"Ambrose Nankivell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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sothach said:
Ambrose Nankivell wrote: > I understand that speed limits aren't applied to bikes. How is this > of interest to uk.rec.cycling?
Because motorists travelling at inappropriate speeds are killing us?
Speedophiles posting at innappropriate frequency and agression are disturbing us in the online world, though.
Speak for yourself, they're not disturbing me and anyway you don't have to read their posts.
Could we please agree some code word to put in the subject line of speed-limit threads so that the people who aren't interested can killfile them?
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"People are too used to being scolded by warning signs telling them about lethal speed and driving. It's like 'tell me something new'. But they're not used to having their wit engaged,"
"There's an element of fun and mischief, but underneath is the ambition to encourage people to re-examine how roads are used,"
"It's this sense of entitlement that he says he wants to challenge - leaving a 4x4 blocking half the street is called parking but a couple of chairs and a magazine rack put in the same place is seen as a senseless provocation. "
Maybe that's because a 4x4 can be legally parked on a road, whereas a few chairs and a magazine rack could be seen to be Fly-Tipping and illegal.
Nope. Actually neither a 4x4 nor any other vehicle can legally be parked on the public highway. Parking any vehicle on any highway is obstructing the highway and is a crime. Next?
-- Alan J. Wylie http://www.wylie.me.uk/ "Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but rather when there is nothing left to take away." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Seems to be a bit of *carping* going on in this thread. People should learn to keep a sense of *scale* and *propoise-tion*, otherwise they could end up *netting* more than they bargained for.
There's always salmon who has to start on the puns, isn't there?
A man goes in to a fishmonger with a salmon under his arm and asks "Do you make fish cakes?" The fishmonger replies "No, sorry." "A pity" says the man "It's his birthday tomorrow" -- the.Mark
"People are too used to being scolded by warning signs telling them about lethal speed and driving. It's like 'tell me something new'. But they're not used to having their wit engaged,"
"There's an element of fun and mischief, but underneath is the ambition to encourage people to re-examine how roads are used,"
"It's this sense of entitlement that he says he wants to challenge - leaving a 4x4 blocking half the street is called parking but a couple of chairs and a magazine rack put in the same place is seen as a senseless provocation. "
Maybe that's because a 4x4 can be legally parked on a road, whereas a few chairs and a magazine rack could be seen to be Fly-Tipping and illegal.
"People are too used to being scolded by warning signs telling them about lethal speed and driving. It's like 'tell me something new'. But they're not used to having their wit engaged,"
"There's an element of fun and mischief, but underneath is the ambition to encourage people to re-examine how roads are used,"
"It's this sense of entitlement that he says he wants to challenge - leaving a 4x4 blocking half the street is called parking but a couple of chairs and a magazine rack put in the same place is seen as a senseless provocation. "
Maybe that's because a 4x4 can be legally parked on a road, whereas a few chairs and a magazine rack could be seen to be Fly-Tipping and illegal.
Nope. Actually neither a 4x4 nor any other vehicle can legally be parked on the public highway. Parking any vehicle on any highway is obstructing the highway and is a crime. Next?
While it stresses a preference for off-street parking, which I agree with, it does NOT say that parking on the road is an offence. If it were an offence, the HC wouldn't, presumably, give suggestions and directions on how and where to park on the road.
"Ambrose Nankivell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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sothach wrote: > Ambrose Nankivell wrote: >> I understand that speed limits aren't applied to bikes. How is this >> of interest to uk.rec.cycling? > > Because motorists travelling at inappropriate speeds are killing us?
Speedophiles posting at innappropriate frequency and agression are disturbing us in the online world, though.
Speak for yourself, they're not disturbing me and anyway you don't have to read their posts.
Could we please agree some code word to put in the subject line of speed-limit threads so that the people who aren't interested can killfile them?
Wasn't a subject line with the words 'speed limit' in it enough to give you a clue?
Could you put that in whiting, I'm a bit hard of herring ;-)
Arggh, someone lays a bait for their chum and you swallow it hook, line and sinker. Time to get out on teh bike, I'm feeling a bit chubby. Better watch the ice - don't want to fall eel this close to christmas. (Floundering for a few more puns here, better stop before you all get too crabby).
