Re: WHY???

Scott said:

Sheldon said:

Police Make Arrest in Kansas Teen's Death
Girl's Body Reportedly Found at a Missouri Lake
By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
AP
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (June 7) - Police arrested a man in the abduction
and death of a teenager whose body was found Wednesday in a Missouri
park four days after she disappeared from a Kansas store's parking
lot.

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Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean
street/corner prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

No. Rape is not about sex. First and foremost it's about forced power and
control over another person. Degradation and humiliation go right along
with it, hence the number of rapes that still go unreported.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Scott said:

Sheldon said:

Police Make Arrest in Kansas Teen's Death
Girl's Body Reportedly Found at a Missouri Lake
By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
AP
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (June 7) - Police arrested a man in the abduction
and death of a teenager whose body was found Wednesday in a Missouri
park four days after she disappeared from a Kansas store's parking
lot.

-----

Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean street/corner
prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

No.

Because rape is not all about sex.

You know better than that.
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Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean
street/corner prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

No. Rape is not about sex. First and foremost it's about forced power and
control over another person. Degradation and humiliation go right along
with it, hence the number of rapes that still go unreported.

That is definitely true but don't you think there are some cases where
just wanting to get some is the motivating factor?

Omelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Scott said:

Sheldon said:

Police Make Arrest in Kansas Teen's Death
Girl's Body Reportedly Found at a Missouri Lake
By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
AP
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (June 7) - Police arrested a man in the abduction
and death of a teenager whose body was found Wednesday in a Missouri
park four days after she disappeared from a Kansas store's parking
lot.

-----

Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean street/corner
prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

No.

Because rape is not all about sex.

You know better than that.
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

He said "cut down", not eliminate.

Scott said:

Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean street/corner
prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

IMO, it would not change the situation. Having sex with someone is
different than rape & murder, they are two different things. This man
did not want consensual sex with anyone, many rapists are married men.
This man wanted to dominate her, humilate her and have complete power
and control. Rape is an act of violence. This man did not want a willing
participant.

What a terrible thing to happen to such a young girl. My thoughts are
with her family.

Becca

Scott said:

Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean street/corner
prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

No. Rape isn't about sex, it's about power, control, anger, and
domination.

gloria p

Scott said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean
street/corner prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

No. Rape is not about sex. First and foremost it's about forced
power and control over another person. Degradation and humiliation
go right along with it, hence the number of rapes that still go
unreported.

That is definitely true but don't you think there are some cases where
just wanting to get some is the motivating factor?

No, I don't think so, except in the case of date rape. In those situations
I'd say a lot of the time the guy expects to "get some" because he paid for
dinner or maybe sprang for the large buttered popcorn at the movies. And
that is truly sad.

If someone just wants to "get some", legal or not, there are prostitutes all
over the place. So pay your $50 or $500 or whatever and get some. Leave
that poor unwilling woman alone.

Jill

j

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No, I don't think so, except in the case of date rape. In those situations
I'd say a lot of the time the guy expects to "get some" because he paid for
dinner or maybe sprang for the large buttered popcorn at the movies. And
that is truly sad.

If someone just wants to "get some", legal or not, there are prostitutes all
over the place. So pay your $50 or $500 or whatever and get some. Leave
that poor unwilling woman alone.

Jill

Legalizing prostitution was just a thought. I always believe in trying
to get to the root of the problem. It seems that nothing else is
working. Also in this case it looks like it was a matter of forced power
and control.

Scott said:

Sheldon said:

Police Make Arrest in Kansas Teen's Death
Girl's Body Reportedly Found at a Missouri Lake
By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
AP
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (June 7) - Police arrested a man in the abduction
and death of a teenager whose body was found Wednesday in a Missouri
park four days after she disappeared from a Kansas store's parking
lot.

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Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean street/corner
prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

No. Rape is a crime of power, not sex.
maxine in ri

Scott said:

Sheldon said:

Police Make Arrest in Kansas Teen's Death
Girl's Body Reportedly Found at a Missouri Lake
By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
AP
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (June 7) - Police arrested a man in the abduction
and death of a teenager whose body was found Wednesday in a Missouri
park four days after she disappeared from a Kansas store's parking
lot.

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Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean street/corner
prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

No. Rape ain't about sex.

That said I'm all for legalized prostitution.

