ONCE helps the disabled - How cool!



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I had no idea what they did till I went to their site. I figured they were just some business
concern in Spain. Now I will be rooting for them along side Lance.

Go to their site and see, click on te engilsh pull down menu:

http://www.once.es/
 
"Tony Austn" <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote in message
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> I had no idea what they did till I went to their site. I figured they were just some business
> concern in Spain. Now I will be rooting for them along side Lance.
>
> Go to their site and see, click on te engilsh pull down menu:
>
> http://www.once.es/

Did they expand or is it a society for sight impaired people?
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"Nick Burns" <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Did they expand or is it a society for sight impaired people?

I believe the government has contracted out to them to help the visually impaired by way of a lotto.
I am not sure entirely, I am still going throught he site
 
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:10:59 GMT, Tony Austn wrote:
> "Nick Burns" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> is it a society for sight impaired people?
>
> help the visually impaired by way of a lotto.

Please, you can say "blind".
 
Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:10:59 GMT, Tony Austn wrote:
>
>>"Nick Burns" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>is it a society for sight impaired people?
>>
>>help the visually impaired by way of a lotto.
>
>
> Please, you can say "blind".

visualy impaired does not equal blind.

--Jay, who bought his first pair of reading glasses yesterday
 
Ewoud Dronkert <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:10:59 GMT, Tony Austn wrote:
> > "Nick Burns" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> is it a society for sight impaired people?
> >
> > help the visually impaired by way of a lotto.
>
> Please, you can say "blind".

All you have to do is go to a place like Bilbao and you'll spot Once kiosks all over the place
(about every other block in the center) and you'll see some blind guy/gal selling lottery tickets
from an once booth.

So some make money that way, and the proceeds go to the rest. i know a guy who's an artist, is
'legally blind' (coke bottle glasses, but he can see more or less) and he's gotten a fair amount of
support from Once for his work. I call him 'Once Richie'.
 
Tony Austn wrote:
> I had no idea what they did till I went to their site. I figured they were just some business
> concern in Spain. Now I will be rooting for them along side Lance.
>
> Go to their site and see, click on te engilsh pull down menu:
>
> http://www.once.es/

Already been there - ONCE seen, never forgotten.
--
John Dean Oxford De-frag to reply
 
In news:[email protected], Tony Austn typed:

> > Did they expand or is it a society for sight impaired people?
>
> I believe the government has contracted out to them to help the visually impaired by way of a
> lotto. I am not sure entirely, I am still going throught he site

So why are they spending their money on professional cyclists rather than blind people?

Peter Smyth
 
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:53:39 -0500, Jay Hill wrote:
> visualy impaired does not equal blind.

OK. But whatever the current mission, the name of the organisation specifically states 'the
blind' (ciegos).
 
Ewoud Dronkert <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:53:39 -0500, Jay Hill wrote:
>> visualy impaired does not equal blind.

Does it equal ugly?

> OK. But whatever the current mission, the name of the organisation specifically states 'the blind'
> (ciegos).

The role of the ONCE

To rehabilitate and educate blind people from birth, or from the moment they lose their sight, and
integrate them fully in society. This sums up the mission of the ONCE.

However, underlying these basic premises there unfolds a complex social protection system developed
over more than sixty years. This system has been continuously adapted as new needs have arisen and
has proved capable of making the best possible use of economic synergies.

Rehabilitation means achieving that blind people are no longer dependent, that they can reach full
independence, both personally and socially speaking.

Education, for the ONCE, means training at every level, from childhood right through to university
or vocational training courses, supporting our blind students at every step with qualified personnel
and specialised facilities.

Integration is achieved through finding work for all blind people, thus providing them with economic
independence; facilitating access to culture and information, essential elements for their personal
and social development; and providing them with leisure possibilities, as well as special assistance
for those situations that are also special.

How the ONCE tackles these obligations to its over 63,000 members is outlined in this web site,
which also offers information on the ONCE's solidarity with other disabled groups and, even, with
other blind organisations in less fortunate countries.

