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  1. I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called
    http://www.biketalks.com/

    When I glanced at some of the postings they seemed strangely familiar.
    In fact, they seem to mostly be rec.bicycles.tech postings that have
    been copied then disguised by random transposition of letters in keywords.

    Anybody got any idea whazzup with this?

    Sheldon "Is Jobst Really 'Tsunami'?" Brown
    +----------------------------------------------+
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    | vapor of invention! --Mel Brooks |
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    Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
    Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
    http://harriscyclery.com
    Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
    http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com

  2. Sheldon Brown said:

    I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called
    http://www.biketalks.com/

    When I glanced at some of the postings they seemed strangely familiar. In
    fact, they seem to mostly be rec.bicycles.tech postings that have been
    copied then disguised by random transposition of letters in keywords.

    Anybody got any idea whazzup with this?

    Sheldon "Is Jobst Really 'Tsunami'?" Brown

    I have no idea, "angelx". 🙂

    --
    Benjamin Lewis

    Now is the time for all good men to come to.
    -- Walt Kelly

  3. Benjamin Lewis said:
    Sheldon Brown said:

    I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called
    http://www.biketalks.com/

    When I glanced at some of the postings they seemed strangely
    familiar. In fact, they seem to mostly be rec.bicycles.tech postings
    that have been copied then disguised by random transposition of letters
    in keywords.

    Anybody got any idea whazzup with this?

    Sheldon "Is Jobst Really 'Tsunami'?" Brown

    I have no idea, "angelx". 🙂

    Heh. I'm "fat free pork"...

    --
    Benjamin Lewis

    Now is the time for all good men to come to.
    -- Walt Kelly

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called
    http://www.biketalks.com/

    When I glanced at some of the postings they seemed strangely familiar.
    In fact, they seem to mostly be rec.bicycles.tech postings that have
    been copied then disguised by random transposition of letters in keywords.

    Anybody got any idea whazzup with this?

    It sure *looks* like someone trying to jump-start their web forums
    through massive copyright infringement. I imagine if you give it
    enough time to be indexed by Google, it will appear to be a large,
    successful set of bike forums.

    Then what? Ads? Spam to those who are fooled into signing up?

    --
    [email hidden] is Joshua Putnam
    <http://www.phred.org/~josh/>
    Updated Bicycle Touring Books List:
    <http://www.phred.org/~josh/bike/tourbooks.html>

  5. Benjamin Lewis <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Sheldon Brown said:

    I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called
    http://www.biketalks.com/

    When I glanced at some of the postings they seemed strangely
    familiar. In fact, they seem to mostly be rec.bicycles.tech postings
    that have been copied then disguised by random transposition of
    letters in keywords.

    Anybody got any idea whazzup with this?

    Sheldon "Is Jobst Really 'Tsunami'?" Brown

    I have no idea, "angelx". 🙂

    Cool. I salhl hecnefotrh be knwon as "1888."

  6. Hank Wirtz said:

    Benjamin Lewis <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Sheldon Brown said:

    I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called
    http://www.biketalks.com/

    When I glanced at some of the postings they seemed strangely
    familiar. In fact, they seem to mostly be rec.bicycles.tech postings
    that have been copied then disguised by random transposition of
    letters in keywords.

    Anybody got any idea whazzup with this?

    Sheldon "Is Jobst Really 'Tsunami'?" Brown

    I have no idea, "angelx". 🙂

    Cool. I salhl hecnefotrh be knwon as "1888."

    And I shall call myself "skelhorne"

    Who *are* these douchebags?
    --
    Live simply so that others may simply live

  7. Quoted message said:

    I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called ....

    Anybody got any idea whazzup with this?

    Suspicious
    If you check the date and time the posts were created, these indicate
    that the posts were created (or perhaps) uploaded through a program.

    Archie A.

  8. In article <[email hidden]>, Neil Brooks

    () said:
    Hank Wirtz said:

    Benjamin Lewis <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Sheldon Brown wrote:

    > I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called
    > http://www.biketalks.com/
    >
    > When I glanced at some of the postings they seemed strangely
    > familiar. In fact, they seem to mostly be rec.bicycles.tech postings
    > that have been copied then disguised by random transposition of
    > letters in keywords.
    >
    > Anybody got any idea whazzup with this?
    >
    > Sheldon "Is Jobst Really 'Tsunami'?" Brown

    I have no idea, "angelx". 🙂

    Cool. I salhl hecnefotrh be knwon as "1888."

