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  1. James Hodson <[email hidden]>typed

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    On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 02:02:39 GMT, [email hidden] (pmailkeey) wrote:

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    [SNIP]

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    Lobby your Council for grade separated crossings.

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    Hi Mike

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    What is a grade separated crossing?

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    James

    Something to be rejected!

    A subway or footbridge, so that pedestrians, travelling with no assistance have to waste energy
    climbing and descending ramps, usually taking an unnecessarily long route for the conveience of
    wheeled and motorised road-users.

    Fit pedestrians frequently jump over guard rails to avoid them, occasionally getting killed by
    murderists. One 'grade-separated' crossing I know (at the A406/A502 crossroads in North-West London)
    has a footbridge which is EIGHT times as long as crossing on the level.

    Grade-separated crossings are HORRIBLE!

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden] Edgware.

  2. On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:20:53 GMT, Helen Deborah Vecht
    <[email hidden]> wrote (more or less):

    Quoted message said:

    James Hodson <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 02:02:39 GMT, [email hidden] (pmailkeey) wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    [SNIP]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Lobby your Council for grade separated crossings.

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Mike

    Quoted message said:

    What is a grade separated crossing?

    Quoted message said:

    James

    Something to be rejected!

    A subway or footbridge, so that pedestrians, travelling with no assistance have to waste energy
    climbing and descending ramps, usually taking an unnecessarily long route for the conveience of
    wheeled and motorised road-users.

    Fit pedestrians frequently jump over guard rails to avoid them, occasionally getting killed by
    murderists. One 'grade-separated' crossing I know (at the A406/A502 crossroads in North-West
    London) has a footbridge which is EIGHT times as long as crossing on the level.

    Grade-separated crossings are HORRIBLE!

    I'd amend that to

    grade-sparated crossings are HORRIBLE, unless it's the motorists who have to negotiate the
    ganges of grade.

    I'm fine with the road being sent down a tunnell, through an underpass, or up over a bridge.

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  3. Helen Deborah Vecht said:

    Something to be rejected!

    A subway or footbridge, so that pedestrians, travelling with no assistance have to waste energy
    climbing and descending ramps, usually taking an unnecessarily long route for the conveience of
    wheeled and motorised road-users.

    Hi Helen

    A reasonably complex term for a simple crossing.

    The only one of these things I have ever used is one where I hacked up and bounced down a stepped
    footbridge across the A259.

    As you say: they're to be avoided.

    James

  4. Gawnsoft <[email hidden]>typed

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    On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:20:53 GMT, Helen Deborah Vecht <[email hidden]> wrote (more
    or less):

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    Quoted message said:

    James Hodson <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 02:02:39 GMT, [email hidden] (pmailkeey) wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    [SNIP]

    Quoted message said:

    >Lobby your Council for grade separated crossings.


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    I'm fine with the road being sent down a tunnell, through an underpass, or up over a bridge.

    The proposition has been rejected on the grounds of cost.

    Let's just shepherd the pedestrians into horrid subways and footbridges on the grounds of safety...

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden] Edgware.

  5. On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 09:44:03 GMT, Trevor Barton <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    🙂Why do you persist in your misunderstanding of the word
    :calibrated?

    Sorry, I'm just using it as defined in a dictionary !

    --
    Comm again, Mike.

  6. On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 17:30:21 +0000, James Hodson
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    🙂On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 02:02:39 GMT,
    :[email hidden] )(pmailkeey) wrote: )
    🙂[SNIP] ) )>Lobby your Council for grade separated
    :crossings. ) )Hi Mike ) )What is a grade separated
    :crossing?

    Different height - using underpasses & bridges.

    Council technojargon, I think !
    --
    Comm again, Mike.

  7. On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:20:53 GMT, Helen Deborah Vecht
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    🙂James Hodson <[email hidden]>typed
    🙂 ) )> On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 02:02:39 GMT,
    :[email hidden] )> (pmailkeey) wrote: ) )>
    :[SNIP] ) )> >Lobby your Council for grade separated
    :crossings. ) ) )Grade-separated crossings are HORRIBLE! )

    No they're not. It's just the design of some that's
    horrible !
    --
    Comm again, Mike.

  8. pmailkeey said:

    On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 09:44:03 GMT, Trevor Barton
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    🙂Why do you persist in your misunderstanding of the word
    :calibrated?

    Sorry, I'm just using it as defined in a dictionary !

    Sigh. Back again?

    That would be one of: "calibrate": (2) to mark (the scale of
    a measuring instrument) so that readings can be made in
    appropriate units. (3) to determine the accuracy of (a
    measuring instrument, etc.).

    That's verbatim from Collins 2 ed, and I left out 1 and 4
    which were explicitely to do with guns and artillery.

    Where in that dictionary definition does it mention
    certificates, annual calibration, or absolute accuracy? My
    watch is calibrated, because I know it's absolute accuracy.
    It tells me the actual real absolute time in GMT at the
    moment to within an accuracy of plus or minus 5 minutes.
    Within both those definitions, a speedo is calibrated.

    If you're going to quote a dictionary it's generally a good
    idea to actually read one first.

    --
    Trevor Barton

  9. Trevor Barton said:

    If you're going to quote a dictionary it's generally a
    good idea to actually read one first.

    It's all very well him looking up the definition of the word
    'calibrate' but it sounds to me like he also needs to learn
    the definitions of the words 'accurate' and 'precise' and
    realise that there is a difference between the two.

    d.

  10. On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:03:53 +0000, Trevor Barton
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    If you're going to quote a dictionary it's generally a good
    idea to actually read one first.

    I read one once. Very dull.

    --
    Guy
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  11. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I read one once. Very dull.

    Yeah, [censored] plot, but at least the author explained all the
    long words I didn't know (and a few thousand that I did)

    :-)

    \Graeme

  12. Graeme said:

    "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I read one once. Very dull.

    Yeah, [censored] plot, but at least the author explained all the
    long words I didn't know (and a few thousand that I did)

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    Matt K Dunedin, NZ

  13. Just zis Guy said:

    On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:03:53 +0000, Trevor Barton
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    If you're going to quote a dictionary it's generally a
    good idea to actually read one first.

    I read one once. Very dull.

    Oh, I don't know, I knew a bloke who read one on the dunny
    every day. He was extremely erudite in the 6th form. Ended
    up as a psychiatric nurse, though.

    --
    Trevor Barton

    Yes, I did grow up in Australia, and so at that time it
    was a dunny.

  14. Just zis Guy said:

    On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:03:53 +0000, Trevor Barton
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    If you're going to quote a dictionary it's generally a
    good idea to actually read one first.

    I read one once. Very dull.

    I gave up after the first twenty-odd pages. I'm waiting for
    the film version...

    --

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