Pant Question

SniffinVinyl said:

I am getting back to my MTB after a few years away from
the sport. Old shorts have expired elastics, so I need
new ones.

Looking thru bike store, they have all these baggy
shorts with spandex inner liners. They said they also
have the regular spandex pants but they have kind of
gone out of style.

This makes no sense to me, I have ridden before with
shorts over my regular riding pants and it has driven
my crazy. To me, spandex riding pants seem to make the
most sense.

Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't care
about all the little pockets, I have a camelback).

Thanks,

Sniffinvinyl
----------------
Remain sane, cycle your brains out . . .

It's a matter of taste, comfort, and being "in". I have both
the fox "freeride" shorts and voler spandex "roadie" shorts.
I find that on the long hauls, the freeride shorts tend to
irritate my legs from the constant rubbing (no, I don't and
will not shave my hairy legs). The standard spandex are much
more comfortable on lengthy rides although I am finding that
I now have to use bib shorts because they keep falling
down.. The spandex might also be cooler when it's hot out
since they will breathe out the sweat.

o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o www.schnauzers.ws

Quoted message said:

Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't care
about all the little pockets, I have a camelback).

serveral.

if you snag lycra on a twig and it rips, well... you have
have an exposure situation. Baggies are more abrasion
resistant, plus you have the liner underneath. The nylon
fabric of baggies will also slide a little more, less likely
to snag and tear, unless you catch a pocket or something.

Penny

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Quoted message said:

SniffinVinyl said:

I am getting back to my MTB after a few years away from
the sport. Old shorts have expired elastics, so I need
new ones.

Looking thru bike store, they have all these baggy
shorts with spandex inner liners. They said they also
have the regular spandex pants but they have kind of
gone out of style.

This makes no sense to me, I have ridden before with
shorts over my regular riding pants and it has driven my
crazy. To me, spandex riding pants seem to make the most
sense.

Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't care
about all the little pockets, I have a camelback).

<snip>.

Quoted message said:

It's a matter of taste, comfort, and being "in". I have
both the fox "freeride" shorts and voler spandex "roadie"
shorts. I find that on the long hauls, the freeride
shorts tend to irritate my legs from the constant rubbing
(no, I don't and will not shave my hairy legs). The
standard spandex are much more comfortable on lengthy
rides although I am finding that I now have to use bib
shorts because they keep falling down.. The spandex might
also be cooler when it's hot out since they will breathe
out the sweat.

Thanks, being an old fart at 46, I could care less about
being 'in'. The rubbing of the baggy short is the very thing
I would be concerned about. I think I'm staying with the
roadie variety.

Sniffinvinyl
----------------
Remain sane, cycle your brains out . . .

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't care
about all the little pockets, I have a camelback).

serveral.

if you snag lycra on a twig and it rips, well... you have
have an exposure situation. Baggies are more abrasion
resistant, plus you have the liner underneath. The nylon
fabric of baggies will also slide a little more,

less

Quoted message said:

likely to snag and tear, unless you catch a pocket or
something.

Penny

Good point, I have had a couple of rips before. Should have
thought of that.

Thanks

Sniffinvinyl
----------------
Remain sane, cycle your brains out . . .

Penny S said:

Quoted message said:

Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't care
about all the little pockets, I have a camelback).

serveral.

if you snag lycra on a twig and it rips, well... you have
have an exposure situation. Baggies are more abrasion
resistant, plus you have the liner underneath. The nylon
fabric of baggies will also slide a little more, less
likely to snag and tear, unless you catch a pocket or
something.

Penny

plus having pockets can be handy as well, not only for
bringing things along but also great for picking up bits of
bike and gel wrappers that some folks leave behind.

Penny S said:

Quoted message said:

Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't care
about all the little pockets, I have a camelback).

serveral.

if you snag lycra on a twig and it rips, well... you have
have an exposure situation. Baggies are more abrasion
resistant, plus you have the liner underneath. The nylon
fabric of baggies will also slide a little more, less
likely to snag and tear, unless you catch a pocket or
something.