Sheldon

Scott said:

Sheldon said:

Police Make Arrest in Kansas Teen's Death
Girl's Body Reportedly Found at a Missouri Lake
By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
AP
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (June 7) - Police arrested a man in the abduction
and death of a teenager whose body was found Wednesday in a Missouri
park four days after she disappeared from a Kansas store's parking
lot.

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Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean street/corner
prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

No, probably not very much, but it will cut down on pimps exploiting
prostitutes. It will cut down on stupid prosecutions and
imprisonments that waste tax dollars. It will bring at least some of
the prostitutes' earnings onto the tax rolls.

--Bryan

Scott said:

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Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean
street/corner prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

No. Rape is not about sex. First and foremost it's about forced power and
control over another person. Degradation and humiliation go right along
with it, hence the number of rapes that still go unreported.

That is definitely true but don't you think there are some cases where
just wanting to get some is the motivating factor?

Think about it, bro. Just wanting to "get some" fits the criteria.
How would you get it without overpowering a female in some way (mental
or physical)?

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sf said:

Scott said:

Quoted message said:

> Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean
> street/corner prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No. Rape is not about sex. First and foremost it's about forced power and
control over another person. Degradation and humiliation go right along
with it, hence the number of rapes that still go unreported.

Quoted message said:

That is definitely true but don't you think there are some cases where
just wanting to get some is the motivating factor?

Think about it, bro. Just wanting to "get some" fits the criteria.
How would you get it without overpowering a female in some way (mental
or physical)?

Explain what you mean by mental and physical... if you eliminate the
mental and physical you ain't "getting any" ever. Charming (mental)
and handsome (physical) always works for me.

Resorting to any kind of forcing to "get some" has never been in my
litany of options... besides my good looks I have my silver tongued
wit, my greatest asset is humor, getting a woman to laugh is 90pct of
the way home for me... but most important right from the get-go is
showing the woman I'm trustworthy. I've always treated each encounter
like an important job interview, I'm always willing to wait for the
gal to do her FBI check... I don't need to "get any" on the first date
or even the first few dates... but I can always tell by the first date
whether getting any is in the cards. I don't "give any" on a first
date either, I gotta do my FBI check too... a woman who comes on too
strong on a first date is probably trouble.

Sheldon

jmcquown said:

Scott said:

Sheldon said:

Police Make Arrest in Kansas Teen's Death
Girl's Body Reportedly Found at a Missouri Lake
By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
AP
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (June 7) - Police arrested a man in the abduction
and death of a teenager whose body was found Wednesday in a Missouri
park four days after she disappeared from a Kansas store's parking
lot.

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Quoted message said:

Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean
street/corner prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

No. Rape is not about sex. First and foremost it's about forced power and
control over another person. Degradation and humiliation go right along
with it, hence the number of rapes that still go unreported.

But "power" and "degradation and humiliation" can be sexual turn-ons.
Inappropriate sexual turn-ons, yes, but the whole crock-of-[censored] line,
"Rape is not about sex," is promoted to make rape victims feel better,
and hopefully lessen the rape's effect on the victim's sexuality.
However well meaning, it is still [censored].
I go so far as to say that any sexual intercourse that takes place in
a context of men being for more powerful than women is potentially
rape. That includes all sex that takes place in highly patriarchal
societies. In these societies, women have less power than the typical
12 year old girl in the West, and we think that guys who seduce 12
year old girls are horrible cads.

In parts of Africa they practice FGM*, which is meant to make
intercourse undesirable for women, thus transforming EVERY event into
rape. There, rape is the norm for sexual relations. Do you think
that when Nigerian men have sex with their mutilated wives, that it
"is not about sex"? You think that those guys aren't horny?

However much people don't like to admit it, rape is on the continuum
of normal human sexuality. That doesn't make it good, or even
acceptable. It is also "normal" to want to kill people who have upset
you, but we don't allow it, and for good reason. It is normal to want
to take your neighbors' food, dwelling, whatever too. We attempt to
socialize our children such that they do not do those things, by
instilling empathy and a sense of fairness. We don't always succeed.

Prostitution should be legal for ONE REASON, because our society,
which has, and continues to treat women as second class human beings,
has no moral authority to tell and individual woman what she may or
may not do with her own body. Telling women that they cannot use any
asset that they happen to have in consensual commerce continues that
patriarchal ownership paradigm. Those who think otherwise have a lot
in common with bin Laden and his folks.

