[OT] Oh No! Got Broadband....



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Succorso

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.... I may never go out on the bike again - being online is no longer a
miserable experience.

I think we set an exchange record in Swaffham - 8.5km from the exchange,
perfect 512/256 connection :)

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>I think we set an exchange record in Swaffham - 8.5km from the exchange,
>perfect 512/256 connection :)


BAH! I am jealous :-(

Cheers, helen s
(Wendling still in the stome age...)

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:

>>I think we set an exchange record in Swaffham - 8.5km from the exchange,
>>perfect 512/256 connection :)

>
> BAH! I am jealous :-(
>
> Cheers, helen s
> (Wendling still in the stome age...)


That's because the electrons need a good downhill run to reach the
exchange.

<cough>

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to condemn Chile and all Chileans to utmost deprivation and poverty."
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Keith Willoughby [email protected] opined the following...
> That's because the electrons need a good downhill run to reach the
> exchange.


Have you tried straightening out the bends in your phone cables to make
it easier for the ones to make it through? Shallow curves are best as
the ones are less likely to get stuck in these.

Jon
 
Jon Senior wrote:
> Keith Willoughby [email protected] opined the following...
>> That's because the electrons need a good downhill run to
>> reach the exchange.

>
> Have you tried straightening out the bends in your phone
> cables to make it easier for the ones to make it through?
> Shallow curves are best as the ones are less likely to get
> stuck in these.
>
> Jon


That sounds about right. I lost my connection when someone closed the door
on my phone cable.
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In message <[email protected]>, Jon Senior
<jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk@?.?.invalid> writes
>Keith Willoughby [email protected] opined the following...
>> That's because the electrons need a good downhill run to reach the
>> exchange.

>
>Have you tried straightening out the bends in your phone cables to make
>it easier for the ones to make it through? Shallow curves are best as
>the ones are less likely to get stuck in these.
>

Silly boy - the ones can go endways can't they? It's the noughts that
get stuck because the wire's narrower where it's bent.

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Sue White [email protected]lid opined the following...
> Silly boy - the ones can go endways can't they? It's the noughts that
> get stuck because the wire's narrower where it's bent.


Nah, the zeros (being rounded) are less likely to get stuck, where as
some ones will wedge in place.

Pah... some people... they'll believe anything!

Jon
 
Been through it all -

9.6 Kb/s modem - very, very, very sloooooooooow, but got there - eventually

28 Kb/s modem - very slooooow

Upgraded to 33 Kb/s modem - sloooow

Next 64 Kb/s ISDN - better, with almost instant connection

512 Kb/s ADSL - nice - never looked back

1 Mb/s ADSL - on order and expected any day. Can't wait.

The faster the connection, the less time in front of the PC, just waiting.
That means more time for the bike?


"the.Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jon Senior wrote:
>> Keith Willoughby [email protected] opined the following...
>>> That's because the electrons need a good downhill run to
>>> reach the exchange.

>>
>> Have you tried straightening out the bends in your phone
>> cables to make it easier for the ones to make it through?
>> Shallow curves are best as the ones are less likely to get
>> stuck in these.
>>
>> Jon

>
> That sounds about right. I lost my connection when someone closed the door
> on my phone cable.
> --
> Mark
>
> 1x1 wheel, 3x2 wheels & 1x3 wheels.
>
 
Succorso wrote:
> .... I may never go out on the bike again - being online is no longer a
> miserable experience.
>
> I think we set an exchange record in Swaffham - 8.5km from the exchange,
> perfect 512/256 connection :)
>


BT extended the range recently to at least 10km from the old 6km
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/18/bt_extended_adsl/

Tony (on 1Mb ADSL)
 
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 21:57:12 +0100, DG <[email protected]> wrote:
> Been through it all -
>
> 9.6 Kb/s modem - very, very, very sloooooooooow, but got there - eventually
> 28 Kb/s modem - very slooooow
> Upgraded to 33 Kb/s modem - sloooow

[snip]

Where is the 1200/75 modem for Prestel et al?
Where is the 300 baud modem?

9.6 Kb/sec was sheer luxury - but you try and tell the young people
today that ...

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Andy Leighton wrote:
>
> Where is the 1200/75 modem for Prestel et al?
> Where is the 300 baud modem?
>
> 9.6 Kb/sec was sheer luxury - but you try and tell the young people
> today that ...
>


I started my on-line life with a Tandy Trash80-100 (software written
personally by Bill Gates) with inbuilt 300baud modem and an acoustic
coupler.

Tony
 
In news:[email protected],
Andy Leighton <[email protected]> typed:
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 21:57:12 +0100, DG <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Been through it all -
>>
>> 9.6 Kb/s modem - very, very, very sloooooooooow, but got there -
>> eventually 28 Kb/s modem - very slooooow
>> Upgraded to 33 Kb/s modem - sloooow

> [snip]
>
> Where is the 1200/75 modem for Prestel et al?
> Where is the 300 baud modem?
>
> 9.6 Kb/sec was sheer luxury - but you try and tell the young people
> today that ...