    And I shall call myself "skelhorne"

    Who *are* these douchebags?

    They are [email hidden], apparently

    Here, little Spambot...

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    It would appear apparent, to me at least, that dinosaurs were largely
    burrowing creatures.

  9. Sheldon Brown said:

    I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called
    http://www.biketalks.com/

    When I glanced at some of the postings they seemed strangely familiar.
    In fact, they seem to mostly be rec.bicycles.tech postings that have
    been copied then disguised by random transposition of letters in keywords.

    That letter replacement and it's lack of formatting for replies makes it
    *really* hard to read. Here's a good example: "Now load both wehels
    radially, i.e. Therefore by putin each one on a bike." And there's no
    indication which part of each post is quoted, and which part is the reply.

    Can that compete with the real thing? I hope not.

    --
    Dave "EdDx"
    dvt at psu dot edu

  10. Neil Brooks said:
    Hank Wirtz said:

    Benjamin Lewis <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Sheldon Brown wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >Sheldon "Is Jobst Really 'Tsunami'?" Brown

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have no idea, "angelx". 🙂

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Cool. I salhl hecnefotrh be knwon as "1888."

    Quoted message said:

    And I shall call myself "skelhorne"

    Hey, they gave me a pretty cool name: "EdDx." Close enough to Eddy for
    me. Maybe I'm not quite a cannibal, but...

    --
    EdDx "the carnivore"

  11. Dave Larrington said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Neil Brooks
    ([email hidden]) wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Who *are* these douchebags?

    Quoted message said:

    They are [email hidden], apparently

    More info from whois...

    Registrant:
    Michael Mokotov
    Mavo Gilat 7
    TA, Israel 69359
    Israel

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
    Domain Name: BIKETALKS.COM
    Created on: 03-Nov-05
    Expires on: 03-Nov-07
    Last Updated on: 04-Nov-05

    Administrative Contact:
    Mokotov, Michael [email hidden]
    Mavo Gilat 7
    TA, Israel 69359
    Israel
    97236481802
    Technical Contact:
    Mokotov, Michael [email hidden]
    Mavo Gilat 7
    TA, Israel 69359
    Israel
    97236481802

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS1.HDMX.NET
    NS2.HDMX.NET

    Registry Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

  12. "dvt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Sheldon Brown said:

    I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called
    http://www.biketalks.com/

    When I glanced at some of the postings they seemed strangely familiar. In
    fact, they seem to mostly be rec.bicycles.tech postings that have been
    copied then disguised by random transposition of letters in keywords.

    That letter replacement and it's lack of formatting for replies makes it
    *really* hard to read. Here's a good example: "Now load both wehels
    radially, i.e. Therefore by putin each one on a bike." And there's no
    indication which part of each post is quoted, and which part is the reply.

    Can that compete with the real thing? I hope not.

    --
    Dave "EdDx"
    dvt at psu dot edu

    Ahh, I finally figured out Datakoll's method. If you take his posts and put
    them through the same algorythm you come out with perfect grammer!!!

    (BTW, Isay this with love in my heart as I happen to regard Datakoll's
    postings as some of the most interesting here, especially since we chased
    off Dear Karl)

    Dave Reckoning
    Noblesville, Indiana

  13. dvt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dave Larrington said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Neil Brooks
    ([email hidden]) wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Who *are* these douchebags?

    Quoted message said:

    They are [email hidden], apparently

    More info from whois...

    Registrant:
    Michael Mokotov
    Mavo Gilat 7
    TA, Israel 69359
    Israel

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
    Domain Name: BIKETALKS.COM
    Created on: 03-Nov-05
    Expires on: 03-Nov-07
    Last Updated on: 04-Nov-05

    Administrative Contact:
    Mokotov, Michael [email hidden]
    Mavo Gilat 7
    TA, Israel 69359
    Israel
    97236481802
    Technical Contact:
    Mokotov, Michael [email hidden]
    Mavo Gilat 7
    TA, Israel 69359
    Israel
    97236481802

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS1.HDMX.NET
    NS2.HDMX.NET

    Registry Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

    Another little sniff shows the hoster to HDMX.COM
    Perhaps they would do something if we all pettitioned them to stop?