In bonobo** societies there is no rape, and the females use their
sexual appeal to empower themselves, the nightmare scenario for all
the patriarchal religios, be they Taliban, or the guy in the Vatican.

*"The importance given to virginity and an intact hymen in these
societies is the reason why female circumcision still remains a very
widespread practice despite a growing tendency, especially in urban
Egypt, to do away with it as something outdated and harmful. Behind
circumcision lies the belief that, by removing parts of girls'
external genitals organs, sexual desire is minimized. This permits a
female who has reached the dangerous age of puberty and adolescence to
protect her virginity, and therefore her honor, with greater ease.
Chastity was imposed on male attendants in the female harem by
castration which turned them into inoffensive eunuchs. Similarly
female circumcision is meant to preserve the chastity of young girls
by reducing their desire for sexual intercourse."
--source: http://www.religioustolerance.org/fem_cirm.htm

** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

--Bryan

Frustrated daddies
Pathetic old men
Keep tryin' to sell us
With love as a sin
We're all fu(king sick of pathetic old men
--The Bonobos

I just got this in a bulletin on myspace:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0607/0501_james_wamsley.html

Here is James Wamsley's myspace:
myspace.com/jamesvolcom

--Bryan, not apologizing for top posting

On Jun 8, 9:37 am, BOBOBOnoBO® fka Food Snob <[email hidden]>

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jmcquown said:

Scott said:

Sheldon wrote:
> Police Make Arrest in Kansas Teen's Death
> Girl's Body Reportedly Found at a Missouri Lake
> By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
> AP
> OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (June 7) - Police arrested a man in the abduction
> and death of a teenager whose body was found Wednesday in a Missouri
> park four days after she disappeared from a Kansas store's parking
> lot.

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Quoted message said:

Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean
street/corner prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

Quoted message said:

No. Rape is not about sex. First and foremost it's about forced powerand
control over another person. Degradation and humiliation go right along
with it, hence the number of rapes that still go unreported.

But "power" and "degradation and humiliation" can be sexual turn-ons.
Inappropriate sexual turn-ons, yes, but the whole crock-of-[censored] line,
"Rape is not about sex," is promoted to make rape victims feel better,
and hopefully lessen the rape's effect on the victim's sexuality.
However well meaning, it is still [censored].
I go so far as to say that any sexual intercourse that takes place in
a context of men being for more powerful than women is potentially
rape. That includes all sex that takes place in highly patriarchal
societies. In these societies, women have less power than the typical
12 year old girl in the West, and we think that guys who seduce 12
year old girls are horrible cads.

In parts of Africa they practice FGM*, which is meant to make
intercourse undesirable for women, thus transforming EVERY event into
rape. There, rape is the norm for sexual relations. Do you think
that when Nigerian men have sex with their mutilated wives, that it
"is not about sex"? You think that those guys aren't horny?

However much people don't like to admit it, rape is on the continuum
of normal human sexuality. That doesn't make it good, or even
acceptable. It is also "normal" to want to kill people who have upset
you, but we don't allow it, and for good reason. It is normal to want
to take your neighbors' food, dwelling, whatever too. We attempt to
socialize our children such that they do not do those things, by
instilling empathy and a sense of fairness. We don't always succeed.

Prostitution should be legal for ONE REASON, because our society,
which has, and continues to treat women as second class human beings,
has no moral authority to tell and individual woman what she may or
may not do with her own body. Telling women that they cannot use any
asset that they happen to have in consensual commerce continues that
patriarchal ownership paradigm. Those who think otherwise have a lot
in common with bin Laden and his folks.

In bonobo** societies there is no rape, and the females use their
sexual appeal to empower themselves, the nightmare scenario for all
the patriarchal religios, be they Taliban, or the guy in the Vatican.

