Tire wear on trikes

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  2. Ian

    Ian Guest

    [email protected] must be edykated coz e writed:

    > Trike front tires obviously wear out quite fast. How many kilos can one expect out of them?
    Depends what you are doing on them, on my Kett Wiesel I get about 2000 miles from the non drive side
    and the front tyre and about 1500 miles from the drive tyre. I ride a mixture of pavement and dirt.

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  3. Ian <[email protected]> wrote:

    : Depends what you are doing on them, on my Kett Wiesel I get about 2000 miles from the non drive
    : side and the front tyre and about 1500 miles from the drive tyre. I ride a mixture of pavement
    : and dirt.

    But it's not a tadpole :eek:) Dunno if that's different though, I hear the problem is that trikes don't
    usually lean, so the tire wears more in one place or something... Which tires do you use? I'd guess
    Stelvios would wear out quite a bit faster.

    Maybe there is some kind of skidding on the tire in turns. Could depend on toe-in, so I guess I
    should adjust mine pretty soon...

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  4. John

    John Guest

    I've got over 2,500 miles on Primo Comet Kevlars (1.50) on my WizWheelz and while the center of the
    tires have obvious wear, no part of the carcass is yet visible.
     
  5. Risto,

    The mileage varies depending on the type of tires, geometric condition of the steering, and the type
    of riding. The biggest fallacy I have heard is that there is one tire can satisfy all types of
    riding. Many say that the Tioga Comp Pools are one of the best all-around tires. They are hearty,
    wide, have low rolling resistance. However, they weigh a ton. Stelevos are the best for high
    performance riding. 1.35" Comets are good for light sport/commuting. 1.5" Comets are good commuting
    tires. Comp pools are good for touring/commuting.

    R. Horwitz http://www.hellbentcycles.com

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    > Trike front tires obviously wear out quite fast. How many kilos can one expect out of them?
    >
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  6. Tom Sherman

    Tom Sherman Guest

    Hellbent Rick wrote:
    >
    > Risto,
    >
    > The mileage varies depending on the type of tires, geometric condition of the steering, and the
    > type of riding. The biggest fallacy I have heard is that there is one tire can satisfy all types
    > of riding. Many say that the Tioga Comp Pools are one of the best all-around tires. They are
    > hearty, wide, have low rolling resistance. However, they weigh a ton. Stelevos are the best for
    > high performance riding. 1.35" Comets are good for light sport/commuting. 1.5" Comets are good
    > commuting tires. Comp pools are good for touring/commuting.

    Maxxis Hookworms are heavy and slow, but great for running over stuff.

    Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side)
     
  7. Ian

    Ian Guest

    [email protected] must be edykated coz e writed:

    > Ian <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > : Depends what you are doing on them, on my Kett Wiesel I get about 2000 miles from the non drive
    > : side and the front tyre and about 1500 miles from the drive tyre. I ride a mixture of pavement
    > : and dirt.
    >
    > But it's not a tadpole :eek:) Dunno if that's different though, I hear the problem is that trikes
    > don't usually lean, so the tire wears more in one place or something... Which tires do you use?
    > I'd guess Stelvios would wear out quite a bit faster.
    >
    > Maybe there is some kind of skidding on the tire in turns. Could depend on toe-in, so I guess I
    > should adjust mine pretty soon...

    Because of the dirt use I have stayed with Continental Touring 2000.

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    http://www.catrike.co.uk
     
  8. [email protected] wrote:
    > Trike front tires obviously wear out quite fast. How many kilos can one expect out of them?

    Anything from about fifty upwards ;-) I have seen a pair of Wolber-Moulton 32-369s completely
    trashed in the course of one race meeting on the front wheels of a Windcheetah.

    Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
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  9. Bikertriker

    Bikertriker Guest

    In agreement with other posters:

    After 80 miles of my riding and some unknown amount of test-riding (by others)with a 1/4" of
    toe-in, I flipped the front tires around (keeping them on the same side). After another 75 miles,
    the tread wear is almost even. Not much experience yet but I would say front tire wear is a real
    drawback for trikes.

    IMO trikes will be much better when specific trike tires are made available with flat treads. Dave
    catrike speed

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    > Trike front tires obviously wear out quite fast. How many kilos can one expect out of them?
     
  10. I've got 4000 miles on my Tioga Comp Pools. They're on a Greenspeed that's ridden mostly on
    rails-to-trails paths (dirt). There are lots of nicks and cuts but the wear dimples look good. I'll
    probably replace them this winter.
     
  11. >IMO trikes will be much better when specific trike tires are made available with flat treads.

    Vredestein is working on them (after being pestered for a few years by some velomobile builders).
     
  12. Russ Price

    Russ Price Guest

    Mark van Gorkom <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>IMO trikes will be much better when specific trike tires are made available with flat treads.
    >
    > Vredestein is working on them (after being pestered for a few years by some velomobile builders).

    Funny thing is, when I was a kid, there were 20" flat-tread slicks available for the Schwinn
    Sting-Rays that were all the rage back then. They were only suitable for the rear wheel. I think
    Goodyear made them.