    Tracert www.biketalks.com found the last router as:
    server4you-gw.stl1.us.inetbone.net

    and the endpoint server to be:
    air540.hdmx.net

    Dave

  14. Joshua Putnam said:

    It sure *looks* like someone trying to jump-start their web forums
    through massive copyright infringement.

    Copyright?

    Quoted message said:

    I imagine if you give it
    enough time to be indexed by Google, it will appear to be a large,
    successful set of bike forums.

    Then what? Ads? Spam to those who are fooled into signing up?

    Probably the former. There are easier ways to get spam lists.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | "Business!" cried the Ghost. "Mankind was my business. The
    _`\(,_ | common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance,
    (_)/ (_) | and benevolence, were, all, my business. The dealings of my
    trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my
    business!" --Dickens, "A Christmas Carol"

  15. Dave Reckoning said:

    Another little sniff shows the hoster to HDMX.COM
    Perhaps they would do something if we all pettitioned them to stop?

    Looks like they've been shut down already.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | Enron's slogan: Respect, Communication, Integrity, and
    _`\(,_ | Excellence.
    (_)/ (_) |

  16. David L. Johnson said:
    Dave Reckoning said:

    Another little sniff shows the hoster to HDMX.COM
    Perhaps they would do something if we all pettitioned them to stop?

    Looks like they've been shut down already.

    Wow. That didn't take long.

    Mark

  17. Sheldon Brown said:

    I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called
    http://www.biketalks.com/

    When I glanced at some of the postings they seemed strangely familiar.
    In fact, they seem to mostly be rec.bicycles.tech postings that have
    been copied then disguised by random transposition of letters in keywords.

    Anybody got any idea whazzup with this?

    All I got was this:

    This is the placeholder for domain biketalks.com. If you see this page
    after uploading site content you probably have not replaced the
    index.html file.

    This page has been automatically generated by http://www.hdmx.com .

    But then I accessed it through an obfuscating proxy (tor --
    http://tor.eff.org).

    I wonder if it's just harvesting information from the invitees?

    --

    John "paranoid" ([email hidden])

  18. John Thompson said:
    Quoted message said:

    I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called
    http://www.biketalks.com/

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When I glanced at some of the postings they seemed strangely
    familiar. In fact, they seem to mostly be rec.bicycles.tech
    postings that have been copied then disguised by random
    transposition of letters in keywords.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Anybody got any idea whazzup with this?

    Quoted message said:

    All I got was this:

    Quoted message said:

    This is the placeholder for domain biketalks.com. If you see this
    page after uploading site content you probably have not replaced
    the index.html file.

    Quoted message said:

    This page has been automatically generated by http://www.hdmx.com

    Quoted message said:

    But then I accessed it through an obfuscating proxy (tor --
    http://tor.eff.org).

    Quoted message said:

    I wonder if it's just harvesting information from the invitees?

    I haven't been invited but why were all the misspellings introduced.

    Jobst Brandt

  19. google scholar, world catalog et al., and Nihm do this as does word
    reference
    as with slippppppppppppppppppppppppppperry tires and journeys thru SA
    and Paris
    one gains perspective

  20. Joshua Putnam said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    I received an invitation to join a "new forum" called
    http://www.biketalks.com/

    When I glanced at some of the postings they seemed strangely familiar.
    In fact, they seem to mostly be rec.bicycles.tech postings that have
    been copied then disguised by random transposition of letters in keywords.

    Anybody got any idea whazzup with this?

    It sure *looks* like someone trying to jump-start their web forums
    through massive copyright infringement. I imagine if you give it
    enough time to be indexed by Google, it will appear to be a large,
    successful set of bike forums.

    Just like two or three other bike forums I've found filled with rbt posts
    and numerous forums populated with other newsgroups. They're only
    acknowledged about half the time.

    So, Shrug. Nothing new, and nothing really to be done about them either.

    Jasper

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