*"The importance given to virginity and an intact hymen in these
societies is the reason why female circumcision still remains a very
widespread practice despite a growing tendency, especially in urban
Egypt, to do away with it as something outdated and harmful. Behind
circumcision lies the belief that, by removing parts of girls'
external genitals organs, sexual desire is minimized. This permits a
female who has reached the dangerous age of puberty and adolescence to
protect her virginity, and therefore her honor, with greater ease.
Chastity was imposed on male attendants in the female harem by
castration which turned them into inoffensive eunuchs. Similarly
female circumcision is meant to preserve the chastity of young girls
by reducing their desire for sexual intercourse."
--source:http://www.religioustolerance.org/fem_cirm.htm

**http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

--Bryan

Frustrated daddies
Pathetic old men
Keep tryin' to sell us
With love as a sin
We're all fu(king sick of pathetic old men
--The Bonobos

On Jun 8, 10:09 am, BOBOBOnoBO® fka Food Snob <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I just got this in a bulletin on myspace:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0607/0501_james_wamsley.html

Here is James Wamsley's myspace:
myspace.com/jamesvolcom

--Bryan, not apologizing for top posting

On Jun 8, 9:37 am, BOBOBOnoBO® fka Food Snob <[email hidden]>

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On Jun 7, 10:35 am, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Scott wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>> Police Make Arrest in Kansas Teen's Death
>> Girl's Body Reportedly Found at a Missouri Lake
>> By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
>> AP
>> OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (June 7) - Police arrested a man in the abduction
>> and death of a teenager whose body was found Wednesday in a Missouri
>> park four days after she disappeared from a Kansas store's parking
>> lot.

Quoted message said:

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>> -----

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean
> street/corner prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No. Rape is not about sex. First and foremost it's about forced power and
control over another person. Degradation and humiliation go right along
with it, hence the number of rapes that still go unreported.

Quoted message said:

But "power" and "degradation and humiliation" can be sexual turn-ons.
Inappropriate sexual turn-ons, yes, but the whole crock-of-[censored] line,
"Rape is not about sex," is promoted to make rape victims feel better,
and hopefully lessen the rape's effect on the victim's sexuality.
However well meaning, it is still [censored].
I go so far as to say that any sexual intercourse that takes place in
a context of men being for more powerful than women is potentially
rape. That includes all sex that takes place in highly patriarchal
societies. In these societies, women have less power than the typical
12 year old girl in the West, and we think that guys who seduce 12
year old girls are horrible cads.

Quoted message said:

In parts of Africa they practice FGM*, which is meant to make
intercourse undesirable for women, thus transforming EVERY event into
rape. There, rape is the norm for sexual relations. Do you think
that when Nigerian men have sex with their mutilated wives, that it
"is not about sex"? You think that those guys aren't horny?

Quoted message said:

However much people don't like to admit it, rape is on the continuum
of normal human sexuality. That doesn't make it good, or even
acceptable. It is also "normal" to want to kill people who have upset
you, but we don't allow it, and for good reason. It is normal to want
to take your neighbors' food, dwelling, whatever too. We attempt to
socialize our children such that they do not do those things, by
instilling empathy and a sense of fairness. We don't always succeed.

Quoted message said:

Prostitution should be legal for ONE REASON, because our society,
which has, and continues to treat women as second class human beings,
has no moral authority to tell and individual woman what she may or
may not do with her own body. Telling women that they cannot use any
asset that they happen to have in consensual commerce continues that
patriarchal ownership paradigm. Those who think otherwise have a lot
in common with bin Laden and his folks.

Quoted message said:

In bonobo** societies there is no rape, and the females use their
sexual appeal to empower themselves, the nightmare scenario for all
the patriarchal religios, be they Taliban, or the guy in the Vatican.

Quoted message said:

*"The importance given to virginity and an intact hymen in these
societies is the reason why female circumcision still remains a very
widespread practice despite a growing tendency, especially in urban
Egypt, to do away with it as something outdated and harmful. Behind
circumcision lies the belief that, by removing parts of girls'
external genitals organs, sexual desire is minimized. This permits a
female who has reached the dangerous age of puberty and adolescence to
protect her virginity, and therefore her honor, with greater ease.
Chastity was imposed on male attendants in the female harem by
castration which turned them into inoffensive eunuchs. Similarly
female circumcision is meant to preserve the chastity of young girls
by reducing their desire for sexual intercourse."
--source:http://www.religioustolerance.org/fem_cirm.htm

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**http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

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--Bryan

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Frustrated daddies
Pathetic old men
Keep tryin' to sell us
With love as a sin
We're all fu(king sick of pathetic old men
--The Bonobos- Hide quoted text -

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What's up?

Is it rape week or something?

