Semi-bent Hase Pino questions

[Prisoner at War]

On May 11, 6:08 am, what does THIS button do? <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I recently successfully took my bestest girl out for a tandem ride up
> the Fox River Trail on a conventional tandem.
> She had a good enough time (she's still my girlfriend etc) but
> remarked that she'd like to see something more than my rythmically
> pumping muscular ass. Hard to believe but ... oh and she wants a
> freehwheeling stoker.
>
> So i stopped by one of my LBSs, The Bike Rack, and took a test ride on
> the Hase Pimo <http://thebikerack.com/itemdetails.cfm?ID=4839>. Not
> cheap. Very not cheap, but i found the craftsmanship/fab/engineering
> to be really nice and enjoyed the couple miles i put on it.
>
> Convincing my SO that it's worth ~$4600 post tax... well, that calls
> for another kind of engineering, mostly social.
>
> I'd like to hear honest opinions. Do you have one? Does a friend?
> thumbs up or down. I'm guessing they should hold their value fairly
> well?
>
> Honestly, we'll probably end up with a $1500 conventionally configured
> tandem, mostly because i'm not all that persuasive.
>
> TIA, etc,
>
> .max



I'd get it if I had the space to put it!

It's been reviewed a few times, by Tandem and Recumbent Rider and
VeloVision. There are also a few online reviews of various models (it
comes in aluminum, titanium, and can also be custom-tailored).

There was a cheaper US version made by some dude out of his workshop
but he's since gone out of business, unfortunately, so Hase is the
only game around for that unique and apparently quite comfy design.

 

[Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman]

On May 24, 8:31 am, cat0020 aka TC in Philly wrote:
> What don't you get, Tom?

Apparently, context.

> According to your previous comment: "Comparing the bicycles I know to
> the people I know; in general, the bicycles have better
> personalities."
> The fact is, no bicycle have personality, they may reflect the
> personality of the rider, but that's about as far as I would
> consider.

I think it is whoosh!

> Another of your previous comment: "A true cyclist's concern is with
> the bicycle, not the rider."
> Any cyclist, good personality or bad, is less expendable in case of a
> "very bad crash" than any bicycle; when there is a choice, people
> would rather damage a bicycle to save themselves from any severe
> damage, if they have the time to think about the consequences,
> intended or not.

Well, people are selfish.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

 

[[email protected]]

On May 24, 9:38 pm, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think it is whoosh!
>
>
> Well, people are selfish.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful


I agree with cat that bicycles have no personality, people value
bicycles at their own accord.
What Tom said does not make sense.
WTH is whoosh? how does whoosh fit into context?
Whether people are selfish or not, has nothing to do with bicycles
having personality.
Do you have anything to contribute to the topic of this thread?
Have you got any experience with semi-bent tandems?

F. Ogawa

 

[Zebee Johnstone]

In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on 25 May 2007 05:16:26 -0700
[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I agree with cat that bicycles have no personality, people value
> bicycles at their own accord.
> What Tom said does not make sense.
> WTH is whoosh? how does whoosh fit into context?

Whoosh means "A joke went right by you"

Zebee

 

[Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman]

On May 25, 7:16 am, F. Ogawa wrote:
> On May 24, 9:38 pm, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>
> > I think it is whoosh!
>
> > Well, people are selfish.
>
> I agree with cat that bicycles have no personality, people value
> bicycles at their own accord.
> What Tom said does not make sense.

Nonsense!

> WTH is whoosh? how does whoosh fit into context?

New to Usenet?

> Whether people are selfish or not, has nothing to do with bicycles
> having personality.

A bicycle with no personality is morally superior to a selfish person.

> Do you have anything to contribute to the topic of this thread?

Actually, I did post something relevant to the original post earlier
on. Please pay attention.

> Have you got any experience with semi-bent tandems?

I did manage to temporarily convert a straight Green Gear DoubleDay
tandem into a semi-bent tandem while stoking (fortunately, a problem
that could be fixed in less than a minute with a hex key).

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

 

[Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman]

On May 26, 10:34 pm, Edward Dolan wrote:
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote in messagenews:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > On May 25, 7:16 am, F. Ogawa wrote:
> >> On May 24, 9:38 pm, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>
> >> > I think it is whoosh!
>
> >> > Well, people are selfish.
>
> >> I agree with cat that bicycles have no personality, people value
> >> bicycles at their own accord.
> >> What Tom said does not make sense.
>
> > Nonsense!
>
> >> WTH is whoosh? how does whoosh fit into context?
>
> > New to Usenet?
>
> >> Whether people are selfish or not, has nothing to do with bicycles
> >> having personality.
>
> > A bicycle with no personality is morally superior to a selfish person.
>
> >> Do you have anything to contribute to the topic of this thread?
>
> > Actually, I did post something relevant to the original post earlier
> > on. Please pay attention.
>
> >> Have you got any experience with semi-bent tandems?
>
> > I did manage to temporarily convert a straight Green Gear DoubleDay
> > tandem into a semi-bent tandem while stoking (fortunately, a problem
> > that could be fixed in less than a minute with a hex key).
>
> Here is an example of Tom Sherman failing to communicate with someone not
> yet familiar with his eccentric ways. It is why you must always be solid and
> stolid with those who are unfamiliar with you....

Whoosh!

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
As you know, you have to go on a ride with the wheels you have.
They're not the wheels you might want or wish to have at a later time.

 

[Travis Prebble]

On May 11, 6:08 am, what does THIS button do? <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I'd like to hear honest opinions. Do you have one? Does a friend?
> thumbs up or down. I'm guessing they should hold their value fairly
> well?

My son has one, but since he's 5 years old, I guess "we" have one. We
got it specifically because he loves to pedal but has weak upper body
support due to cerebral palsy. The semi-recumbent approach was the
best way to go for him as I serve as captain and main power plant
while he gets his own set of freewheeled pedals in a seat that can be
modified to support his torso.

We've done about 200 miles on it now and have had no problems related
to the bike itself. The proximity of the captain to the stoker means
I can easily hear his verbal cues and read his body language, so
that's been great. We have fitted it with the child bracket to move
the cranks closer to the recumbent seat. We have also added on the
Hase heavy duty twin stand to provide stability while my son is
getting strapped in (chest harness, hip restraint, and foot restraints
to hold him to the pedals).

For our purposes, it is a definite thumbs up. We love to ride
together and do so at every opportunity. But we have a very specific
set of criteria that makes the Pino the natural choice for our
situation. For general riding, $4600 is a tough pill to swallow.
Somebody else mentioned the TW-Bent version at $1200. You could
definitely look at that for a lower priced alternative, though you'll
have to work out the lack of a freewheel yourself with that one.

Speaking of the freewheel, the stoker's freewheel allows the stoker to
stop pedaling at any time. The same is not true for the captain. The
caption must be pedaling in order for the stoker to pedal. This works
out well for me because it means I must be constantly spinning in
order for my son to enjoy pedaling, doing wonders for my cadence.

If you'd like to see some photos aside from the Hase marketing
materials, check out my Flickr site:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=hase pino&w=70194489@N00

The Pino is by no means a bad purchase. You won't regret the quality
of the bike and the ability to talk with your stoker. But if the
price is a stumbling block, it's probably best not to force it unless
you feel like you're going to get $4600 worth of fun out of it.

-- Trav