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Brent P
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In article <[email protected]>, John S. wrote:
>> I see you think everyone uses google's web interface. This is usenet, not
>> some web forum. Deleting context and then making a response is simply to
>> ignore the previous points, which you did.
> Google is well designed and works great. You need to get a more up to
> date interface. One that allows you to scroll easily between messages
> and keep things in context. It will reduce the chances of your
> becoming confused in the future on simple topics like this.
No, you need to get with the program and stop using excuses for what
amounts to bad form. If you don't have a real reply, don't reply instead
of deleting all quoted material and inserting a propaganda spew.
>> > Yes, as I thought safety has nothing to do with it. It's a civil
>> > rights issue - the right to not wear a helmet, not wear a seat belt,
>> > not put your child in a child seat. The right to wittingly increase
>> > the risk of serious injury when there are obvious and simple ways to
>> > reduce that risk
>> The right not to have you or anyone else playing parent. Control
>> freakism is disease, a cancer. It takes many forms, from the neo-con
>> desire to listen in on everyone's phone calls and open their mail to the
>> socialists that want to control how much bread or gasoline or anything
>> else we can have. But the worst form of control freakism is the
>> 'do-gooder'.
>> I don't agree with *YOUR* judgement of what the risks are and the ways to
>> reduce them. But you and your ilk are always there to empose your
>> judgement on the rest of us. You feel the need to tell us how to live our
>> lives, make decisions for us, micro-manage things for other people. You
>> have no such right sir.
> Oh but you are completely wrong on that point my friend. As a member
> of society I do have a right to make such a judgement as long as that
> judgement is concurred with and implemented by society.
You have no right to impose your judgement on other people. None. There
is liberty where we live our lives with our own judgement, and tyranny where
others impose their their judgement upon us.
It's obvious you don't like others making judgements for you. You
rejected wearing the knee pads to walk on the sidewalk.
> Don't like
> our rules to make a civilized and safer society - just leave.
It's civilized to live by your demands. Yes, control freaks often think
that. In reality what is civilized is liberty. Command and control is
rather primitive. It assumes that the people are animals or at best
children and need the guiding light of the control freaks to have
civilization.
> Or get enough votes to change the rules.
Tyranny of the majority. Sorry buddy, there's this thing called liberty
it is each person's birthright, you do not get to violate it.
> But don't just whine on incessantly
> on some news group about how your rights to do stupid things have been
> abriged by rules most of us consider to be sensible.
Translation: The rules the control freaks come up define sensible and
reasonable, only the control freaks define such things and feel because
most people are too lazy to fight them they have majority approval. In
reality the majority just ignore them.
> **** deleted.
Hits a little too close to home eh?
"Of all tyrannies a tyranny exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber
barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty
may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but
those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for
they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
- C.S. Lewis
>> I see you think everyone uses google's web interface. This is usenet, not
>> some web forum. Deleting context and then making a response is simply to
>> ignore the previous points, which you did.
> Google is well designed and works great. You need to get a more up to
> date interface. One that allows you to scroll easily between messages
> and keep things in context. It will reduce the chances of your
> becoming confused in the future on simple topics like this.
No, you need to get with the program and stop using excuses for what
amounts to bad form. If you don't have a real reply, don't reply instead
of deleting all quoted material and inserting a propaganda spew.
>> > Yes, as I thought safety has nothing to do with it. It's a civil
>> > rights issue - the right to not wear a helmet, not wear a seat belt,
>> > not put your child in a child seat. The right to wittingly increase
>> > the risk of serious injury when there are obvious and simple ways to
>> > reduce that risk
>> The right not to have you or anyone else playing parent. Control
>> freakism is disease, a cancer. It takes many forms, from the neo-con
>> desire to listen in on everyone's phone calls and open their mail to the
>> socialists that want to control how much bread or gasoline or anything
>> else we can have. But the worst form of control freakism is the
>> 'do-gooder'.
>> I don't agree with *YOUR* judgement of what the risks are and the ways to
>> reduce them. But you and your ilk are always there to empose your
>> judgement on the rest of us. You feel the need to tell us how to live our
>> lives, make decisions for us, micro-manage things for other people. You
>> have no such right sir.
> Oh but you are completely wrong on that point my friend. As a member
> of society I do have a right to make such a judgement as long as that
> judgement is concurred with and implemented by society.
You have no right to impose your judgement on other people. None. There
is liberty where we live our lives with our own judgement, and tyranny where
others impose their their judgement upon us.
It's obvious you don't like others making judgements for you. You
rejected wearing the knee pads to walk on the sidewalk.
> Don't like
> our rules to make a civilized and safer society - just leave.
It's civilized to live by your demands. Yes, control freaks often think
that. In reality what is civilized is liberty. Command and control is
rather primitive. It assumes that the people are animals or at best
children and need the guiding light of the control freaks to have
civilization.
> Or get enough votes to change the rules.
Tyranny of the majority. Sorry buddy, there's this thing called liberty
it is each person's birthright, you do not get to violate it.
> But don't just whine on incessantly
> on some news group about how your rights to do stupid things have been
> abriged by rules most of us consider to be sensible.
Translation: The rules the control freaks come up define sensible and
reasonable, only the control freaks define such things and feel because
most people are too lazy to fight them they have majority approval. In
reality the majority just ignore them.
> **** deleted.
Hits a little too close to home eh?
"Of all tyrannies a tyranny exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber
barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty
may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but
those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for
they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
- C.S. Lewis