-F

On Jun 8, 4:40 pm, Haeresis Fascinetum <[email hidden]>

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On Jun 8, 10:09 am, BOBOBOnoBO® fka Food Snob <[email hidden]>

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I just got this in a bulletin on myspace:

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http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0607/0501_james_wamsley.html

Quoted message said:

Here is James Wamsley's myspace:
myspace.com/jamesvolcom

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--Bryan, not apologizing for top posting

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On Jun 8, 9:37 am, BOBOBOnoBO® fka Food Snob <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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On Jun 7, 10:35 am, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

> Scott wrote:
> > Sheldon wrote:
> >> Police Make Arrest in Kansas Teen's Death
> >> Girl's Body Reportedly Found at a Missouri Lake
> >> By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
> >> AP
> >> OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (June 7) - Police arrested a man in the abduction
> >> and death of a teenager whose body was found Wednesday in a Missouri
> >> park four days after she disappeared from a Kansas store's parking
> >> lot.

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> >> -----

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> > Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean
> > street/corner prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> No. Rape is not about sex. First and foremost it's about forced power and
> control over another person. Degradation and humiliation go right along
> with it, hence the number of rapes that still go unreported.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But "power" and "degradation and humiliation" can be sexual turn-ons.
Inappropriate sexual turn-ons, yes, but the whole crock-of-[censored] line,
"Rape is not about sex," is promoted to make rape victims feel better,
and hopefully lessen the rape's effect on the victim's sexuality.
However well meaning, it is still [censored].
I go so far as to say that any sexual intercourse that takes place in
a context of men being for more powerful than women is potentially
rape. That includes all sex that takes place in highly patriarchal
societies. In these societies, women have less power than the typical
12 year old girl in the West, and we think that guys who seduce 12
year old girls are horrible cads.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In parts of Africa they practice FGM*, which is meant to make
intercourse undesirable for women, thus transforming EVERY event into
rape. There, rape is the norm for sexual relations. Do you think
that when Nigerian men have sex with their mutilated wives, that it
"is not about sex"? You think that those guys aren't horny?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

However much people don't like to admit it, rape is on the continuum
of normal human sexuality. That doesn't make it good, or even
acceptable. It is also "normal" to want to kill people who have upset
you, but we don't allow it, and for good reason. It is normal to want
to take your neighbors' food, dwelling, whatever too. We attempt to
socialize our children such that they do not do those things, by
instilling empathy and a sense of fairness. We don't always succeed.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Prostitution should be legal for ONE REASON, because our society,
which has, and continues to treat women as second class human beings,
has no moral authority to tell and individual woman what she may or
may not do with her own body. Telling women that they cannot use any
asset that they happen to have in consensual commerce continues that
patriarchal ownership paradigm. Those who think otherwise have a lot
in common with bin Laden and his folks.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In bonobo** societies there is no rape, and the females use their
sexual appeal to empower themselves, the nightmare scenario for all
the patriarchal religios, be they Taliban, or the guy in the Vatican.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

*"The importance given to virginity and an intact hymen in these
societies is the reason why female circumcision still remains a very
widespread practice despite a growing tendency, especially in urban
Egypt, to do away with it as something outdated and harmful. Behind
circumcision lies the belief that, by removing parts of girls'
external genitals organs, sexual desire is minimized. This permits a
female who has reached the dangerous age of puberty and adolescence to
protect her virginity, and therefore her honor, with greater ease.
Chastity was imposed on male attendants in the female harem by
castration which turned them into inoffensive eunuchs. Similarly
female circumcision is meant to preserve the chastity of young girls
by reducing their desire for sexual intercourse."
--source:http://www.religioustolerance.org/fem_cirm.htm

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**http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

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--Bryan

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Frustrated daddies
Pathetic old men
Keep tryin' to sell us
With love as a sin
We're all fu(king sick of pathetic old men
--The Bonobos- Hide quoted text -

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What's up?

Is it rape week or something?

This is the first you've heard of it? Jeez, it's Friday.