Penny

I'm not so sure about that. I snagged my Lycra pretty bad on
twig last weekend. Results were not noticeable on the shorts
but a 4 inch log scar is visible on my hip. Roadie shorts
are kindof made to not rip real easy and also to keep you
from getting real bad road rash when sliding on asphalt.

--
Perre

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Per Elmsäter said:

Penny S said:

Quoted message said:

Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't care
about all the little pockets, I have a camelback).

serveral.

if you snag lycra on a twig and it rips, well... you have
have an exposure situation. Baggies are more abrasion
resistant, plus you have the liner underneath. The nylon
fabric of baggies will also slide a little more, less
likely to snag and tear, unless you catch a pocket or
something.

Penny

I'm not so sure about that. I snagged my Lycra pretty bad
on twig last weekend. Results were not noticeable on the
shorts but a 4 inch log scar is visible on my hip. Roadie
shorts are kindof made to not rip real easy and also to
keep you from getting real bad road rash when sliding on
asphalt.

OK, so I don't know what I"m talking about. I can live
with that.

Penny

Penny S said:

Per Elmsäter said:

Penny S said:

> Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
> style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't
> care about all the little pockets, I have a camelback).
>
serveral.

if you snag lycra on a twig and it rips, well... you
have have an exposure situation. Baggies are more
abrasion resistant, plus you have the liner underneath.
The nylon fabric of baggies will also slide a little
more, less likely to snag and tear, unless you catch a
pocket or something.

Penny

I'm not so sure about that. I snagged my Lycra pretty bad
on twig last weekend. Results were not noticeable on the
shorts but a 4 inch log scar is visible on my hip. Roadie
shorts are kindof made to not rip real easy and also to
keep you from getting real bad road rash when sliding on
asphalt.

OK, so I don't know what I"m talking about. I can live
with that.

Penny

Hey don't take offense now 😉 We're not talking nylon
stockings you know. Serioulsy. I've got three pair of Lycra
shorts that I've treated pretty bad on both asphalt and
offroad. None have the slightest wear or tear. The only
telltale signs on them is that they've been through the
washer hundreds of times maybe.

--
Perre

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Per Elmsäter said:

Penny S said:

Per Elmsäter said:

Penny S wrote:
>> Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
>> style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't
>> care about all the little pockets, I have a
>> camelback).
>>
> serveral.
>
> if you snag lycra on a twig and it rips, well... you
> have have an exposure situation. Baggies are more
> abrasion resistant, plus you have the liner underneath.
> The nylon fabric of baggies will also slide a little
> more, less likely to snag and tear, unless you catch a
> pocket or something.
>
> Penny

I'm not so sure about that. I snagged my Lycra pretty
bad on twig last weekend. Results were not noticeable on
the shorts but a 4 inch log scar is visible on my hip.
Roadie shorts are kindof made to not rip real easy and
also to keep you from getting real bad road rash when
sliding on asphalt.

OK, so I don't know what I"m talking about. I can live
with that.

Penny

Hey don't take offense now 😉 We're not talking nylon
stockings you know. Serioulsy. I've got three pair of
Lycra shorts that I've treated pretty bad on both asphalt
and offroad. None have the slightest wear or tear. The
only telltale signs on them is that they've been through
the washer hundreds of times maybe.

not offended. I have three different weights of lycra
shorts: heavy duty, made of 9 ounce, the same stuff pro foot
ball leggins are made of, that are extremely tought. I have
a one lighter pair, that haven't torn yet, and then I have a
super light wicking lycra suppllex pair that are awesome
because they are so cool to wear when it's really hot.. but
they seem to snag on everything.

as for pantyhose... I wouldn't know what you are talking
about, haven't owned any for years.

Penny

SniffinVinyl said:

I am getting back to my MTB after a few years away from
the sport. Old shorts have expired elastics, so I need
new ones.

Looking thru bike store, they have all these baggy
shorts with spandex inner liners. They said they also
have the regular spandex pants but they have kind of
gone out of style.

This makes no sense to me, I have ridden before with
shorts over my regular riding pants and it has driven
my crazy. To me, spandex riding pants seem to make the
most sense.

Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't care
about all the little pockets, I have a camelback).

Thanks,

Sniffinvinyl
----------------
Remain sane, cycle your brains out . . .

I've got two pairs of baggies and a half dozen "regular"
sets of shorts. I've tried like hell to like the baggies,
but they remain in the bottom of the drawer. I find them
to be hotter, and snag the seat easier when shifting
weight back and force over the saddle. With pockets on
jersey and camelback, I don't feel the need to have them
on my pants either.

I've got two pairs of old Pearl Izumi shorts I bought 5-6
years ago that won't quit. The great part about them is that
they are a blend of poly-cotton with about 10% spandex. They
look and wear just like normal material, but they're much
softer and breath better. They wick pretty well, but do show
the occasional sweat mark in humid weather. I think they may
snag a bit easier than regular spandex, but they otherwisw
perform just the same. Unfortunately they don't appear to
have caught on. I haven't been able to find them since.

True, lycra isn't the look for everyone. But this is a
mountain bike group. Fashion is for roadies and "Queer Eye"
afficionados.

Tom (not that there's anything wrong with that!)

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Fashion is for roadies and "Queer Eye" afficionados.

bwahahahaha..snort!!

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SniffinVinyl said:

I am getting back to my MTB after a few years away
from the sport. Old shorts have expired elastics, so I
need new ones.

Looking thru bike store, they have all these baggy
shorts with spandex inner liners. They said they also
have the regular spandex pants but they have kind of
gone out of style.

This makes no sense to me, I have ridden before with
shorts over my regular riding pants and it has driven
my crazy. To me, spandex riding pants seem to make the
most sense.

Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't
care about all the little pockets, I have a
camelback).

<snip>.

Quoted message said:

It's a matter of taste, comfort, and being "in". I have
both the fox "freeride" shorts and voler spandex
"roadie" shorts. I find that on the long hauls, the
freeride shorts tend to irritate my legs from the

constant

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Quoted message said:

rubbing (no, I don't and will not shave my hairy legs).
The standard spandex are much more comfortable on
lengthy rides although I am finding that I now have to
use bib shorts because they keep falling down.. The
spandex might also be cooler when it's hot out since
they will breathe

out

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Quoted message said:

the sweat.

Thanks, being an old fart at 46, I could care less about
being 'in'. The rubbing of the baggy short is the very
thing I would be concerned about. I think I'm staying with
the roadie variety.

Good choice.

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Per Elmsäter said:

Penny S said:

Per Elmsäter wrote:
> Penny S wrote:
>>> Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
>>> style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't
>>> care about all the little pockets, I have a
>>> camelback).
>>>
>> serveral.
>>
>> if you snag lycra on a twig and it rips, well... you
>> have have an exposure situation. Baggies are more
>> abrasion resistant, plus you have the liner
>> underneath. The nylon fabric of baggies will also
>> slide a little more, less likely to snag and tear,
>> unless you catch a pocket or something.
>>
>> Penny
>
> I'm not so sure about that. I snagged my Lycra pretty
> bad on twig last weekend. Results were not noticeable
> on the shorts but a 4 inch log scar is visible on my
> hip. Roadie shorts are kindof made to not rip real
> easy and also to keep you from getting real bad road
> rash when sliding on asphalt.

OK, so I don't know what I"m talking about. I can live
with that.

Penny

Hey don't take offense now 😉 We're not talking nylon
stockings you know. Serioulsy. I've got three pair of
Lycra shorts that I've treated pretty bad on both
asphalt and offroad. None have the slightest wear or
tear. The only telltale signs on them is that they've
been through the washer hundreds of times maybe.

not offended. I have three different weights of lycra
shorts: heavy duty, made of 9 ounce, the same stuff pro
foot ball leggins are made of, that

are

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extremely tought. I have a one lighter pair, that haven't
torn yet, and then I have a super light wicking lycra
suppllex pair that are awesome because they are so cool to
wear when it's really hot.. but they seem to snag on
everything.

I would use nothing other than lycra/spandex shorts. I don't
want baggy shorts snagging on my saddle.