Do you know how long this 328MB download's going to take at 20KB/s? 4 hours,
I tell you.

We did have Prestel when I were a lad, though. We used it for online
shopping about 4 or 5 times. Quite exciting.

I had a 9.6K modem with AOL 2.5. It was by far the cheapest way to get
internet connectivity at home back in 1996 at £4 a month plus per minute
charges plus phone call.

Those were the days...

A
 
Tony Raven wrote:
> Succorso wrote:
>
>> .... I may never go out on the bike again - being online is no longer
>> a miserable experience.
>>
>> I think we set an exchange record in Swaffham - 8.5km from the
>> exchange, perfect 512/256 connection :)
>>

>
> BT extended the range recently to at least 10km from the old 6km
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/18/bt_extended_adsl/
>
> Tony (on 1Mb ADSL)
>
>


In which case, Wendling might be in range after all... are you <= 10Km
from Dereham Helen?

--
Chris
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Andy Leighton <[email protected]> writes:

> Where is the 1200/75 modem for Prestel et al?
> Where is the 300 baud modem?


Hmmm. Seemed perfectly good in 1987. It was certainly a step up from
the earlier teletype-thingey. Anything faster was seriously expensive.
Mind you, arcterm, procomm or kermit were less inefficient than PPP.

> 9.6 Kb/sec was sheer luxury - but you try and tell the young people
> today that ...


Gotta 9.6k fax card about 1990. But 'net connectivity at that speed was
still far too expensive. Fortunately by returning to academia I got that
through work.

By the mid-90s, we had a 2Mb connection to the national backbone.
But in practice, 100 bytes per second was *fast*.

--
Nick Kew
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Sue White <[email protected]> writes:

>>Have you tried straightening out the bends in your phone cables to make
>>it easier for the ones to make it through? Shallow curves are best as
>>the ones are less likely to get stuck in these.
>>

> Silly boy - the ones can go endways can't they? It's the noughts that
> get stuck because the wire's narrower where it's bent.


Now now. Children, do stop bickering!

We use 32-bits these days. It's the FFFFs that are the real problem -
far too noisy. Except in Opera, of course.

--
Nick Kew
 
Nick Kew wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Andy Leighton <[email protected]> writes:
>
>
>>Where is the 1200/75 modem for Prestel et al?
>>Where is the 300 baud modem?

>
>
> Hmmm. Seemed perfectly good in 1987.


As Bill Gates said "680k (memory) should be enough for anyone"

Tony
 
"Ambrose Nankivell" <[email protected]> writes:

>In news:[email protected],
>Andy Leighton <[email protected]> typed:
>> On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 21:57:12 +0100, DG <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Been through it all -


>>> 9.6 Kb/s modem - very, very, very sloooooooooow, but got there -
>>> eventually 28 Kb/s modem - very slooooow
>>> Upgraded to 33 Kb/s modem - sloooow


>> Where is the 1200/75 modem for Prestel et al?
>> Where is the 300 baud modem?


>> 9.6 Kb/sec was sheer luxury - but you try and tell the young people
>> today that ...


>Do you know how long this 328MB download's going to take at 20KB/s? 4 hours,
>I tell you.


>We did have Prestel when I were a lad, though. We used it for online
>shopping about 4 or 5 times. Quite exciting.


>I had a 9.6K modem with AOL 2.5. It was by far the cheapest way to get
>internet connectivity at home back in 1996 at #4 a month plus per minute
>charges plus phone call.


>Those were the days...


It's like roads. Built more of them and more people spend more time
faffing about on them. Why do we need so much computer comms speed?
Largely to carry spam, ****, advertising animations, absurdly otiose
text graphics because the maketing dept didn't think the available
fonts quite carried the commercial message with enough oomph, viruses,
trojans, spambots, and Microsh**t software "updates".

According to my local cable engineer, almost all the bandwidth on my
own local cable connection consists of viruses vainly hammering on the
doors of my firewall. He says the biggest speed improvement broadband
has brought is that your computer can now become infected in several
seconds, e.g., the several seconds between your rebooted computer
connecting to the cable modem, and your security programs loading up
and closing the doors.

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>In which case, Wendling might be in range after all... are you <= 10Km
>from Dereham Helen?


Wendling has no Broadband - we've been trying for *ages*, but the Wendling
exchange is tiny.

Cheers, helen s


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In article <[email protected]>,
Jon Senior <jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> writes:
>> As Bill Gates said "680k (memory) should be enough for anyone"

>
> Please... 640K! God forbid that anyone should be allowed that extra 40K.


To be fair, he wasn't the only one around that time. When I bought my
Archimedes in 1987, I expressed reservations about a machine that couldn't
ever be expanded beyond 4Mb RAM.

What did I mean "limitations" - why should I want more than a massive 4Mb?

--
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