willingness to go back on program when the one sixes show, and hanging around here to
    keep the focus. I really have a hard time believing this. I was somewhere yesterday and someone I
    did not know well said something that caused me to say something about being fat 🙂 They looked at
    me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh I forgot. I'm not.

  18. Brenda me too, my feet are Always cold.! And it is not a cold climate here,
    as I am sure I have mentioned ..
    "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc. Now I'm wearing
    sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the


    time!

    Quoted message said:

    I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we don't feel the cold so much?
    --
    Brenda
    209/174/150 NYNY goal 160

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one aspect of being thinner - I
    am running colder. I probably should rev up the metabolism by doing weights for the upper body.

    Brenda Hammond said:

    Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is getting bigger, soon
    you'll be able to really bundle up when at


    meetings.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Congratulations!!

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > Okay here we go:
    >
    > I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds
    >
    > (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing


    1.6

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier
    > clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!
    >
    > Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)
    >
    > But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue


    (she,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I
    > mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us
    > have discussed then


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so
    > on and so forth and ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no
    > idea (g)
    >
    > (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the


    points

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > (gd&r)
    >
    >
    > Fred
    > 219.2/156.6/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002
    >


  19. Me three! Today I wore long underwear (top and bottom), layered under slacks, sweater, and jacket. I
    was still cold. For the last couple of months, I get cold easily and have a hard time getting warm.
    My feet STAY cold, as do my fingers. A few years ago, I ran a fan in my office. Now I'm running a
    foot warmer and wishing I could type with mittens on. I was starting to think I needed to have my
    thyroid checked. But maybe being cold is a normal effect of weight loss?

    Prairie Roots

    Brenda Hammond said:

    A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc. Now I'm wearing
    sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the time! I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust,
    so that we don't feel the cold so much?

  20. Yesterday we went out to lunch, which we frequently do when babysitting DGD, since then the
    cafeteria she loves has to clean up the mess. My Ma loves fried anything. So do I, but you know how
    often I eat that sort of thing (same as any of us). We bought the lunch special plate of chicken
    fried chicken breast. There is not any skin, but there is a nice crunchy fried whatever all over it.
    I also got a vegetable plate, which has 3 veggies. I got mac and cheese (guess who loves that)
    canned corn (ditto) and green beans. Then when we got to table, I cut the chicken into 3 pieces, put
    about 2 T of mac and cheese, 2 T of corn, all the green beans and a third of the chicken on my
    plate. I really figured I would be up a pound this morning, but still nice ole 157. I think this
    whole thing is about portion control with the high calorie/fat/sugar items, and liberal servings of
    0 point items for satiety and crunch (the chew factor) and this becomes not so hard. Are you also
    finding maintenance not as difficult as it was at first? I am! I hope that lasts!

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    That is well put. I have been UP there now twice. So I know what's possible. But I also know I
    have a lot more tools as far as food consumption. Now, attitude, mood, spirit, whatever might have
    more power behind it then just the tools. So it will need constant monitoring and vigilance.

    I wish us all the best of luck and discipline.

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    >Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you


    think

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    she

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    >meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that?

    Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down for "safety" I might want to
    move it down just a bit further so that I draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one
    - like 164, oh, well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155 should be just a
    rough idea and hovering now would be fine. Up a pound down a pound. I know the rules. I
    occasionally break the rules but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like
    purchasing a Costco Fruitcake today (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one piece I have
    already eaten. And I probably "chawed" half a bag of gummy bears last night and these are not
    tiny bags.

    Just this part, clipped the rest. I can see myself not ever being "done" just from the terror of
    going the other way. I am going to set my "back


    to

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    journalin" number at 160, and let it be. I too have not been journaling this past week and I am
    at a new low. I think this just takes daily


    weigh

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    ins, and a willingness to go back on program when the one sixes show, and hanging around here to
    keep the focus. I really have a hard time


    believing

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    this. I was somewhere yesterday and someone I did not know well said something that caused me to
    say something about being fat 🙂 They looked


    at

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    me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh I forgot. I'm not.

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