b) Folks who can "build the wheels properly" can probably keep a cigarette lighter flame on the far side of the rim.
On the other hand, most riders are not smokers (not any more), and so most would not habitually carry a lighter. Fewer still would carry one just to soften the locktite just in case they needed to do field repairs on a wheel. So we still have the scenario of an unfixable wheel out in the middle of nowhere after hitting a pothole or a rock.
The alternative, using oil not locktite, seems to have no such downside, and there should be no need to use the stuff to keep the wheel true under normal wear and tear.
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David L. Johnson
__o | When you are up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember _`\(,_ | that your initial objective was to drain the swamp. -- LBJ (_)/ (_) |
b) Folks who can "build the wheels properly" can probably keep a cigarette lighter flame on the far side of the rim.
On the other hand, most riders are not smokers (not any more), and so most would not habitually carry a lighter. Fewer still would carry one just to soften the locktite just in case they needed to do field repairs on a wheel. So we still have the scenario of an unfixable wheel out in the middle of nowhere after hitting a pothole or a rock.
The alternative, using oil not locktite, seems to have no such downside, and there should be no need to use the stuff to keep the wheel true under normal wear and tear.
Dear David,
As I said, I agree that it all sounds like too much fuss.
But my heart turns to stone when I contemplate the fate of riders who do loctite their wheels and then carry a spoke wrench that they now know cannot be used unless they also carry a cigarette lighter.
They might as well complain that they have a pump, but no spare tube or patch kit.
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:54:38 GMT, [email hidden] may
have said:
I haven't used 1" spoke nipples in a long time but all the ones I used had no more thread in them than short nipples, the long end being a smooth threadless bore.
No functional difference. The depth of thread is the same on short and long nipples.
smokva said:
Are you sure about that? The on-line calculator on DtSwiss site will reduce the length of spokes if I choose longer nipples in applet? I guess it is a bug then.
-- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971[/QUOTE]
It may be an optical illusion, but the longer nipple looks to have a "head" that is thinner (in the dimension along the axis of the spoke) than the shorter nipple. I know that some nipples are different than others in this dimension. If you want accurate ERD data for a particular rim/nipple combination, it is important to use those nipples you will use to build the wheel. The difference is usually small, but varies as much as 2 mm with different nipples and how the nipples "seat" in the spoke hole openings on different rims.
It may be an optical illusion, but the longer nipple looks to have a "head" that is thinner (in the dimension along the axis of the spoke) than the shorter nipple. I know that some nipples are different than others in this dimension. If you want accurate ERD data for a particular rim/nipple combination, it is important to use those nipples you will use to build the wheel. The difference is usually small, but varies as much as 2 mm with different nipples and how the nipples "seat" in the spoke hole openings on different rims.
I think that's just sloppy filing. Hard to hold the little buggers
-- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
In message <[email hidden]>, A Muzi <[email hidden]> writes
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Quoted message said:
A Muzi said:
No functional difference. The depth of thread is the same on short and long nipples.
smokva said:
Are you sure about that? The on-line calculator on DtSwiss site will reduce the length of spokes if I choose longer nipples in applet? I guess it is a bug then.
The 16mm nipples have just over 2mm more thread than the normal 12mm length from the same maker. The unthreaded bore is less than 2mm longer and they weigh about 0.3gm more each.
I have used them with 2 cross lacing on 20" front wheels where the spoke lengths differ inside flange as against outside flange. --