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-F

--Bryan

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On Jun 8, 4:40 pm, Haeresis Fascinetum <[email hidden]>

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On Jun 8, 10:09 am, BOBOBOnoBO® fka Food Snob <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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I just got this in a bulletin on myspace:

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http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0607/0501_james_wamsley.html

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Here is James Wamsley's myspace:
myspace.com/jamesvolcom

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--Bryan, not apologizing for top posting

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On Jun 8, 9:37 am, BOBOBOnoBO® fka Food Snob <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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> On Jun 7, 10:35 am, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > Scott wrote:
> > > Sheldon wrote:
> > >> Police Make Arrest in Kansas Teen's Death
> > >> Girl's Body Reportedly Found at a Missouri Lake
> > >> By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
> > >> AP
> > >> OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (June 7) - Police arrested a man in the abduction
> > >> and death of a teenager whose body was found Wednesday in a Missouri
> > >> park four days after she disappeared from a Kansas store's parking
> > >> lot.

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> > >> -----

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> > > Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean
> > > street/corner prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

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> > No. Rape is not about sex. First and foremost it's about forcedpower and
> > control over another person. Degradation and humiliation go right along
> > with it, hence the number of rapes that still go unreported.

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> But "power" and "degradation and humiliation" can be sexual turn-ons.
> Inappropriate sexual turn-ons, yes, but the whole crock-of-[censored] line,
> "Rape is not about sex," is promoted to make rape victims feel better,
> and hopefully lessen the rape's effect on the victim's sexuality.
> However well meaning, it is still [censored].
> I go so far as to say that any sexual intercourse that takes place in
> a context of men being for more powerful than women is potentially
> rape. That includes all sex that takes place in highly patriarchal
> societies. In these societies, women have less power than the typical
> 12 year old girl in the West, and we think that guys who seduce 12
> year old girls are horrible cads.

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> In parts of Africa they practice FGM*, which is meant to make
> intercourse undesirable for women, thus transforming EVERY event into
> rape. There, rape is the norm for sexual relations. Do you think
> that when Nigerian men have sex with their mutilated wives, that it
> "is not about sex"? You think that those guys aren't horny?

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> However much people don't like to admit it, rape is on the continuum
> of normal human sexuality. That doesn't make it good, or even
> acceptable. It is also "normal" to want to kill people who have upset
> you, but we don't allow it, and for good reason. It is normal to want
> to take your neighbors' food, dwelling, whatever too. We attempt to
> socialize our children such that they do not do those things, by
> instilling empathy and a sense of fairness. We don't always succeed.

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> Prostitution should be legal for ONE REASON, because our society,
> which has, and continues to treat women as second class human beings,
> has no moral authority to tell and individual woman what she may or
> may not do with her own body. Telling women that they cannot use any
> asset that they happen to have in consensual commerce continues that
> patriarchal ownership paradigm. Those who think otherwise have a lot
> in common with bin Laden and his folks.

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> In bonobo** societies there is no rape, and the females use their
> sexual appeal to empower themselves, the nightmare scenario for all
> the patriarchal religios, be they Taliban, or the guy in the Vatican.

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> *"The importance given to virginity and an intact hymen in these
> societies is the reason why female circumcision still remains a very
> widespread practice despite a growing tendency, especially in urban
> Egypt, to do away with it as something outdated and harmful. Behind
> circumcision lies the belief that, by removing parts of girls'
> external genitals organs, sexual desire is minimized. This permits a
> female who has reached the dangerous age of puberty and adolescenceto
> protect her virginity, and therefore her honor, with greater ease.
> Chastity was imposed on male attendants in the female harem by
> castration which turned them into inoffensive eunuchs. Similarly
> female circumcision is meant to preserve the chastity of young girls
> by reducing their desire for sexual intercourse."
> --source:http://www.religioustolerance.org/fem_cirm.htm

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> **http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

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> --Bryan

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> Frustrated daddies
> Pathetic old men
> Keep tryin' to sell us
> With love as a sin
> We're all fu(king sick of pathetic old men
> --The Bonobos- Hide quoted text -

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What's up?

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Is it rape week or something?

This is the first you've heard of it? Jeez, it's Friday.

I don't have a television specifically to keep me from hearing about
things like this.