    Of course, back then, tadpole trikes were either completely non-existent or very close to it.
    --
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    dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." -George W. Bush
     
  13. Mlb

    Mlb Guest

    [email protected] (BikerTriker) wrote in
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    > In agreement with other posters:
    >
    > After 80 miles of my riding and some unknown amount of test-riding (by others)with a 1/4" of
    > toe-in, I flipped the front tires around (keeping them on the same side). After another 75 miles,
    > the tread wear is almost even. Not much experience yet but I would say front tire wear is a real
    > drawback for trikes.
    >
    > IMO trikes will be much better when specific trike tires are made available with flat treads. Dave
    > catrike speed
    >
    > [email protected] wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]>...
    >> Trike front tires obviously wear out quite fast. How many kilos can one expect out of them?
    >

    You need to check your alignment! I put 1,000 miles on a TT with no significant wear patterns (no
    flipping).
     
  14. Mlb

    Mlb Guest

    [email protected] (Chris Campanelli) wrote in
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    > I've got 4000 miles on my Tioga Comp Pools. They're on a Greenspeed that's ridden mostly on
    > rails-to-trails paths (dirt). There are lots of nicks and cuts but the wear dimples look good.
    > I'll probably replace them this winter.

    Pointless to compare tire life results when a slight mis-alignment can wear out a tire in a couple
    hundred miles. I've seen guys post where they've ridden a trike for a year without ever checking the
    alignment............................ I couldn't believe how sensitive my TT 3.3 was to being just a
    little bit off. I always knew when it was getting off because it wouldn't ALWAYS be trying to run
    away from me! (ROLLING on invisible grades) Very noticable mph difference when it's SPOT on. (and
    tire life)
     
  15. Gary Mc

    Gary Mc Guest

    I have about 4000 miles on the Tioga Comp Pools on my Greenspeed GTO. I have bought the replacements
    and will mount them this winter. That said, I am a slow poke that mainly crawls up mountains.

    Gary McCarty, Greenspeed GTO, Salt Lake City

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    > Trike front tires obviously wear out quite fast. How many kilos can one expect out of them?
     
  16. MLB <[email protected]> wrote:

    : Pointless to compare tire life results when a slight mis-alignment can wear out a tire in a couple
    : hundred miles. I've seen guys post where they've ridden a trike for a year without ever checking
    : the alignment............................ I couldn't believe how sensitive my TT 3.3 was to being
    : just a little bit off. I always knew when it was getting off because it wouldn't ALWAYS be trying
    : to run away from me! (ROLLING on invisible grades) Very noticable mph difference when it's SPOT
    : on. (and tire life)

    Any other way to tell your toe-in is badly/well done? Except just trying to look :)

    How much toe-in do you think a tadpole should have? 0 degrees? 1?

    Hmm we'd need lots of FAQs for bents... would make it easier for the new folks... really...

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  17. Mlb

    Mlb Guest

    [email protected] wrote in news:[email protected]:

    > MLB <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >: Pointless to compare tire life results when a slight mis-alignment can wear out a tire in a
    >: couple hundred miles. I've seen guys post where they've ridden a trike for a year without ever
    >: checking the alignment............................ I couldn't believe how sensitive my TT 3.3 was
    >: to being just a little bit off. I always knew when it was getting off because it wouldn't ALWAYS
    >: be trying to run away from me! (ROLLING on invisible grades) Very noticable mph difference when
    >: it's SPOT on. (and tire life)
    >
    > Any other way to tell your toe-in is badly/well done? Except just trying to look :)
    >
    > How much toe-in do you think a tadpole should have? 0 degrees? 1?
    >
    > Hmm we'd need lots of FAQs for bents... would make it easier for the new folks... really...
    >

    The only way to be sure is to take measurements as per your trike instructions. I cut an old wooden
    yardstick to fit between my trikes wheels when the distance is exact. Then all I have to do is
    measure from one wheel to the frame to check that distance, if it is correct and the stick fits
    between the wheels with no excess, then I know it is on. Takes about a minute after you've done it a
    few times.
     
  18. On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:29:03 GMT, [email protected] (Mark van Gorkom) wrote:

    >
    >>IMO trikes will be much better when specific trike tires are made available with flat treads.
    >
    >Vredestein is working on them (after being pestered for a few years by some velomobile builders).

    I've heard some people say that radial tires would be a big improvement. Is this true? And will the
    Vredestein velomobile tire be radial?

    Ken Kobayashi [email protected] http://solarwww.mtk.nao.ac.jp/kobayashi/personal/
     
  19. Ken Kobayashi wrote:

    >>some velomobile builders).
    >
    >I've heard some people say that radial tires would be a big improvement. Is this true? And will the
    >Vredestein velomobile tire be radial?
    >
    I've been told it probably would be.

    Mark van Gorkom
     
  20. Mlb

    Mlb Guest

    [email protected] (Mark van Gorkom) wrote in news:3f47dedd.3137334 @newszilla.xs4all.nl:

    > Ken Kobayashi wrote:
    >
    >>>some velomobile builders).
    >>
    >>I've heard some people say that radial tires would be a big improvement. Is this true? And will
    >>the Vredestein velomobile tire be radial?
    >>
    > I've been told it probably would be.
    >
    > Mark van Gorkom
    >

    I've been told that it's patently silly to think that bicycle tires with their 100lb load (each)
    are in any way similar to a auto tire supporting 1000lbs each and going 3 times as fast. Why
    would a radial construction matter in the least? TREAD doesn't even matter at the loads and
    speeds of biking.
     
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