OT Stoopid Drivers

Tom Crispin wrote on 28/04/2007 19:11 +0100:

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And Oh what joy and
poetic justice as a perfectly healthy (physically at least) man
emerged from the deformed vehicle.

It's a common misconception that a disabled person has to show physical
signs to be disabled (and be too poor to own a relatively expensive
car). He may or may not have been disabled but it is a shame the mob
made their usual presumptions.

--
Tony

"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
is no good evidence either way."
- Bertrand Russell

Tony Raven said:

It's a common misconception that a disabled person has to show physical
signs to be disabled (and be too poor to own a relatively expensive
car). He may or may not have been disabled but it is a shame the mob
made their usual presumptions.

Indeed. But this git deserved all he got.

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 20:29:16 +0100, John Hearns <[email hidden]>

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Tony Raven said:

It's a common misconception that a disabled person has to show physical
signs to be disabled (and be too poor to own a relatively expensive
car). He may or may not have been disabled but it is a shame the mob
made their usual presumptions.

Indeed. But this git deserved all he got.

Sorry, but how can you know?

It would be nice to think it was an able bodied person snaffling a
disabled bay but as Tony points out, you just can't tell.

If he had, for example, heart failure, he would look fine until he
exerted himself enough to bring on symptoms.

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Tony Raven said:

It's a common misconception that a disabled person has to show physical
signs to be disabled (and be too poor to own a relatively expensive car).
He may or may not have been disabled but it is a shame the mob made their
usual presumptions.

Indeed. But this git deserved all he got.

Why?

John Hearns wrote on 28/04/2007 20:29 +0100:

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Tony Raven said:

It's a common misconception that a disabled person has to show
physical signs to be disabled (and be too poor to own a relatively
expensive car). He may or may not have been disabled but it is a
shame the mob made their usual presumptions.

Indeed. But this git deserved all he got.

What did he deserve and why?

--
Tony

"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
is no good evidence either way."
- Bertrand Russell

"Tom Crispin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I drove to Ikea today to buy a bed frame.

I believe threy can be strange sizes from Ikea.

Jc

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:37:32 GMT, [email hidden] (Ziggy)

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On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 20:29:16 +0100, John Hearns <[email hidden]>

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Tony Raven said:

It's a common misconception that a disabled person has to show physical
signs to be disabled (and be too poor to own a relatively expensive
car). He may or may not have been disabled but it is a shame the mob
made their usual presumptions.

Indeed. But this git deserved all he got.

Sorry, but how can you know?

It would be nice to think it was an able bodied person snaffling a
disabled bay but as Tony points out, you just can't tell.

If he had, for example, heart failure, he would look fine until he
exerted himself enough to bring on symptoms.

After loading my bed into my car I did amble over to the Mazda to see
the damage and look for a blue badge. There was none, but the damage
was there.

Tony Raven said:

John Hearns wrote on 28/04/2007 20:29 +0100:

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Tony Raven said:

It's a common misconception that a disabled person has to show
physical signs to be disabled (and be too poor to own a relatively
expensive car). He may or may not have been disabled but it is a
shame the mob made their usual presumptions.

Indeed. But this git deserved all he got.

What did he deserve and why?

He deserved to be laughed at for a particularly stupid prang. OK, it
wouldn't be so funny if it was a kid on a bike he drove into, but the
fact that it was a bollard and that no one was hurt meant that it was
amusing. And rough justice that he did it while parking in a bay
reserved for people with particular needs.

Tony Raven said:

Tom Crispin wrote on 28/04/2007 19:11 +0100:

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And Oh what joy and
poetic justice as a perfectly healthy (physically at least) man
emerged from the deformed vehicle.

It's a common misconception that a disabled person has to show physical
signs to be disabled (and be too poor to own a relatively expensive
car). He may or may not have been disabled but it is a shame the mob
made their usual presumptions.

Making fun of someone's crass inability to drive is, in my book, fair game.

On my way home on Friday, I was overtaken by an RX8 with the driver
hooting and gesticulating. 100 yards later, it joined a long traffic
jam for the lights.

I rode past the jam, and the lights were Green when I arrived at the
junction.

Some phases of the lights, and about a mile and a half later, the same
car overtook again, the driver still hooting and gesticulating.