Could you put that in whiting, I'm a bit hard of herring ;-)
Arggh, someone lays a bait for their chum and you swallow it hook, line and sinker. Time to get out on teh bike, I'm feeling a bit chubby. Better watch the ice -
"John Hearns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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David Martin said:
Tony Raven said:
wafflycat wrote: > > Oh I've never haddock-nuff of bad puns ;-) > > Could you put that in whiting, I'm a bit hard of herring ;-)
Arggh, someone lays a bait for their chum and you swallow it hook, line and sinker. Time to get out on teh bike, I'm feeling a bit chubby. Better watch the ice -
Get your skates on then.
Do I see a ray of light that this thread is coming to an end. Shall we do a dance of celebration? Shall we conger?
Matt B came up with the following;: > Surely not another solution which is _better_ than speed cameras ;-) > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4459056.stm > > "People are too used to being scolded by warning signs telling them > about lethal speed and driving. It's like 'tell me something new'. > But they're not used to having their wit engaged," > > "There's an element of fun and mischief, but underneath is the > ambition to encourage people to re-examine how roads are used,"
"It's this sense of entitlement that he says he wants to challenge - leaving a 4x4 blocking half the street is called parking but a couple of chairs and a magazine rack put in the same place is seen as a senseless provocation. "
Maybe that's because a 4x4 can be legally parked on a road, whereas a few chairs and a magazine rack could be seen to be Fly-Tipping and illegal.
Nope. Actually neither a 4x4 nor any other vehicle can legally be parked on the public highway. Parking any vehicle on any highway is obstructing the highway and is a crime. Next?
While it stresses a preference for off-street parking, which I agree with, it does NOT say that parking on the road is an offence. If it were an offence, the HC wouldn't, presumably, give suggestions and directions on how and where to park on the road.
The highway code is not the legislation. The Highways Act itself makes it an offence to leave /anything/ - no exceptions at all, unless specifically and individually permitted by the relevant local authority, signed and coned - on the highway.
Any parking on the public road is /always/ illegal.
Any parking on the public road is /always/ illegal.
Does that mean we can get local authorities who introduce Residents' Parking Schemes done for conspiracy?
-- Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/> We had that Maurits C. Escher in to do some building work once. I haven't been able to leave the house since.
Any parking on the public road is /always/ illegal.
Does that mean we can get local authorities who introduce Residents' Parking Schemes done for conspiracy?
No. Such bays are not then the highway. This raises interesting points where the highway in question is over land not owned by the public but by the property owners either side. This is acquired for use as a highway, ie passing and repassing. Parking on this land would not fall under the 'passing and repassing' so could be construed as trespass. It would also not be permissible for the LA to designate that property for any other purpose. So technically, if the ground belongs to you, and the LA allow parking, you may have a case for reclaiming that portion of the road for your own purpose... Time for a sofa in the road?
Any parking on the public road is /always/ illegal.
Does that mean we can get local authorities who introduce Residents' Parking Schemes done for conspiracy?
No. Such bays are not then the highway. This raises interesting points where the highway in question is over land not owned by the public but by the property owners either side. This is acquired for use as a highway, ie passing and repassing. Parking on this land would not fall under the 'passing and repassing' so could be construed as trespass. It would also not be permissible for the LA to designate that property for any other purpose. So technically, if the ground belongs to you, and the LA allow parking, you may have a case for reclaiming that portion of the road for your own purpose... Time for a sofa in the road?
Round my way the Residents' Parking wossnames aren't in any kind of bays, though, it's just at the kerbside. The only thing that marks out the areas where a parking permit is required are the signs saying that a permit is required. During the day, when they are usually not full of parked cars, they are otherwise indistinguishable from any other "normal" road.
Round my way the Residents' Parking wossnames aren't in any kind of bays, though, it's just at the kerbside. The only thing that marks out the areas where a parking permit is required are the signs saying that a permit is required. During the day, when they are usually not full of parked cars, they are otherwise indistinguishable from any other "normal" road.
The road is probably in public ownership or someone has managed to keep a lid on the can of worms.
