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"Kenny Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> bfd wrote:
> > "Donald Gillies" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>Looks to me Japan-style price deflation is taking down prices of engineered bicycle components
> >>everywhere. Shimano isn't the only component-maker trying to prop up prices to stay alive. See
> >>the recent notice from Chris King, listed below, for another desperate attempt to maintain
> >>prices in the market channel. Perhaps new Chinese components will be hitting the USA mainland
> >>soon ??
> >>
> >
> > Interesting, but are Chinese made components going to be able to compete with the likes of Chris
> > King? Does anyone make headsets comparable to
Chris
> > King? At any price? I think not! At around $100 or less, CK headsets are arguably the best. What
> > do you have?
> I live and ride in Taiwan. I've been told that Campy, Look, SRAM, TREK and a whole bunch of others
> are doing a whole lot of business here in Taiwan.
I have no doubt that this is the case.
> I can bear witness that the people here and in China have the resources and the ability to
> manufacture bike parts to NASA specs, be it metal or
> CF. I've seen them, bought them and am using them right now. The prices are unbelivable. Sorry to
> say this but, if I were CK or PW I'd seriouly consider moving my production to Taiwan.
The only people who care about the "Made in America" cachet are Americans. Correct me if I'm wrong
here. I think just about everybody else has moved on, especially when they see the difference in
retail margins between USA-made and Taiwan-made frames, wheels and components.
For instance, many lightweight racing wheelsets - often with European or US brand names - are made
in Taiwan and mainland China. How can US-made goods compete?
Have a look at the A-Class website and see if these wheelsets look familiar:
http://aclass-wheels.com/
> The following link points to a company that makes world class quality CF parts, CHEAP. For prices
> contact them directly.
>
> http://www.pazzaz.com/
I would bet a round of Guinness that Pazzazz makes some of the "Weyless" components (cranks, stems,
seatpost, etc) sold by SuperGo, and probably other house-branded parts from other mail-order
outfits. Looks like great stuff to me. I've used Pazzazz carbon components in the past, and they
were excellent quality.
-Barry
> bfd wrote:
> > "Donald Gillies" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>Looks to me Japan-style price deflation is taking down prices of engineered bicycle components
> >>everywhere. Shimano isn't the only component-maker trying to prop up prices to stay alive. See
> >>the recent notice from Chris King, listed below, for another desperate attempt to maintain
> >>prices in the market channel. Perhaps new Chinese components will be hitting the USA mainland
> >>soon ??
> >>
> >
> > Interesting, but are Chinese made components going to be able to compete with the likes of Chris
> > King? Does anyone make headsets comparable to
Chris
> > King? At any price? I think not! At around $100 or less, CK headsets are arguably the best. What
> > do you have?
> I live and ride in Taiwan. I've been told that Campy, Look, SRAM, TREK and a whole bunch of others
> are doing a whole lot of business here in Taiwan.
I have no doubt that this is the case.
> I can bear witness that the people here and in China have the resources and the ability to
> manufacture bike parts to NASA specs, be it metal or
> CF. I've seen them, bought them and am using them right now. The prices are unbelivable. Sorry to
> say this but, if I were CK or PW I'd seriouly consider moving my production to Taiwan.
The only people who care about the "Made in America" cachet are Americans. Correct me if I'm wrong
here. I think just about everybody else has moved on, especially when they see the difference in
retail margins between USA-made and Taiwan-made frames, wheels and components.
For instance, many lightweight racing wheelsets - often with European or US brand names - are made
in Taiwan and mainland China. How can US-made goods compete?
Have a look at the A-Class website and see if these wheelsets look familiar:
http://aclass-wheels.com/
> The following link points to a company that makes world class quality CF parts, CHEAP. For prices
> contact them directly.
>
> http://www.pazzaz.com/
I would bet a round of Guinness that Pazzazz makes some of the "Weyless" components (cranks, stems,
seatpost, etc) sold by SuperGo, and probably other house-branded parts from other mail-order
outfits. Looks like great stuff to me. I've used Pazzazz carbon components in the past, and they
were excellent quality.
-Barry