This is because the ONCE also looks outward, whether it be from a solidarity viewpoint or with
regard to its close cooperation relationships. The latter is the case with the blind organisations
in Europe, where the traditional links are now, if possible, even stronger within the framework of
the European Community, with the concerted support of the institutions to the ongoing processes
striving for the integration of disabled persons and the declaration of the year 2003 as European
Disability Year.

What follows is therefore a description of our role, truly impossible to fulfil without the economic
support provided by our lottery, the cupón.

Through the ONCE cupón, a popular, deep-rooted tradition now in Spain, the Institution receives the
full backing of Spanish society, which demonstrates its affection and profound understanding of our
role - the role of the ONCE.

http://www.once.es/vocacion/webenglish/default.htm
 
"Tony Austn" <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote in message
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> I had no idea what they did till I went to their site. I figured they were just some business
> concern in Spain. Now I will be rooting for them along side Lance.
>
> Go to their site and see, click on te engilsh pull down menu:
>
> http://www.once.es/

Maybe the stick figure with the cane on their jerseys should have been a clue?

http://www.cyclingpictures.de/images/Zuerich2002WEB/4-team-once-eroski.jpg

-T
 
"Peter Smyth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In news:[email protected], Tony Austn typed:
>
> > > Did they expand or is it a society for sight impaired people?
> >
> > I believe the government has contracted out to them to help the visually impaired by way of a
> > lotto. I am not sure entirely, I am still going throught he site
>
> So why are they spending their money on professional cyclists rather than blind people?
>
> Peter Smyth

One word

Publicity.

Plus I would suppose that some percentage of the money their cyclists win in races goes into
their cause.

As a visually impaired person myself (no peripheral vision), I think it's wonderful.

Joe
 
"Peter Smyth" <[email protected]> wrote
> So why are they spending their money on professional cyclists rather than blind people?

There are many blind people in the direction committee. (so "they are helping the visually impaired"
sounded a bit paternalistic to
me)

These blind people happen to be BIKE RACING FANS. A concept not easily understood by Americans I
have come to understand. But it plays a role in the choice.

INTEGRATION is a key factor to them. They do make money and are profitable, and in sponsoring they
show that they can give something back to society beyond their target group (which gets really
well served)
 
Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:10:59 GMT, Tony Austn wrote:
>
>>"Nick Burns" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>is it a society for sight impaired people?
>>
>>help the visually impaired by way of a lotto.
>
>
> Please, you can say "blind".

Yeah, it's not like they're going to read it here or anything.

OK, OK, I know I'm going straight to hell...

&roo
 
"Andrew Swan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:CRaRa.484
> Yeah, it's not like they're going to read it here or anything.

One of the cool things about usenet is that it is plain text, which screenreaders can read and
visually impaired people can use.

JT

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"smiles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > One of the cool things about usenet is that it is plain text, which screenreaders can read and
> > visually impaired people can use.
>
> Don't you mean "mentally" and not "visually"???

I don't think so. There are programs, manufactured by a company called Kurzweil, that will literally
read out loud plain text on the internet. Usenet newsgroups being in plain text those programs can
read them for the visually impaired.

People who are blind use such programs; they are VISUALLY, not MENTALLY impaired.

As someone who has a substantially reduced visual field myself, i had to weigh in on this.

Regards,

Joe

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> s http://boardnbike.com New location opening in Snellville
 
"Joe Hurley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Don't you mean "mentally" and not "visually"???
>
> People who are blind use such programs; they are VISUALLY, not MENTALLY impaired.

I understand ... and am aware of the technology ... was just making fun of the idiots who use and
have used usenet.

s http://boardnbike.com New location opening in Snellville
 
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> In news:[email protected], Tony Austn typed:
>
> > > Did they expand or is it a society for sight impaired people?
> >
> > I believe the government has contracted out to them to help the visually impaired by way of a
> > lotto. I am not sure entirely, I am still going throught he site
>
> So why are they spending their money on professional cyclists rather than blind people?
>
> Peter Smyth

Why single out ONCE for this question, i.e., why is USPS spending money on professional cyclists
rather than ways of delivering mail faster? Why is CSC spending money on professional cyclists
rather than hiring more consultants for systems integration? Etc, etc...
 
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