Is a year old RX8 worth more than my 11 year old Dawes Sterling?

Josey' jc@nospam said:

"Tom Crispin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I drove to Ikea today to buy a bed frame.

I believe threy can be strange sizes from Ikea.

Fortunately I bought my matress for Ikea also - 20 years ago. The new
bed frame and the old matress are the same strange size.

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Is a year old RX8 worth more than my 11 year old Dawes Sterling?

Given a choice, I'd take the car.

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Josey' jc@nospam said:

"Tom Crispin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I drove to Ikea today to buy a bed frame.

I believe threy can be strange sizes from Ikea.

Fortunately I bought my matress for Ikea also - 20 years ago. The new
bed frame and the old matress are the same strange size.

Time for a new mattress?

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:10:19 +0100, "vernon" <[email hidden]>

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Josey' jc@nospam said:

"Tom Crispin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

> I drove to Ikea today to buy a bed frame.

I believe threy can be strange sizes from Ikea.

Fortunately I bought my matress for Ikea also - 20 years ago. The new
bed frame and the old matress are the same strange size.

Time for a new mattress?

What would I do with the old one?

http://www.streetmattress.com/sm.php

Ziggy said:

Sorry, but how can you know?

I don't. But do you think the 20-something young guy I saw in Newcastle
(Grainger Town) parking his BWW on a double yellow line on Thursday
evening was disabled? I think not.
Bought the Blue Badge in a dodgy pub I think.
Doubly cheeky, as Blue Badges do not give you any rights to park on a
double yellow anyway.

vernon said:

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Indeed. But this git deserved all he got.

Why?

Because he is a selfish git who tried to take a space closer to a shop
to save his fat, lardy self a few extra yards walking.

John Hearns wrote on 28/04/2007 23:32 +0100:

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vernon said:

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Indeed. But this git deserved all he got.

Why?

Because he is a selfish git who tried to take a space closer to a shop
to save his fat, lardy self a few extra yards walking.

And you know that for a fact do you? Those with physical disabilities
suffer enough from discrimination but the disabled without visible
disabilities face an additional tier of prejudice. I don't know whether
this guy was disabled or not but the automatic assumption that because
he has a nice car and doesn't walk with a limp and a stick that he must
be a fraud is just pure prejudice.

--
Tony

"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
is no good evidence either way."
- Bertrand Russell

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:32:48 +0100, John Hearns <[email hidden]>

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vernon said:

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Indeed. But this git deserved all he got.

Why?

Because he is a selfish git who tried to take a space closer to a shop
to save his fat, lardy self a few extra yards walking.

Ahem....

I am fatter than he - by a good few inches I reckon. And I'd parked
closer to the shop - albeit the exit - to save my fat lardy [censored] a few
extra yards walking with heavy shopping. The difference being I
wasn't in a disabled bay. There were plenty of normal bays available
close to the shop anyway, so it is still a mystery why he chose to
park on a bollar^d^d^disabled bay.

Tony Raven said:

John Hearns wrote on 28/04/2007 23:32 +0100:

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vernon said:

> Indeed. But this git deserved all he got.

Why?

Because he is a selfish git who tried to take a space closer to a shop
to save his fat, lardy self a few extra yards walking.

And you know that for a fact do you? Those with physical disabilities
suffer enough from discrimination but the disabled without visible
disabilities face an additional tier of prejudice. I don't know whether
this guy was disabled or not but the automatic assumption that because
he has a nice car and doesn't walk with a limp and a stick that he must
be a fraud is just pure prejudice.

Add to that the fact that there was no visible disabled badge, the
facts are compelling.

Anyway, disabled or otherwise, there was no excuse for the stupidity
of driving into a bollard. On the two occaisions I've done similar,
there was no excuse either. I accepted the ridicule gracefully.

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:31:03 +0100, John Hearns <[email hidden]>

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Ziggy said:

Sorry, but how can you know?

I don't. But do you think the 20-something young guy I saw in Newcastle
(Grainger Town) parking his BWW on a double yellow line on Thursday
evening was disabled? I think not.
Bought the Blue Badge in a dodgy pub I think.
Doubly cheeky, as Blue Badges do not give you any rights to park on a
double yellow anyway.

Actshually, a Blue Badge /does/ give that right.