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as for pantyhose... I wouldn't know what you are talking
about, haven't owned any for years.

I hear ya. I have no clue how to tie a tie.

mojo deluxe said:

I would use nothing other than lycra/spandex shorts. I
don't want baggy shorts snagging on my saddle.

well now, I have my first pair of baggies... some
Cannondales with a built in liner that Tuffgrrl gave me, and
I really like them. They aren't too baggy, just right. And
they don't have elastic at the waist, or open pockets, I
think thats where you'd get into trouble with the snags.

penny

kantspel said:

plus having pockets can be handy as well, not only for
bringing things along but also great for picking up bits
of bike and gel wrappers that some folks leave behind.

And let's not forgot spent condoms and freshly ejected
tampons... or maybe that's just in L.A.
--
Slacker

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mojo deluxe said:

I would use nothing other than lycra/spandex shorts. I
don't want baggy shorts snagging on my saddle.

well now, I have my first pair of baggies... some
Cannondales with a built in liner that Tuffgrrl gave me,
and I really like them. They aren't too baggy, just right.
And they don't have elastic at the waist, or open pockets,
I think thats where you'd get into trouble with the snags.

I will be trying my first pair of bib shorts real soon. I
have to admit, that elastic at the waist can get annoying.

SniffinVinyl said:

I am getting back to my MTB after a few years away from
the sport. Old shorts have expired elastics, so I need
new ones.

Looking thru bike store, they have all these baggy
shorts with spandex inner liners. They said they also
have the regular spandex pants but they have kind of
gone out of style.

This makes no sense to me, I have ridden before with
shorts over my regular riding pants and it has driven
my crazy. To me, spandex riding pants seem to make the
most sense.

Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't care
about all the little pockets, I have a camelback).

The only reason I wear them is so I can put my small camera
in a pocket. It makes it much more available for candid
shots rather than having to get setup for a shot. I can even
grab it and snap shots while riding.

Greg

G.T. said:

SniffinVinyl said:

Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't care
about all the little pockets, I have a camelback).

The only reason I wear them is so I can put my small
camera in a pocket. It makes it much more available for
candid shots rather than having to get setup for a shot. I
can even grab it and snap shots while riding.

Greg

I was thinking about that... I've got a pocket on the
outside of mine that is the perfect size.. do you keep it in
any sort of padded case or just stick in in the pocket? I
was checking out these stretchy neoprene cases the other
day, ww3.onecall.comPID 23511.htmOpen ↗

I'd be a little worried about the camera in pocket getting
whacked against something.

Penny

Penny S said:

G.T. said:

SniffinVinyl said:

Can anyone offer a technical reason (which rules out
style) for going to the baggy variety? (and I don't care
about all the little pockets, I have a camelback).

The only reason I wear them is so I can put my small
camera in a pocket. It makes it much more available for
candid shots rather than having to get setup for a shot. I
can even grab it and snap shots while riding.

Greg

I was thinking about that... I've got a pocket on the
outside of mine that is the perfect size.. do you keep it
in any sort of padded case or just stick in in the pocket?

I just stick it in the pocket. My original Olympus Stylus
from 1991 survived tons of stuff so I'm treating my A70
the same way. I may be too trusting but the A70 feels
pretty solid.

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I was checking out these stretchy neoprene cases the other
day, ww3.onecall.comPID 23511.htmOpen ↗

I'd be a little worried about the camera in pocket getting
whacked against something.

I've ridden with my A70 a handful of times now and dropped
it once. I've already lost the bexel around the lens, it
appears to just be cosmetic, and the door to the compact
flash is kind of discombobulated. The only thing I'm worried
about is the lcd getting too scratched up over time. Even
the pathetic little viewfinder on my Olympus is 20 times
better than the viewfinder on the A70 so the lcd is pretty
important.

Personally I don't want to get a case because I like to be
able to shoot quickly so I can take pictures of someone who
may be close behind without asking them to stop, seconds
count in that scenario. And a lot of my solo photos are
taken while riding, I don't have to stop and get the camera
out of the case.

Greg