-F

Haeresis Fascinetum said:

BOBOBOnoBO® said:

On Jun 8, 4:40 pm, Haeresis Fascinetum <[email hidden]>

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On Jun 8, 10:09 am, BOBOBOnoBO® fka Food Snob <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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> I just got this in a bulletin on myspace:

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>http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0607/0501_james_wamsley.html

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> Here is James Wamsley's myspace:
> myspace.com/jamesvolcom

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> --Bryan, not apologizing for top posting

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> On Jun 8, 9:37 am, BOBOBOnoBO® fka Food Snob <[email hidden]>
> wrote:

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> > On Jun 7, 10:35 am, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > > Scott wrote:
> > > > Sheldon wrote:
> > > >> Police Make Arrest in Kansas Teen's Death
> > > >> Girl's Body Reportedly Found at a Missouri Lake
> > > >> By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
> > > >> AP
> > > >> OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (June 7) - Police arrested a man in the abduction
> > > >> and death of a teenager whose body was found Wednesday in a Missouri
> > > >> park four days after she disappeared from a Kansas store's parking
> > > >> lot.

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> > > >> -----

Quoted message said:

> > > > Do you think if they legalize prostitution ( I don't mean
> > > > street/corner prostitution) it will cut down on the number of rapes?

Quoted message said:

> > > No. Rape is not about sex. First and foremost it's about forced power and
> > > control over another person. Degradation and humiliation go right along
> > > with it, hence the number of rapes that still go unreported.

Quoted message said:

> > But "power" and "degradation and humiliation" can be sexual turn-ons.
> > Inappropriate sexual turn-ons, yes, but the whole crock-of-[censored] line,
> > "Rape is not about sex," is promoted to make rape victims feel better,
> > and hopefully lessen the rape's effect on the victim's sexuality.
> > However well meaning, it is still [censored].
> > I go so far as to say that any sexual intercourse that takes place in
> > a context of men being for more powerful than women is potentially
> > rape. That includes all sex that takes place in highly patriarchal
> > societies. In these societies, women have less power than the typical
> > 12 year old girl in the West, and we think that guys who seduce 12
> > year old girls are horrible cads.

Quoted message said:

> > In parts of Africa they practice FGM*, which is meant to make
> > intercourse undesirable for women, thus transforming EVERY event into
> > rape. There, rape is the norm for sexual relations. Do you think
> > that when Nigerian men have sex with their mutilated wives, that it
> > "is not about sex"? You think that those guys aren't horny?

Quoted message said:

> > However much people don't like to admit it, rape is on the continuum
> > of normal human sexuality. That doesn't make it good, or even
> > acceptable. It is also "normal" to want to kill people who have upset
> > you, but we don't allow it, and for good reason. It is normal to want
> > to take your neighbors' food, dwelling, whatever too. We attempt to
> > socialize our children such that they do not do those things, by
> > instilling empathy and a sense of fairness. We don't always succeed.

Quoted message said:

> > Prostitution should be legal for ONE REASON, because our society,
> > which has, and continues to treat women as second class human beings,
> > has no moral authority to tell and individual woman what she may or
> > may not do with her own body. Telling women that they cannot use any
> > asset that they happen to have in consensual commerce continues that
> > patriarchal ownership paradigm. Those who think otherwise have a lot
> > in common with bin Laden and his folks.

Quoted message said:

> > In bonobo** societies there is no rape, and the females use their
> > sexual appeal to empower themselves, the nightmare scenario for all
> > the patriarchal religios, be they Taliban, or the guy in the Vatican.

Quoted message said:

> > *"The importance given to virginity and an intact hymen in these
> > societies is the reason why female circumcision still remains a very
> > widespread practice despite a growing tendency, especially in urban
> > Egypt, to do away with it as something outdated and harmful. Behind
> > circumcision lies the belief that, by removing parts of girls'
> > external genitals organs, sexual desire is minimized. This permits a
> > female who has reached the dangerous age of puberty and adolescence to
> > protect her virginity, and therefore her honor, with greater ease.
> > Chastity was imposed on male attendants in the female harem by
> > castration which turned them into inoffensive eunuchs. Similarly
> > female circumcision is meant to preserve the chastity of young girls
> > by reducing their desire for sexual intercourse."
> > --source:http://www.religioustolerance.org/fem_cirm.htm

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> > **http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

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> > --Bryan

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> > Frustrated daddies
> > Pathetic old men
> > Keep tryin' to sell us
> > With love as a sin
> > We're all fu(king sick of pathetic old men
> > --The Bonobos- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

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What's up?

Quoted message said:

Is it rape week or something?

This is the first you've heard of it? Jeez, it's Friday.

I don't have a television specifically to keep me from hearing about
things like this.

You ever been concerned about the TV watching you whilst you're
watching it?

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