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[email protected], Carl Fogel at
[email protected]
wrote on 12/8/03 2:34 AM:
> Jay <
[email protected]> wrote in message news:<BBF94FD2.25129%
[email protected]>...
>>>> I can definitely say that this is the case for me at my local shop. The owner knows I have very
>>>> few bucks to spend- so I very frequently get freebies( cables, a few repairs, etc) and always
>>>> 15-25% off and sometimes more.
>>>>
>>>> Due to some connections, I get the inside honest scoop on some products
>>>
>>> [snip] Carl Fogel at
[email protected] wrote on 12/7/03 9:31 PM: Are you saying that your
>>> local bicycle shop owner gives his other customers something different than the "inside honest
>>> scoop" and charges them more for it?
>>>
>>> Somehow, I doubt that Sheldon Brown, Peter Chisholm, and Andrew Muzi run their shops this way.
>>
>> You snipped the hell out of my posting. Therefore the context is all messed up.
>>
>> What I was conveying is that with *my* connections to designers, manufacturers and cycling
>> organisations- I get the scoop on some info that I pass on to this bike store owner. I was not in
>> any way commenting on this or any other bike store owners' honesty.
>
> Dear Jay,
>
> I apologize.
>
> I read and included your post as far as I quoted you, but failed to pay attention to what
> followed.
>
> I now see that you did not mean that your local bicycle shop gives you "the honest inside scoop"
> (implying that they give something else to other customers), but rather that you give the "honest
> inside scoop" to your local bike shop.
>
> To make sure that my mistake is clear, here's your complete post with a bracketed explanation
> where I failed to follow what you were saying:
>
>> I can definitely say that this is the case for me at my local shop. The owner knows I have very
>> few bucks to spend- so I very frequently get freebies( cables, a few repairs, etc) and always
>> 15-25% off and sometimes more.
>
> [The "connections" that follow are NOT between Jay and his local bicycle shop owner--C.F.]
>
>> Due to some connections, I get the inside honest scoop on some products, and help set up events
>> for various cycling organisations. Last Thursday as I was passing by and business was slow- gave
>> him the quick run-down on some new innovations on manufacturing and design, as well as a very
>> honest review of a product I am beta-testing for a manufacturer- that he is considering being a
>> dealer for next spring. I also gave him the inside edge to new cycling events calendars (
>> promotion).
>
> I appreciate how nicely you replied. I should have read your post more carefully instead of
> leaping to an ill-natured conclusion.
>
> Sorry,
>
> Carl Fogel
Thank you for taking the time to write such a note. As you can tell- often the impersonality of the
internet leads to people escalating such interactions. It is reassuring that people such as yourself
would take the time to write such a note. Perhaps next time you are in doubt- ( maybe my wording was
not very precise the first posting)- you could write something like " you seem to be saying
Once again, this post implies a level of class and maturity that I am glad to make your
acquaintance.